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Title: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: The Guardian on February 05, 2019, 03:38:56 PM
We are still waiting to confirm an availability date with Rob, but here is the next Seasonal tournament promo  8)

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Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Kor on February 05, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
Looks great!  Can’t wait to get one...or more :)
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: goalieking87 on February 05, 2019, 03:45:26 PM
Very cool. Can see some good utility here and I like that it does not hold anything so the potential for R&D wouldn’t make people not use it.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: sepjazzwarrior on February 05, 2019, 03:47:19 PM
you cant make reserve go above 10 cards, correct?
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: The Guardian on February 05, 2019, 03:54:54 PM
Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on February 05, 2019, 03:47:19 PM
you cant make reserve go above 10 cards, correct?

The Reserve cannot start above 10, but it can go above 10 during the course of the game.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Asahel24601 on February 05, 2019, 04:07:59 PM
Oooooooh. This I like. More generic reserve access, thematic ability, and it's still good for its theme. What's not to like?
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Red Wing on February 05, 2019, 04:27:33 PM
I'm glad the proper art is being used.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on February 05, 2019, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: Red Wing on February 05, 2019, 04:27:33 PM
I'm glad the proper art is being used.

We would never use the other piece for a reprint of such importance
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Josh on February 05, 2019, 05:10:54 PM
Did Jordan Alstad design this card for his heroless decks?  Seems perfect for turtley decks  ;)

I really would like to see more concise language used on cards that trigger on certain phases.  "Each upkeep" literally means "On each player's upkeep", and other TCG players (especially MtG players) are used to seeing "each upkeep" language mean "every single upkeep". 

I understand the need to keep abilities to certain lengths...  But there's such a big difference in meaning between "Each upkeep/Each discard phase" and "On your upkeep/On your discard phase", and such a small difference in text length, that I'd like to see the change going forward.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Watchman on February 05, 2019, 05:15:03 PM
Why can you only take an OT enh from Reserve during upkeep but reserve any Enhancement during DC Phase? Why not just make it so you can take and reserve any enhancement?
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Gabe on February 05, 2019, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: Josh on February 05, 2019, 05:10:54 PM
Did Jordan Alstad design this card for his heroless decks?  Seems perfect for turtley decks  ;)

I really would like to see more concise language used on cards that trigger on certain phases.  "Each upkeep" literally means "On each player's upkeep", and other TCG players (especially MtG players) are used to seeing "each upkeep" language mean "every single upkeep". 

I understand the need to keep abilities to certain lengths...  But there's such a big difference in meaning between "Each upkeep/Each discard phase" and "On your upkeep/On your discard phase", and such a small difference in text length, that I'd like to see the change going forward.

It's not that we haven't discussed that change before. We have several years of precedent and many cards in print that use this specific language. Making a change now only muddies the water for all of those. At least if we're consistent with the current language once you learn that "each upkeep" is only read from the holder's perspective you can apply that consistently.

Quote from: Watchman on February 05, 2019, 05:15:03 PM
Why can you only take an OT enh from Reserve during upkeep but reserve any Enhancement during DC Phase? Why not just make it so you can take and reserve any enhancement?

Why not just let it Reserve and get any card?

The point being that limitations are needed for balance and to leave future design space.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Sean on February 06, 2019, 08:18:46 AM
How are seasonal promos obtained/distributed?
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: The Guardian on February 06, 2019, 09:14:11 AM
Quote from: Sean on February 06, 2019, 08:18:46 AM
How are seasonal promos obtained/distributed?

Seasonal promos are tournament promos for Local or District tournaments, but are only available for between 3-4 months of the year.

So far we've had Rapha of Gath, Majestic Heavens, Bethlehem and now Storehouse.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Sean on February 06, 2019, 09:45:54 AM
So they're rotating and would become available again in subsequent years?
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: The Guardian on February 06, 2019, 09:58:16 AM
That is the plan, yes.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Sean on February 06, 2019, 11:45:20 AM
Love that idea.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 07, 2019, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: Gabe on February 05, 2019, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: Josh on February 05, 2019, 05:10:54 PM
Did Jordan Alstad design this card for his heroless decks?  Seems perfect for turtley decks  ;)

I really would like to see more concise language used on cards that trigger on certain phases.  "Each upkeep" literally means "On each player's upkeep", and other TCG players (especially MtG players) are used to seeing "each upkeep" language mean "every single upkeep". 

I understand the need to keep abilities to certain lengths...  But there's such a big difference in meaning between "Each upkeep/Each discard phase" and "On your upkeep/On your discard phase", and such a small difference in text length, that I'd like to see the change going forward.

It's not that we haven't discussed that change before. We have several years of precedent and many cards in print that use this specific language. Making a change now only muddies the water for all of those. At least if we're consistent with the current language once you learn that "each upkeep" is only read from the holder's perspective you can apply that consistently.

Perhaps changing "Each upkeep" to "Your upkeep: " would make it clear enough?
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: The Guardian on February 07, 2019, 04:27:21 PM
That would require saying "During your" which would not fit.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on February 07, 2019, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: The Guardian on February 07, 2019, 04:27:21 PM
That would require saying "During your" which would not fit.

What about "On your?"  Does this change REG language?
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Gabe on February 07, 2019, 05:56:15 PM
While we generally appreciate feedback and ideas for changes, this card has already been sent to print so no further changes can be made. It was previewed to give the community a chance to see what's coming, nothing more.
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on February 07, 2019, 06:34:03 PM
Love it either way!
Title: Re: Next Seasonal Tournament Promo Announcement!
Post by: Watchman on February 07, 2019, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: Gabe on February 05, 2019, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: Watchman on February 05, 2019, 05:15:03 PM
Why can you only take an OT enh from Reserve during upkeep but reserve any Enhancement during DC Phase? Why not just make it so you can take and reserve any enhancement?

Why not just let it Reserve and get any card?

The point being that limitations are needed for balance and to leave future design space.

That is my point. I didn’t ask why not just let it Reserve or get any card because that would be too much. The fact that it doesn’t do that means the ability has limitations on what to target. And I see no unbalance with it getting any enhancement. While other cards like Raamses and Widows Tables are limited on what they can hold (appropriately and specifically so), with the original ability of Storehouse being almost legendary, and this new Storehouse being a promo it would have been nice to see this version have a cool update (such as the hand, deck, etc protection) but with the classic any-enhancement storage ability.  :2cents:
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