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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption® Official Tournaments => Topic started by: Prof Underwood on August 03, 2009, 10:28:12 AM
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My guess is that ignoring what events they would have to compete with at tournaments, the support for events currently would be in this order:
T1-2p
Booster
TEAMS
T2-2p
Sealed Deck
T1-mp
T2-mp
Does everyone agree that this is a fair analysis?
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Hm. How can you properly analyze this without ignoring the events they have to compete with?
~Marti
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You also have to look at level of expertise...most players wont jump straight into T2, but I would rather play t2 multi over t1 multi any day of the week, yes I too am one of those who went to the dark side, but they had cookies! :P
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+1
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I think this list is inaccurate because popularity must be gauged by what they play against, throw TEAMS up against Booster Draft and I bet it will be as "unpopular" as T1 MP. I think the fact is Booster draft dwarfs any other type of play, no matter what it is.
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T1-2P Rulez!
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I think this list is inaccurate because popularity must be gauged by what they play against
The whole idea of this list is to gauge the popularity of the events individually. Then we could discuss how they should best match up with each other at tournaments.
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T1-2p
Booster
TEAMS
T2-2p
Sealed Deck
T1-mp
T2-mp
I disagree with this. T1 2 player is by far the most popular due to obvious reasons. Then it goes booster draft, no argument there. After this comes type 2 2 player. Teams is not as popular and here is why. 1-do you count by number of players or number of teams? 2- Some teammates are asked to play by someone else who would normally not play. 3- it is not used at tournaments, (yet) so it is hard to judge this category. Then I think it goes type 1 and 2 multi together with sealed right behind.
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Sealed in the least popular IMO.
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Sealed in the least popular IMO.
I would have also thought Sealed to be less popular, but the last two Nats have shown that Sealed and T2-2p are both about equally popular due to being head-to-head and having equal participants. Of course it is possible that actually Sealed is less popular, but people played it simply because they didn't have enough cards for a T2 deck and therefore didn't really have a choice.
And as for TEAMS, I would count the number of players (about 50). However, you could even count the number of TEAMS (about 25) and you get as many as participated in T2-2p this year. I really think TEAMS is more popular than T2-2p.
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I disagree. I would have preferred playing not Sealed the last few years, but I didn't have the resources to compete in a T2 setting, so I had too. I think many are like me.
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However, you could even count the number of TEAMS (about 25) and you get as many as participated in T2-2p this year. I really think TEAMS is more popular than T2-2p.
Remeber we were in California. The type 2 there is not as big as other previous nationals.
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However, you could even count the number of TEAMS (about 25) and you get as many as participated in T2-2p this year. I really think TEAMS is more popular than T2-2p.
Remeber we were in California. The type 2 there is not as big as other previous nationals.
If I remember right, there was approximately the same number of people playing Sealed and T2-2p at last years Nationals as well. However, that includes people like Alex who would have rather played something else if there was another choice.
And if I remember right there were more people playing TEAMS last year than played T2-2p as well. So it's not just a California thing.
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I was about to post then realized you meant that the numbers of Sealed to t2-2p were similar which is true, not that last years were the same as this years...And I don't recall 50 players for the teams event, I thought it was 30...but i was too busy being nervous to count :P
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I'd switch T1 MP with Sealed and you're pretty close.
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Sealed is "popular" because its a way more level playing field than T2 2P. T2 2P and T1 2P are typically paired against each other for locals, districts and often states and regionals. Ergo, most people (because T1 2P is the most popular) end up playing T1 2P throughout the tournament season. Since these people haven't been playing T2 at all and have not been tweaking and perfecting a deck, they know they don't have a very realistic shot at placing at Nationals. There are simply too many heavyweights with very refined decks in T2 2P so Sealed is obviously going to be more attractive since anyone can get a great pull of cards and do well in Sealed.
I don't think Sealed is more popular than any of the other current categories, as well as TEAMS. Most people who play it do so simply for the fact they feel they would do better in it than in the alternative category.
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And I don't recall 50 players for the teams event
Actually there were about 50 players last year in the TEAMS event, but I can understand why you may have been a bit too distracted to notice :)
I'd switch T1 MP with Sealed and you're pretty close.
That's a tough one. I would guess that T1-mp would be more popular than Sealed, but since it has always been up against Booster there is really no way to prove that.
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Hey,
I would rank them:
T1-2p
Booster
T2-2p
TEAMS
T2-mp
T1-mp
Sealed Deck
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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+1
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Hey,
I would rank them:
T1-2p
Booster
T2-2p
TEAMS
T2-mp
T1-mp
Sealed Deck
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
+1
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I don't think Sealed is more popular than any of the other current categories, as well as TEAMS. Most people who play it do so simply for the fact they feel they would do better in it than in the alternative category.
I guess I'm one of the very few who play Sealed because I enjoy it more. :-\
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I also agree with Tim's list. Though Booster is by far my favorite event, and I don't like Type-1 2 player. :P
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I think Rob's rule update #4 is of interest to all here:
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=17095.0 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=17095.0)
I think this is cool.
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I would go with
type 1 2p
Type 2 2p
Teams
Booster Draft
Sealed Deck
Type 1 multi
Type 2 multi
JOHN
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Is that John M.???
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Is that John M.???
Only if you can correctly spell and pronounce his last name.
I would go with
type 1 2p
Type 2 2p
Teams
Booster Draft
Sealed Deck
Type 1 multi
Type 2 multi
JOHN
+1 But, maybe its a regional thing
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Is that John M.???
Only if you can correctly spell and pronounce his last name.
I usually just press my whole hand against the keyboard to spell his last name. I pronounce his name "John" when I see him in person.
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Is that John M.???
Only if you can correctly spell and pronounce his last name.
I usually just press my whole hand against the keyboard to spell his last name. I pronounce his name "John" when I see him in person.
I tent to mash my face against my keyboard, but both strategies are effective. First names make everything easier.
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First names make everything easier.
Redemption has its issues with just first names, particularly Tim and Ben.
When it comes to Tims, I know I don't mean myself, but to not get confused with nobody, I have to mash the keyboard for a certain one.
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Redemption has its issues with just first names, particularly Tim and Ben.
+1 :rollin:
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I prefer:
T1 Multiplayer
T2 Multiplayer
Sealed Deck
T1 -2 Player
T2 2 Player
Booster
-Haven't played Teams yet so I don't know where I would put it. Would be hard to host at some locals and districts because you need 4 people that want to play.
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One nice thing about the new ability to choose what events are at a tournament means that hopefully we'll be able to see for sure what the relative popularities are. Hopefully we'll get to see some actual numbers after Christmas :)
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I enjoy:
Type I 2-player
Type II 2-player
Booster Draft
Teams
and Type II multi-player.
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I love Type 2 - 2 Player,
I hate Type 2 - Multi Player...
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I love Koalas
I love Penguins
:laugh:
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Hey now,
Don't forget about the Giraffe! Gilbert is upset that you forgot about him so soon.
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Hey now,
Don't forget about the Giraffe! Gilbert is upset that you forgot about him so soon.
Oops, was he the one that was holding the door for us? :laugh:
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He was indeed,
Oh I also enjoy Teams, tossing together decks 2 min before the event started was a blast for Jeremy and I
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He was indeed,
Oh I also enjoy Teams, tossing together decks 2 min before the event started was a blast for Jeremy and I
And the code talk was absolutely epic! I think you've given us a strategy for a whole year. ;)
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Yeah,
We didn't have that planned either, after the first game we layed out ground plans for the code, then we kinda just improvised after that, Big Bear was new to me, but I got it after I drew my copy ;)
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When it comes to Tims, I know I don't mean myself, but to not get confused with nobody, I have to mash the keyboard for a certain one.
Yeah, that strategy is pretty popular. I would say I hope you at least know the first couple letters, but after the number of "Tim Meriz" and "Timmerz" names I've gotten, I take nothing for granted.
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T1-2 player
T1-multiplayer
Booster
Teams (sounds like tons of fun, but I have never tried it)
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I prefer....
t1-2p
booster
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Redemption has its issues with just first names, particularly Tim and Ben
Yeah... I always get so confused when sitting near Ben Arp and then having someone yell "Ben!" across the room.
I'm changning my name to Alfonzo. So there. No more confusion.
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See, I told you we had issues. Here is an example of one taking one of my quotes and crediting it to Smokey.
The nerve! ;)
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Redemption has its issues with just first names, particularly Tim and Ben
Yeah... I always get so confused when sitting near Ben Arp and then having someone yell "Ben!" across the room.
I'm changning my name to Alfonzo. So there. No more confusion.
why not change it Megatron? ;)