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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption® Official Tournaments => Topic started by: disciple_drew on February 13, 2011, 11:52:57 AM
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I've been wanting to help put something together for the community again, rather than just something that covers my local playgroup in the State that I live in.
To put together a site dedicated to tournament coverage, casual play, and other reports that can edify the Body of Believers amongst the online community around the United States. I've seen some posts regarding this throughout the forum but lacking the willingness of hosts and players to want to .
When I say this next thing, please don't let it appear as if I'm trying to boast about myself or the playgroup that I'm in. The playgroup that I'm with seems to have a good number of willing players who are talented and enjoy contributing to the community to want to make an example of it in the hopes and intentions that other hosts and players would follow. I also believe that group is doing a good job in promoting Redemption CCG, edifying the local Body of Believers, and providing content for the community of which many players may enjoy.
With that, if I could meet and stay in touch with a number of willing tournament hosts & players, as a group we could perhaps put together something to contribute to the community that I believe many of us would like to have.
Such as a site similar to a blog /newslog (or whatever you want to call it) which players can contribute to with updated tournament results, casual games, and other things of the sort. Perhaps call it Redemption CCG News, or Redemption Post, etc. What are your thoughts?
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I'm in.
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I'm in.
Ok, I'm glad to hear that but if it was meant to be for the entire united states I would hope more people would want to contribute.
I do appreciate your willing heart though. :thumbup:
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SomeKittens, what would you think would be a good name for lets say a site that would contain all this?
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It's only been posted for half an hour, and Sundays are usually slow here.
Name-wise, I like the idea of something a little more modern, say "The R".
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I'm in man.
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Name-wise, I like the idea of something a little more modern, say "The R".
How about "The M"?
I'm in. ;D
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Name-wise, I like the idea of something a little more modern, say "The R".
How about "The M"?
I'm in. ;D
lol what's with this? Is everyone going to want a letter of the alphabet? What's wrong with Redemption CCG News, or Redemption Post, Soul Saver or something along those lines?
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The M is just playing around. Drew, you know I'm with you. I like The Redemption Post. The Kingdom Column?
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I like Kingdom Column.
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You mean something like this?
http://www.redemptionnexus.com/ (http://www.redemptionnexus.com/)
:)
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No, not really. Something more interactive. I was thinking something that had an ongoing blog, log, whatever you want to call it where more than one person can contribute to.
Have a section where players can creative profiles to be members so players can interact with each other on the site, like an IM feature, perhaps even a podcast. So people have 1 location with content from all around the US.
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A lot of your descriptions and ideas overlap a lot of what this message board does. And whatever is not included can easily be started on the tournaments page or decks list page, etc. In fact, in my opinion, most of your idea can be incorporated here. Either that or I just don't understand your vision of what the website is suppose to look like or do.
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Yes, the message board does cover some of this but not in a way that I'm thinking of and trying to express to people. There are other CCGs games out there that have coverage from their tournaments. You say this forum has this, yet I rarely see many tournament hosts posting the results of tournaments let alone pictures, videos, and so on of the actual players. If anything, it's just text - not so exciting. Some hosts do but not to be able to get an idea of what’s going on around the united states.
There are profiles here yes, and something similar to an IM feature but not like face book, I'm thinking something similar to that just a bit more interactive, with better graphics so it can be appealing & artistic. Here is another thing, a pod cast... that is not on here and a gallery of photos or videos of events that's easy to access isn't here to.
It's meant as a common ground where tournament hosts should regularly visit to post the results or upload videos & pictures so it edifies the body as well as creates excitement, recognition, and so on.
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Personally, I'd like to recommend that hosts encourage their players to take pictures (if the host doesn't really want to). It sounds like one side of Drew's idea would be so that players (and hosts) can submit pictures, photos, etc to be included in a weekly/monthly newsletter/blog deal. I agree, some of this could be incorporated into the forum, but who (Besides Drew and Jon) on here would be willing/have the time to keep up with it and make it happen? It's not very easy to incorporate graphics/video/photos in an artistic manner on an SMF forum (I used to own one myself). I'm sure Drew would graciously incorporate another link (if he hasn't already) to the local webzine he does for us.
We're talking more of a multi-media friendly site where there are more "permanent" stories available with quick-links to various parts of the site. Some people don't have the gift of writing, so often times, important/funny/educational articles may not make it onto these forums (Or make the desired impression) because the author either doesn't write it or can't accurately convey the story... They could send the facts, opinions, message of their story to someone like Drew to put on this "site" so that their story can be "heard" and generate interest. Just like a newspaper minus the bias (hopefully ;) ).
Anyway, that's my take on it. I'd say I'm a good writer too, but I don't have any sea stories to write, yet ;) .
"take in the fair winds gentlemen, the seas shan't be this calm forever"
yo ho, yo ho, a puddle pirates life for me
-C_S
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The ideas sound great. I,for one,would like to see something like that.
Sadness
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Hi sniper,
The vision of what I'd like to put together isn't something to incorporate into the webzine we already have. It's more so meant to share what's going on in the redemption world within the USA/Canada (if hosts are willing to submit data) to a centralized location. A website that's cool, interactive, fun, brings excitement to the online community, promotes the game, edifies the body, etc. Something I think many would enjoy.
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Ok, here so people have an idea of what I'm talking about...
http://www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com/ (http://www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com/)
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Hi sniper,
The vision of what I'd like to put together isn't something to incorporate into the webzine we already have. It's more so meant to share what's going on in the redemption world within the USA/Canada (if hosts are willing to submit data) to a centralized location. A website that's cool, interactive, fun, brings excitement to the online community, promotes the game, edifies the body, etc. Something I think many would enjoy.
Drew...
Lol its josh from your playgroup... unless u knew that, but I kinda wasn't sure the way u addressed me haha.
I didn't mean incorporate it, but rather the redeemer seemed like a good example.
Anyway, there's a poop deck to be swabbed and I'm to hit the rack.
-C_S
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Ok, here so people have an idea of what I'm talking about...
http://www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com/ (http://www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com/)
So, what do I do?
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Hi sniper,
The vision of what I'd like to put together isn't something to incorporate into the webzine we already have. It's more so meant to share what's going on in the redemption world within the USA/Canada (if hosts are willing to submit data) to a centralized location. A website that's cool, interactive, fun, brings excitement to the online community, promotes the game, edifies the body, etc. Something I think many would enjoy.
Drew...
Lol its josh from your playgroup... unless u knew that, but I kinda wasn't sure the way u addressed me haha.
I didn't mean incorporate it, but rather the redeemer seemed like a good example.
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Anyway, there's a poop deck to be swabbed and I'm to hit the rack.
-C_S
Yes, I know it's you! I didn't know if I should reveal your secret identity! After all you're COUNTER_SNIPER! Super secret, cobra commander, GI jabroni, spec op/black eyed ops, 007, can't do math - sniper!
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Oh yeah, The Redeemer is exclusive to the South Florida playgroup. I don't want to incorporate that for everyone else. It would just seem like I'd be trying to promote our playgroup rather than help others spread what's going on with theirs that's why I wanted a different name.
Somekittens, it would be a good idea to register as a member - because only members can do posts. Then, whenever you have results from casual games with friends or tournaments, you can either go to "The column" (which is the blog to do a text update) or you can visit the podcast link. If you have a device that can record your voice into MP3 format, it can be uploaded onto the podcast this why you can just speak your mind and talk from experience & memory rather than typing it all up. If you go to the blog you can click "new entry", then select which category you'd like the entry to appear such as "tournament news, newsdesk, casual games, etc'. So when you're done, your entry appears in that location.
If you have videos or pictures you'd like to contribute, visit the proper link, and upload & name the group of photos or videos. The videos can be selected via youtube and other methods.
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Ok, here so people have an idea of what I'm talking about...
http://www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com/ (http://www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com/)
So, what do I do?
Somekittens; go to the podcast I just uploaded a sample clip of a report of casual gaming we had during this past saturday so you can have an idea of what to talk about if you want to share anything.
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We could call it Redemption Nexus, since it would be a central hub for news and information.
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Well, that's already taken and besides that; that site isn't rich with information on it. I've registered to it and tried to contact somebody on it and never heard back.
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Well, that's already taken and besides that; that site isn't rich with information on it. I've registered to it and tried to contact somebody on it and never heard back.
At least I know it's about Redemption. I wasn't sure if your website was about Monarchy or Theology. Apparently it's about a card game.
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Well, that's already taken and besides that; that site isn't rich with information on it. I've registered to it and tried to contact somebody on it and never heard back.
At least I know it's about Redemption. I wasn't sure if your website was about Monarchy or Theology. Apparently it's about a card game.
Well, read the very first post of this thread you'd get the idea. The title is redemption ccg news. I'm basically trying to put something together for everyone. as some sort of tool where hosts & players can posts recent tournament results, casual games, or other stories. But mainly casual play, tournament play, deck techs, strategies, and so on. It's not meant for off topic type of things.
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I've read the entire thread, and it makes me cringe as a Marketing major that you chose the name Kingdom Column because Kingdom Column does not brand your goals as a title. The goal of a title should be to brand your website or connect it to something that will allow readers to readily know what the site is about. It is for this reason simplistic titles such as Redemption CA are effective - it's about Redemption in the context of CA, and we know that right away. The Kingdom Column is a vague and complex term that could be any number of things. Redemption CCG is certainly not what I would think when I heard The Kingdom Column.
Also, I will reiterate what others said and say you are pretty much just trying to create what the boards currently are with the addition of tournament coverage.
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If God calls you to something He'll equip you. Your gift can take you where your character can't keep you. I'm not trying to brand anything, I'm not trying to make any gain of it. It's for the community and as long as it serves it's purpose and blesses others - so be it.
If I wanted your advice I would of asked for it. Either you see the good in it or not. If not, don't contribute. Myself along with others would like more than what the message board offers. When you see people with a willing heart to do more, especially for others and not a selfish cause, it would be for the good of the cause to encourage those that are doing it rather than talk smack and tear others down.
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If God calls you to something He'll equip you. Your gift can take you where your character can't keep you. I'm not trying to brand anything, I'm not trying to make any gain of it. It's for the community and as long as it serves it's purpose and blesses others - so be it.
If I wanted your advice I would of asked for it. Either you see the good in it or not. If not, don't contribute. Myself along with others would like more than what the message board offers. When you see people with a willing heart to do more, especially for others and not a selfish cause, it would be for the good of the cause to encourage those that are doing it rather than talk smack and tear others down.
I didn't tear you down, I told you your site name was not very well chosen. If that's tearing you down and my intentions were malicious, I probably wouldn't have explained why.
The fact is you do want to brand something whether you admit it or not. You want your site to be synonmous with Redemption Tournaments, News, and other things concerning Redemption. That's called branding. You want to brand your site as a top notch Redemption resource.
You do want my advice. That's the entire point of this thread. You could have just started the site if you didn't want my advice. But this thread is online, so I will offer my advice and call out when I see mistakes being made. If you don't want that, delete the thread.
I also have no idea where the gifts thing came from. I never talked about any of that, so if you want to expound more, go for it. I don't see the point of your tangent on gifts.
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And yet, I find that being nice is much better than "You're wrong because..."
Alex, you used far too much sarcasm to claim that you weren't tearing down anything. If you want to help, that's great, and it would be nice to have a marketing major on the team. If you'd rather criticize the site, that's your right. However, it's not very Christ-like.
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I'd like to mention that "Kingdom Columns" was one of the few names mentioned as a possibility. There weren't any arguments at first, and plus, names can be changed because this is still the forming stage.
Also, Redemption (referencing the game) is trademarked, copyrighted, etc... Drew can't call it "Redemption x" because he hasn't been given that permission by Cactus.
In reference to the whole "Marketing" situation: this is not-for-profit and fan-based. If Cactus/the Elders/Rob decide to give their blessing on making it "official," then I could see a marketing angle. Right now, as it stands, it's a fan-based tournament coverage idea, not a marketing strategy.
I like the idea, but, I can certainly understand resistance to "Advertisement a.k.a. marketing" it on the official forums once it becomes a true reality. Right now, Drew is offering to make it happen if the players want it. Personally, I'd love to hear stories from other states.
What I'd really like to see is: professional, non-sarcastic, positive, constructive criticism of the idea. Emphasis on professional.
What say you Kemosabe?
-C_S
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Coming report on Maxwell taking the NY District! Some people online like to judge him and bring him down as if his competition wasn't any good or he's "really" good as if their sarcasim was bent on Max being a new player. Either way I still appreciate his victory regardless of how bad or good he is or his competition. It's still an accomplishment for him and the best thing we can do that's Christ-like is encourage him & uplift him for future success. That's ReyZen's area up in the Northeast and I know Rey is excited about what's going on out there. I look forward to help others share their stories with the online community. That's the thing, there seems to be a gap with what's going on cross country. Perhaps not in the Northeast or Midwest where so many small states are neighbors but I'm sure there are others that feel the same way.
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I'd like to mention that "Kingdom Columns" was one of the few names mentioned as a possibility. There weren't any arguments at first, and plus, names can be changed because this is still the forming stage.
Also, Redemption (referencing the game) is trademarked, copyrighted, etc... Drew can't call it "Redemption x" because he hasn't been given that permission by Cactus.
In reference to the whole "Marketing" situation: this is not-for-profit and fan-based. If Cactus/the Elders/Rob decide to give their blessing on making it "official," then I could see a marketing angle. Right now, as it stands, it's a fan-based tournament coverage idea, not a marketing strategy.
I like the idea, but, I can certainly understand resistance to "Advertisement a.k.a. marketing" it on the official forums once it becomes a true reality. Right now, Drew is offering to make it happen if the players want it. Personally, I'd love to hear stories from other states.
What I'd really like to see is: professional, non-sarcastic, positive, constructive criticism of the idea. Emphasis on professional.
What say you Kemosabe?
-C_S
On a side note, I think I'm going to stick with The Kingdom Column for now. I liked the name, seemed cool, seemed like it edifies God's Kingdom, and shouldn't compete with Cactu's trademark either. Also If i needed to trademark or copyright it I do know where and how to get that done if needed but it's intended to be fan-based and nor was I presenting it as something elite, top notch, or better than any body else's site just something I believe a lot of players would enjoy. Although the site can still be deleted at the click of a button I'd really would not like to. It would take a lot of time to move all that content to another site.
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Redemption isn't copyrighted. Add CCG or TCG to the end, and it is.
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Well, that's already taken and besides that; that site isn't rich with information on it. I've registered to it and tried to contact somebody on it and never heard back.
I know it's taken, and I know it's rich with information. That's my point.
The site is mine (did you miss my sig?) and it's been in place for four years. It was intended to be a place where people could register and post news, tournament information, post pictures, and I was in the process of building a wiki in addition to that, as well as tying in the strategy blog Holder's Heroes.
Of all the functions built into the site, the only one anyone ever contributed to - save one gallery from the Wolfe family - was articles for the blog, and those dried up two years ago. I moved the tournament calendar here and made it a central part of the forums and people still don't use it; half the tournament hosts don't seem to even realize they can add the tournaments themselves, even though I've been saying it for years. Another effort was made to create a Redemption wiki and that fell apart as well for the same reason, lack of user contribution.
I'm just letting you know what you can probably expect from a small and nominally-connected community when it comes to aggregate content.
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I'm all up for something like this, but I'm not going to be able to spend much time on it during school. Maybe over the summer I will actually have the time to contribute to things like this and the Redemption Wiki, but as of now I'm just not sure how much I will be able to help. It's a matter of simply not having the man hours right now...
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I'm just letting you know what you can probably expect from a small and nominally-connected community when it comes to aggregate content.
I agree that it seems to be the pattern here that group projects don't end up working out very well (ie. remember that book that was being written here on the forum a couple years ago), and for projects to actually go somewhere there has to be either a single member who spearheads it (ie. SoulSeeker's trading ref system, Guardian's REG corrections system) or a very small team (ie. Prof A and Polarius who are currently running ROOT).
However, what I can't explain based on this is how Wikipedia has become such a success.
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People in general tend to work together better than nerds. Just Saiyan.
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Wikipedia is also one of the largest sites. That gives them an edge in two ways:
1.) More volunteers try it, and therefore more stay.
2.) People are motivated by making a difference. Giving information to millions of people is more enticing than giving information to dozens.
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However, what I can't explain based on this is how Wikipedia has become such a success.
Redemption has a few thousand players. Wikipedia has the whole planet.
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1) I liked the sample I saw,very infomative
2) Let him call it what he likes,that is one of the joys God gave us, the power of change!
3) When was the last time we took a census on the number of players we've got?
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I didn't know your site had all those features. I started playing over a year ago that's perhaps why I missed what you were telling people for years. But over the past year plus we've had a huge impact in our local area. We're experiencing a lot of growth right now as well. Anyways, the site isn't just supposed to be like wiki. It's supposed to contain tournament results, tournament updates, casual game reports, and other news. More so for reporting tournament coverage. I would be worried about lack of participation on the be half of other players and hosts. I'd just like to put something together that's fun to visit, chat on, watch videos, post pictures, and other features. Oh including a podcast.
Concerning the nerd comment, it is meant for people to work together that's why I want to inform others and see if they'd like to help. I would plan on personally contacting many hosts over the weekend so they get the idea of what I'd like to put together. Oh by the way, I'm far from fitting the description as nerd, I don't even wear glasses and don't need to ;)
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Very valid points on all sides are being made.
I'd just like to add that Drew isn't really asking for much, just results of games. Kind of like the thread where everyone who participates in an RTS match writes the results in order to get credit... just adding a little more information to make it "newsy." I.e. such and such achieved a victory over such and such with "x" deck. Both players have had a bit of a rivalry for the past "x" months...
Something like that.
And the beauty of it is that it doesn't require a whole lot on the individual's part because Drew has a way with words when it comes to this thing. He adds a ton of excitement to our local "columns" and game stories, so he can expound more on the information given. (Although I would say that we joke/"trash" talk a lot during our matches, so we tend to come up with "names" for each other... info like that could help Drew immensely)
"Silly non-rate, your not hitting anything because your gun's loaded with blanks"
-C_S
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I'm just sayin'. I can't get tournament hosts to even post their tournament dates on the calendar to let people know when they are. And it's RIGHT HERE ON THE BOARD.
I'm all for the effort, I just want him to know going in what similar "efforts" have produced in the very recent past.
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As a tournament host, I don't add my tournaments because everyone already knows about it.
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I'm just sayin'. I can't get tournament hosts to even post their tournament dates on the calendar to let people know when they are. And it's RIGHT HERE ON THE BOARD.
I'm all for the effort, I just want him to know going in what similar "efforts" have produced in the very recent past.
Roger that. Thank you very much for the warning, as it can prevent disappointed feelings if it doesn't work out. We'll see what happens.
"The boat's supposed to ride on top of the water, not under it"
-C_S
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I.e. such and such achieved a victory over such and such with "x" deck. Both players have had a bit of a rivalry for the past "x" months...
Personally, I would be a little bit irritated if someone would rat out my deck for all to see.
For example, let's say by some hypothetical chance that I win SomeKitten's March tournament. SomeKittens has already mentioned that they are on board with this idea. I would be irritated if my deck (tested at a district to see its possibility for winning at States) was broadcasted prior to States happening. Somekittens could easily do it too without my knowledge (not saying he would..I'm talking about the possibilities).
I know that the above has already been discussed, and I'm not trying to rehash that discussion. However, your quote above mentioned the revealing of someone's deck, I feel it starts giving people unfair advantages. I don't like someone having an advantage over me. Especially when I travel to multiple State and Regional tournaments.
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As a tournament host, I don't add my tournaments because everyone already knows about it.
I don't.
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As a tournament host, I don't add my tournaments because everyone already knows about it.
I don't.
Schaef, it would be awesome for you to come up here and play against me again in tournaments. I totally wouldn't rat out your unique decks! ;)
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I'm not sure about a brand new site, but I think Redemption needs some more publicity. I still think "big" games should be recorded so that others can watch them. One of the coolest things of a game I used to play was the ability to actually watch top players play. Even if you're a top player, you would probably watch other top players and try to sharpen your skills. Text is fine, but videos of real games are tough to beat.
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As a tournament host, I don't add my tournaments because everyone already knows about it.
I don't.
Is there any possibility you'll show up? If you do, I will post every tournament I host on the boards calendar.
SoulSeeker, I'm assembling a media team like Drew's, but they're under orders not to reveal anyone's decks without permission.
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I.e. such and such achieved a victory over such and such with "x" deck. Both players have had a bit of a rivalry for the past "x" months...
Personally, I would be a little bit irritated if someone would rat out my deck for all to see.
your quote above mentioned the revealing of someone's deck, I feel it starts giving people unfair advantages.
Um, you're going to have to define you're thoughts of "revealing" to me. I see that my example might have been vague, perhaps. Most people seem to name their decks, that is what I meant by "x." I would agree, revealing key components/combinations/cards of tournament-grade decks can be quite damaging. Hence, why I rarely discuss mine (Although everyone in my playgroup knows what my decks contain by the third game) for publishing. Drew loves to ask permission to interview me (Get my playing style, strategy, etc...) but I typically decline. Why? Well, there's a very good reason, but it's not for the reason mentioned above.
Deck techs must be requested and permission given (i.e. Drew doesn't write about your deck unless YOU reveal the information to him yourself).
Personally, I find it fun that someone might know what's in my deck (By playing me of course) and what may be coming up, but they don't know how it's going to happen. That's me though. Helps me think critically because I have to think further in advance on how/when to play certain cards when they are least expected or in a way that can rarely be stopped. (Kind of like an Illusionist).
Woah, sorry to go off on a sea story there... back to topic.
Your point is very, very valid, but I assure you, unless you specify it, all that may be needed is a name. Although newer players might enjoy hearing about types of offense/defense in casual, non-tournament grade decks.
It's up to the individual though.
Nice input. (Wow, I'm commenting more than Drew is... almost like I'm talking FOR him (Which I'm not, am I? >.<) <<- I need to work on that :/
"Loose lips sink ships; but so do icebergs (Not since the Titanic in 1912), bad navigating, and flying bullet-shaped sharks"
-C_S
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Is there any possibility you'll show up? If you do, I will post every tournament I host on the boards calendar.
I don't know. I don't know when or where they are held. That's the point. You know whether all the people you know will attend your tournaments, but what happens when Johnny Noobinstein moves into your neighborhood and wants to know if there are any tournaments in his area? The event calendar seems like a reasonable place to look, but when he doesn't find any there, he will grow despondent and give up Redemption and turn to a life of drugs and crime. And kick a dog.
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Is there any possibility you'll show up? If you do, I will post every tournament I host on the boards calendar.
I don't know. I don't know when or where they are held. That's the point. You know whether all the people you know will attend your tournaments, but what happens when Johnny Noobinstein moves into your neighborhood and wants to know if there are any tournaments in his area? The event calendar seems like a reasonable place to look, but when he doesn't find any there, he will grow despondent and give up Redemption and turn to a life of drugs and crime. And kick a dog.
I like this Johnny guy. I kick puppies though, is that bad? Poor kid. You think we can find him and rehabilitate him by sending him to prison?
"You can only go so far, for, the earth is round and eventually you'll wind up back where you started"
-C_S
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KingArv, who lives literally down the street, didn't seem to have much trouble.
Roberts Weslyan
2301 Westside Dr.
Rochester, NY
14624
March 5th, 10AM-end.
And I'll add it to the calendar.
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I don't like someone having an advantage over me. Especially when I travel to multiple State and Regional tournaments.
I don't have a problem with sharing someones deck once it's been played in an official tournament. The deck owner gets the advantage of a tournament proven deck, and the rest of the world gets an advantage of having a clue what might be coming. There are a lot of people who can't travel to "multiple State and Regional tournaments". Does that give you an unfair advantage?
I figure it all balances out. Some people can go to more tournaments, which is an advantage (although not an unfair one considering everyone is allowed to). But those people are also more likely to get their decks exposed, which is a disadvantage (although not an unfair one because official tournaments are public).
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It's not like someone's gonna tech VS your deck seeing as decks are picked pre match. I wouldn't mind my deck being posted off the boards.
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Well, it's different in SoulSeeker's case. I think it's safe to say that either he or I will win in this upcoming tournament. If either of our decks gets out, the other could tweak theirs slightly to preform better against the other's, which is an unfair advantage.
Say, I find out that he's playing Prophets, a Naz splash isn't too hard. Or if he finds out I'm doing NT Female, all he has to do is add the "You're a Computer Science major" card, and they'll all leave.
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I recently discovered that I could update the calendar with tournaments I host, thanks to YourMathTeacher. BTW, for those who believe they shouldn't have to update the calendar simply because 'their' group already knows should still update it for the sake of the doubt. Someone new moves in town. I last weekend looked on the calendar and discovered a tournament in the NE and clicked on the link to encourage the people on the play group's thread and hoping to see if maybe someone would share any tourney coverage. Nothing specific, but generally speaking.
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I.e. such and such achieved a victory over such and such with "x" deck. Both players have had a bit of a rivalry for the past "x" months...
Personally, I would be a little bit irritated if someone would rat out my deck for all to see.
For example, let's say by some hypothetical chance that I win SomeKitten's March tournament. SomeKittens has already mentioned that they are on board with this idea. I would be irritated if my deck (tested at a district to see its possibility for winning at States) was broadcasted prior to States happening. Somekittens could easily do it too without my knowledge (not saying he would..I'm talking about the possibilities).
I know that the above has already been discussed, and I'm not trying to rehash that discussion. However, your quote above mentioned the revealing of someone's deck, I feel it starts giving people unfair advantages. I don't like someone having an advantage over me. Especially when I travel to multiple State and Regional tournaments.
Here’s the beauty of it my friend. I’ve designed the site where members only can make posts (that means someone would have to register). So it’s up to the person to post what they want to post. I don’t go around trying to sneak people’s deck out to the public. Ask all of my fellow playgroup members, I ALWAYS ask them before I do anything with it. I ask for their permission. Here is an example. Last year at the FL States in 2010 I personally interviewed Joshua Kopp from Orlando, FL. He is not even in our playgroup although he still lives in the same State. I also asked him if he was open to me posting his deck list online in our webzine because it’s meant to cover FL State tournaments. He agreed to all of it. Here’s the thing, a week later is when he emailed me the deck list to put into the webzine. You’re all welcome to view the webzine issue to view it. However with this, we’re just applying that to this site.
Don’t misunderstand the intentions with this. The whole point of this site isn’t to give you a bad name, it’s to edify the Body of Christ. That’s just about all the Believers that play the game. It’s meant to brag on God and His goodness on how He’s helped you, me, your friends play, win, and so on. If you’re worried because someone get’s a look at your deck, you’re looking at it all wrong. The site sharing something like that is supposed to saying ‘hey, look at our beloved brother here who won so and such tournament. This is what he/she did, this is what he used.” and Praise God for it!
Plus, it’s mean to leave a legacy and example for the future generations of players. Some of us aren’t exactly the best age to continue playing for ages to come, especially those that have families. Sharing your winning moments and the gifts & talents God blessed you with for His Glory was meant as a token to uplift, edify, and encourage others to follow those leaders in their foot steps. If we’re selfish and focusing on ourselves you’re missing the whole point.
If you don’t want to share - then don’t. I’m looking for those that want to make a difference, an impact, to do the right thing, for the right reason. I believe this is one of those right things to do, not for ourselves, for the people out there. Uncounted Believers and unsaved people may and very well could be impacted by this. No one knows how much one simple message or testimony could lead someone to their salvation and if it’s something as curial as that then it should be for that very reason to make that available because we’re putting on a servant’s heart and serving our Lord Jesus Christ and serving our brothers in the Lord in doing so.
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Example of interview with Joshua Kopp from Orlando, FL.
Interview with Joshua Kopp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCmtGcI2C-s#ws)
And if you want more examples of interviews check the two most recent ones on here:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/south-fl-redemption/id373232069 (http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/south-fl-redemption/id373232069)
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Well, it's different in SoulSeeker's case. I think it's safe to say that either he or I will win in this upcoming tournament. If either of our decks gets out, the other could tweak theirs slightly to preform better against the other's, which is an unfair advantage.
Say, I find out that he's playing Prophets, a Naz splash isn't too hard. Or if he finds out I'm doing NT Female, all he has to do is add the "You're a Computer Science major" card, and they'll all leave.
Oh yeah, Drew DEFINITELY does not do that! We're talking after-tourney decks that new players can look at that are tournament-grade, but not being actively used. But it's all volunteer. If you aren't the owner of the deck, Drew's not going to post it (Unless it's one that can no longer be played ;) due to errata etc...).
"Legends live on only if someone continues to tell the story"
-C_S
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Amen to that