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Re: Nationals
« Reply #175 on: January 30, 2010, 12:43:08 AM »
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...but it will require selflessness again on the part of numbers worshipers.
Yeah, I agree. It seems like just a year ago we had some guy actually arguing that Nationals should be in California because the Southwestern Regional had the largest number of participants in 2008. I wish I could recall the name of that numbers worshiper. ;)

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #176 on: January 30, 2010, 01:24:16 AM »
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...but it will require selflessness again on the part of numbers worshipers.
Yeah, I agree. It seems like just a year ago we had some guy actually arguing that Nationals should be in California because the Southwestern Regional had the largest number of participants in 2008. I wish I could recall the name of that numbers worshiper. ;)
LOL.  Actually, that was ONLY in response to people who said that numbers should be a factor.  My main argument was fairness - let the western half of the country have 1 nationals after the other side had 14.  Clearly, we had enough numbers to have a successful (though somewhat diminutive) event.  :)  

I only wish that the core of players I had in 1999-2000 could have been around long enough to attend nationals in CA.  That group was amazing.  I was only average compared to them in those years, and yet I won at nats twice in a row.  Some of them would have likely placed in the top 3 in type 1 as well.  The Arriaga brothers were amazing.  I think they both finished high in rankngs in those years.  Jorge Bugarin was super gifted strategically.  Adam and Adam, Abraham, Isaac*, Big Kenny and Little Kenny, Yuen, Sear, Frank ... Good times.  (Isaac is known for placing second out of 5 at a multiplayer table with the first ever heroless deck, circa 1999.  Apparently the heroless part was accidental...).  The Arriagas and Yuen moved away, the rest went off to college or work.  A later group was also quite good.  Andy Siew dominated here for a lot of years.  He was beating Chris Bany (who visited our Regional event) 6-0 in Type 2, 2-player, but made the mistake of blocking against Chris' devastaor deck (back when it was legal).  Andy watched Chris take a 30 minute turn, get his entire hand AND deck get discarded, and lost 7-6.  If he'd given Chris that soul without blocking, Andy would have won 7-1.   Andy's brother Kenny was also very good, and Anant and Christian were great, too.  They come by to visit tournaments now and again, but their hardcore days have passed.  My group of players now is good, but nowhere near the top calibre of those groups of guys.  When a decade goes by without a nationals within 1500 miles, it keeps certain groups of top players from getting the chance to go to a nats.  Thankfully, during that period, Rob visited us during a Regional event.  That was super great of him.  :)  But when you go to a nats, and meet ALL the great people, it inspires you in a way nothing else can.  I wish they'd had that chance.

I have greatly enjoyed every national tournament I've attended, but my favorite was 2009 because I got to share it with many of my local players.  I hope YourMathTeacher and anyone else who has not experienced that get a chance to do the same.  I do hope that Minnesota gets another chance before too long (2011 would be SUPER!), because I don't want a group there to come and go without getting the chance to have a nats.  But I also hope that new states are given special consideration.  There is simply nothing like a national tournament, and experiencing it with your local playgroup (and have them meet super great guys like Roy and Rob and the rest of the hardcore out-of-staters who love this game) is super special.  Man, I miss nationals.  :(
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #177 on: January 30, 2010, 02:25:00 AM »
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...but it will require selflessness again on the part of numbers worshipers.
Yeah, I agree. It seems like just a year ago we had some guy actually arguing that Nationals should be in California because the Southwestern Regional had the largest number of participants in 2008. I wish I could recall the name of that numbers worshiper. ;)
LOL.  Actually, that was ONLY in response to people who said that numbers should be a factor. My main argument was fairness - let the western half of the country have 1 nationals after the other side had 14.
I know.  I was just cuttin' on ya.

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Clearly, we had enough numbers to have a successful (though somewhat diminutive) event.  :)
Agreed. If people are going to point to attendance it is only fair to note that Cali was granted the golden opportunity of hosting Nationals during the worst economic downturn since the 1930s when most of the major tournaments saw attendance hits last year. When you couple this with the fact that the amount of airline discounting was down quite a bit last summer (at least on the MN to CA flights) the event would have--in all likelihood--been considerably less diminutive under more nearly normal circumstances.

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #178 on: January 30, 2010, 04:54:42 PM »
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By saying you were "foolish" or even saying you might of been to expect people not to disrespect you is disrespecting them. Make sense?
So, calling myself foolish is disrespectful to others? I still don't understand...
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #179 on: January 30, 2010, 06:59:33 PM »
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You're claiming (By saying it was foolish to expect no disrespect) that the people on you are talking to are being disrespectful. (Which is insulting)
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #180 on: January 30, 2010, 07:37:15 PM »
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I'm not calling anyone disrespectful. I also never claimed that I deserved any respect in the first place. I'm just doubting whether someone who claims that I am "whining" shows any respect to me, which I think is a valid doubt.
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #181 on: January 30, 2010, 09:03:44 PM »
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Ok who cares leave it alone. Anyway, we really do need to know where nats is for plane tickets. It is the cheapest to get tickets months in ahead.

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #182 on: January 30, 2010, 09:07:24 PM »
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I vote we let Tyler host it.  :)

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #183 on: January 30, 2010, 09:43:23 PM »
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I vote we let Tyler host it.  :)

....and Tippecanoe, too!  ;)
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #184 on: January 30, 2010, 11:03:20 PM »
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Hahaha, thank you Bryon. Once church finished up their building, which will be more than enough for nationals, I can think about it.

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #185 on: January 30, 2010, 11:37:53 PM »
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I vote we let Tyler host it.  :)

....and Tippecanoe, too!  ;)
Somehow that just feels... backwards.  :)

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #186 on: February 04, 2010, 09:04:49 PM »
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I vote we let Tyler host it.  :)

....and Tippecanoe, too!  ;)
Somehow that just feels... backwards.  :)

Either way it's a win.
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #187 on: February 07, 2010, 05:04:56 PM »
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Hahaha, thank you Bryon. Once church finished up their building, which will be more than enough for nationals, I can think about it.

if it was in ATL, i think it would need to be closer to the airport.
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #188 on: February 08, 2010, 11:54:23 AM »
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SAINTS WIN!!

so...

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #189 on: February 08, 2010, 11:58:05 AM »
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After I host enough tourneys I will get the money it cost to host and host Nats in Missouri, I doubt that there are 5 or more people wanting to actually host.
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #190 on: February 08, 2010, 04:54:25 PM »
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I honestly think that there should be some sort of rotation between regions, only because that would be most fair. Then, these 20-some page long "discussions" (read: arguments why such-and-such region should have it on a such-and-such year) would cease to be so problematic.

If we instituted a rotation between the regions, but no one in such-and-such a region wanted to host that year, then it would automatically go to the next region.

I don't know, maybe I'm being too optimistic. But that's my :2cents:

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #191 on: February 08, 2010, 05:06:17 PM »
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*Tosses my  :2cents: in with yours* +1

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #192 on: February 08, 2010, 05:15:46 PM »
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:2cents: Make it 6!

I'm not sure about a rotation, but an official division into "regions" would work well IMO.  If an official tally was kept on how long a specific "region" had gone without Nats, it might help on making things more balanced (and allow the West to have Nats every 4 years or so.)
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #193 on: February 08, 2010, 07:05:48 PM »
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eh. then it'll be like a regionals once a year.

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #194 on: February 08, 2010, 07:40:50 PM »
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ok the boards now have a goal

if we reach 2,000 cents, everyone at natz gets a cookie  ;)
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #195 on: February 08, 2010, 07:50:12 PM »
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ok the boards now have a goal

if we reach 2,000 cents, everyone at natz gets a cookie  ;)
I'll steal it.

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #196 on: February 08, 2010, 08:03:10 PM »
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The cookie or the cents?
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #197 on: February 08, 2010, 08:32:16 PM »
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ok the boards now have a goal

if we reach 2,000 cents, everyone at natz gets a cookie  ;)
I'll steal it.
lemme correct myself:

everyone except ring wraith will get a cookie  :laugh:
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Re: Nationals
« Reply #198 on: February 09, 2010, 12:11:57 AM »
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The cookie or the cents?
the cents. and then I'll go buy cookies for myself while Raven realizes that he can't give everyone at Nats a cookie, because A. he won't have the money to since I stole it, and B. he probably won't be at Nats

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Re: Nationals
« Reply #199 on: February 09, 2010, 02:06:40 AM »
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But he'll have 20 bucks!  ;)
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