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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption® Official Tournaments => Topic started by: Isildur on February 03, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
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Im entertaining the idea of possibly showing up to one more nats any one have any idea where it might be this year? Would be nice to plan WAY in advance lol Usually by now there has been at least a rumor floating around of who might host...
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Knoxville, I hope. I wanna go again.
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I believe New York (Skittens' group) and Texas were the future talk of last year, and NY is gone, so perhaps TX?
Florida or Wisconsin could make a bid.
Knoxville, I hope. I wanna go again.
Kentucky would be the only other option close to TN, but that probably won't be for a couple years.
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Why is NY gone? From what I heard it's still being put on the table. I could definitely see Wisconsin coming pretty soon.
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I think he assumed that Western NY (Rochester) was the only bid.
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I think he assumed that Western NY (Rochester) was the only bid.
Rochester was the only NY bid anyone was seriously talking about last year, when Randall was a major force. I'm in favor of anything in New York, so I don't have to drive far. I feel like we should shoot for attendance rather than "fairness" this year, with the late release of the set, so going MN again so soon might not be a bad call.
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South Minnesota :)
(Some people refer to it as "Iowa"...) 8)
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New Orleans..... that way if the game is no going so good for me, I can cause a timely power outage to change the momentum... ;)
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And let the conspiracy theories begin...
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I believe New York and Texas were the future talk of last year
My 2 guesses (and these are totally guesses, no spoilers here) are still NE (MD, NY, PA, MA in that order) or TX (more likely in 2014 I think).
Kentucky would be the only other option close to TN
I appreciate the shout out, but I don't have any current plans to apply for Nats 2013.
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If Dayne could pull it off, I'd get behind MD. The issue is I'm not sure how big the local fanbase is, and like Chris said, attendance is a big issue.
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And let the conspiracy theories begin...
It's not a conspiracy. It's voodoo. Didn't you see the commercials? :o
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And let the conspiracy theories begin...
It's not a conspiracy. It's voodoo. Didn't you see the commercials? :o
Most liberals are blaming Bush.
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Don't think anyone is blaming Rush Limbaugh...
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I'm convinced MD would pull in good numbers. It's within 12 hours of most of the major playgroups on this side of the country (and possibly all of them, other than FL), and we would have some Creation momentum still.
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It's within 12 hours of most of the major playgroups on this side of the country (and possibly all of them, other than FL), ....
That's the problem with living on a peninsula. ;)
The only playgroup near us meets on an oil rig in the Gulf. :o
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And, like so many other playgroups recently, that one went up in flames.
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*cringes* No. I don't think we could host a nationals. As far as I know, none of us have the ability to foot the bill. Dayne, obviously, would have more to say than I can, but MD really isn't on the radar as far as I'm aware.
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South Minnesota :)
Iowa gets my vote.
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I would be most happy if it is hosted in the area in or around MN.
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At one point I had considered working toward Nationals, but then our group kind of fell apart last year... Definitely not going to be in WI this year!
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Where in Iowa? Des Moines? Quad Cities?
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probably in a corn field
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Where in Iowa? Des Moines? Quad Cities?
Actually, it would most likely be between those two options, in North Liberty (just north of Iowa City). That's where Gabe hosts his tournies, and if it were in Iowa, I'm fairly certain Gabe would be the host.
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If it's in Iowa it will be right next to a corn field... just outside North Liberty (essentially Iowa City) at Grace Community Church (http://www.graceb3.org). I'm willing to host the event. Last I heard there were other people in line ahead of me for this year, but nothing official has been decided yet.
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If it's in Iowa it will be right next to a corn field... just outside North Liberty (essentially Iowa City) at Grace Community Church (http://www.graceb3.org). I'm willing to host the event. Last I heard there were other people in line ahead of me for this year, but nothing official has been decided yet.
There it is folks, let the campaign begin! Iowa may never get to (have to?) have a halftime show with Beyonce, but at least we can trust Gabe to keep the lights on.
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Get to. Definitely not "have to"
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YAY IOWA!!!!!!
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... but at least we can trust Gabe to keep the lights on.
How can we trust a guy that looks like Adonijah? ;)
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I'd vote for an Iowa Nationals, not that it matters since I won't be going anyway. :-\
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I'm gonna start a "If Iowa gets Nationals, Gabe has to shave his beard and get his hair cut short" campaign! ;D
Seriously, I've always wondering what he would look like clean shaven with a shorter hairstyle... :P
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Mars, Equestria, The Savage Land, and Krypton are all vouching to host Nats.
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If it's in Iowa it will be right next to a corn field... just outside North Liberty (essentially Iowa City) at Grace Community Church (http://www.graceb3.org). I'm willing to host the event. Last I heard there were other people in line ahead of me for this year, but nothing official has been decided yet.
Sweet! This Hawkeye alum is very familiar with the area. Ideally for me, attending NEXT year in Iowa would be a near certainty as I am already planning a trip to the Quad Cities in the summer of 2014. I've got family, friends, and a nationally televised antique shop to visit in Le Claire, Princeton, and Clinton.
But if it is this year I MAY be able to swing it if the Lord is merciful and shelters me from any financial setbacks.
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The antique shop is kind of overrated and overrun with tourists.
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If it's in Iowa it will be right next to a corn field...
Gabe, that could be anywhere in Iowa...
...just outside North Liberty...
Oh, okay, now I got it. ;)
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The antique shop is kind of overrated and overrun with tourists.
Those would be my buddies. I'M the one visiting family. ;)
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I like the idea of Iowa, I have a cousin in Iowa City who wants to get into redemption. I might be able to go and get him plugged in.
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If it's in Iowa it will be right next to a corn field...
Gabe, that could be anywhere in Iowa...
...just outside North Liberty...
Oh, okay, now I got it. ;)
I like to think of it as 'down the street from Pizza Ranch.'
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I remember making a big deal out of Pizza Ranch at regionals a few years back because Austin had no good pizza at the time. Oh how times have changed now that I'm within walking distance to Mesa and Punch.
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All kidding aside (for those of you who saw my previous post), is there a place in the US that has a good player community that hasn't hosted a Nationals before?
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All kidding aside (for those of you who saw my previous post), is there a place in the US that has a good player community that hasn't hosted a Nationals before?
Texas. Personally I hope Texas hosts one or two years down the line and not now.
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All kidding aside (for those of you who saw my previous post), is there a place in the US that has a good player community that hasn't hosted a Nationals before?
Texas. Personally I hope Texas hosts one or two years down the line and not now.
Louisiana had it. If Sheriff Buford T. Justice can wander over to the Bayou state any ol' time he wants and consider it his territory, so can the TX groups. ;)
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All kidding aside (for those of you who saw my previous post), is there a place in the US that has a good player community that hasn't hosted a Nationals before?
Alaska? Hawaii? I would love to see the North East host another National Tournament.
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ORLANDO NATZ 2014
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If:
1 - Nats is in the NE or Iowa this year
2 - YMT put in a serious bid for Nats next year
Then:
I think he'd have a really good shot at it.
The only problems I could see would be:
1 - if it is the NE 2013, then MN might complain about 3 years in a row being in the East
2 - if it is Iowa 2013, then the NE might complain about 4 years in a row NOT being in the NE
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If:
1 - Nats is in the NE or Iowa this year
2 - YMT put in a serious bid for Nats next year
Then:
I think he'd have a really good shot at it.
The only problems I could see would be:
1 - if it is the NE 2013, then MN might complain about 3 years in a row being in the East
2 - if it is Iowa 2013, then the NE might complain about 4 years in a row NOT being in the NE
WhatyoutalkinboutWillis? Nebraska borders Iowa. ;)
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To be fair, the game seems to be pretty concentrate in the NE and midwest(for the sake of this argument, TN is midwest) right now with smaller active pockets in FL Texas and the Northwest.
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To be fair, the game seems to be pretty concentrate in the NE and midwest(for the sake of this argument, TN is midwest) right now with smaller active pockets in FL Texas and the Northwest.
Are you referring to Minnesota as the Northwest? :scratch:
That would make STAMP like the Far Far West? :P
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If YMT even wants that. Which if i remember right, he's repeatedly said he doesnt.
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If YMT even wants that. Which if i remember right, he's repeatedly said he doesnt.
I said I would not go to Natz. I never said anything about Natz coming to me. ;)
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If YMT even wants that. Which if i remember right, he's repeatedly said he doesnt.
I said I would not go to Natz. I never said anything about Natz coming to me. ;)
I'm sure you'd love the hyper competitive players coming to you.
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I'm sure you'd love the hyper competitive players coming to you.
I didn't realize you were so intent on talking people out of hosting. Is that one of your Global Moderator duties?
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To be fair, the game seems to be pretty concentrate in the NE and midwest(for the sake of this argument, TN is midwest) right now with smaller active pockets in FL Texas and the Northwest.
I appreciate how places like Columbus and Knoxville--which are (within error) equidistant to Boston and Minneapolis--are considered part of the mid-west when discussions like this occur. Has anyone ever heard someone claim with a straight face that Knoxville is--for the sake of argument--in the northeast?
This doesn't have anything to do with Nationals; I just find it amusing.
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I recently heard a comedian from Idaho say that according to people in the Northeast, the Midwest is anything west of NY, north of FL, and east of LA. Apparently he was right. ;)
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To be fair, the game seems to be pretty concentrate in the NE and midwest(for the sake of this argument, TN is midwest) right now with smaller active pockets in FL Texas and the Northwest.
Are you referring to Minnesota as the Northwest? :scratch:
That would make STAMP like the Far Far West? :P
Mar Far West, domo arigato. ;)
Just remember, survivalists live in the real Northwest, so our playgroup will never, ever really die. We're worse than zombies, but don't eat flesh or promos. ;D
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I recently heard a comedian from Idaho say that according to people in the Northeast, the Midwest is anything west of NY, north of FL, and east of LA. Apparently he was right. ;)
To be fair, when I was in college I met many people from the "Midwest" who thought New England was part of Great Britain. ;)
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To be fair, the game seems to be pretty concentrate in the NE and midwest(for the sake of this argument, TN is midwest) right now with smaller active pockets in FL Texas and the Northwest.
Are you referring to Minnesota as the Northwest? :scratch:
That would make STAMP like the Far Far West? :P
Is minnesota not a part of the midwest anymore?
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I recently heard a comedian from Idaho say that according to people in the Northeast, the Midwest is anything west of NY, north of FL, and east of LA. Apparently he was right. ;)
To be fair, when I was in college I met many people from the "Midwest" who thought New England was part of Great Britain. ;)
For most of us, it might as well be. It's a far away land where the people talk funny and have weird sporting events like rowing, and soccer.
To be fair, the game seems to be pretty concentrate in the NE and midwest(for the sake of this argument, TN is midwest) right now with smaller active pockets in FL Texas and the Northwest.
Are you referring to Minnesota as the Northwest? :scratch:
That would make STAMP like the Far Far West? :P
Is minnesota not a part of the midwest anymore?
For the sake of your argument, Minneapolis is a thousand miles northwest of another Midwest destination, so it makes sense.
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ITT: Nobody knows what the phrase "for the sake of this argument" means. Yes I know that Tennesee is not part of the geographical midwest, but of the south eastern states it's the only one with a large enough play group to host nationals so rather than say that Redemption is concentrated in the NE, Midwest, and Tennessee, I just included Tenesee as part of the midwest.
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Florida is further west than Ohio and most of Michigan. :o
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Florida is further west than Ohio and most of Michigan. :o
I think I am actually further west than Cleveland! :o
For the sake of argument, the panhandle of Florida is considered South Alabama to those of us way down in Central Florida. They're in a different time (twilight) zone than us. ;)
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I'm sure you'd love the hyper competitive players coming to you.
I didn't realize you were so intent on talking people out of hosting. Is that one of your Global Moderator duties?
It's not. I think (from all I've seen of you and such) that you'd be a great Nationals host. I am very confident in your abilities. I was just really surprised you were even open it (since you often bash the competitive player base) and when you were, I was wondering why you'd even want those competitive players to come to you and ruin your players' tournaments. I don't see how you've changed views out of nowhere, that's all. IIRC, you said something along the lines of you never want to attend a nationals because of the spirit of some of the players, and hosting would certainly count as attending.
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Your assumptions are all incorrect, which is why I found it odd that you singled me out in this thread.
Attending a Nats would not be the same as hosting Nats, and I'll explain why. As a host, I can control the atmosphere of my tournaments. If players are getting out of hand, I can do something about it. When I am not the host, it would not be my place to intervene (except in extreme circumstances, of course). Also, I have found that even the most competitive players scale down when they are among young players who are just there having fun. They tend to actually assist their opponents in game. My players enjoy this interaction tremendously. This is one of the reasons I oppose Top-Cut.
For me to attend a Natz would mean that I would have to play against highly competitive players, which is a whole different ball game. In spite of what you may think, I am highly competitive myself, which is one the reasons I don't play in my own tournaments. In case you haven't noticed, I am not an easy person to get along with.
Personally I think that the highly competitive players would not come to Orlando anyway, because the whole magical Disney atmosphere would shun them. ;)
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I'm not the only one who enjoys competition and the atmosphere that comes with it am I?
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Personally I think that the highly competitive players would not come to Orlando anyway, because the whole magical Disney atmosphere would shun them. ;)
I would come. And if things didn't go well, I'll bet Mickey would give me a hug. Just before Disney World security arrests me for sneaking into the park.
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Also, I have found that even the most competitive players scale down when they are among young players who are just there having fun. They tend to actually assist their opponents in game. My players enjoy this interaction tremendously. This is one of the reasons I oppose Top-Cut.
What does that have to do with top cut? Whether I'm in 8th or in 8/8 doesn't matter if the younger player is in 72 or didn't make the top cut, because we won't be playing anyway.
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You're right, competitive players do tone it down when playing newbies and young kids, which is why competitiveness is not an issue. Competitive players are only competitive when they are playing against each other, and competitive players enjoy playing other competitive players. To use this as an argument against top cut is ridiculous, top cuts purpose is to eliminate the types of mismatches that make final placing an unreliable barometer of where players truly finished, it has nothing to do with age or competitiveness.
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Please discuss Top Cut in the Top Cut thread. Thanks! :)
I would come. And if things didn't go well, I'll bet Mickey would give me a hug. Just before Disney World security arrests me for sneaking into the park.
I don't remember him giving you a hug the last time we were there... :P
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Personally I think that the highly competitive players would not come to Orlando anyway, because the whole magical Disney atmosphere would shun them. ;)
I would come. And if things didn't go well, I'll bet Mickey would give me a hug. Just before Disney World security arrests me for sneaking into the park.
Recall that I used to work at Disney, so I know for a fact that Cast Members are trained on how to identify highly competitive gamers and avoid them. If you have ever had one of the characters suddenly take a break just as you were approaching, then you know what I am talking about. Guardian probably got a hug because he is not highly competitive. He just happens to win all the time.
FWIW, I will not be responding to the Top Cut questions per Guardian's request. That was not really the main point of my post anyway. It was just an aside that popped in my head. ;)
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Guardian probably got a hug because he is not highly competitive. He just happens to win all the time.
I got a hug because someone told me they could get a hug from Mickey before I could... ::)
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Guardian probably got a hug because he is not highly competitive. He just happens to win all the time.
I got a hug because someone told me they could get a hug from Mickey before I could... ::)
Weren't you like 20 last time we went there?
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This discussion has morphed from this years Nats location to geography lessons to Disney to Mickey Mouse to hugs...yet we can't talk about top cut? Ok.
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This discussion has morphed from this years Nats location to geography lessons to Disney to Mickey Mouse to hugs...yet we can't talk about top cut? Ok.
That is because Top Cut already has its own thread. I'm sure if there was a thread devoted to how little Americans know about the geography of their own country, then those posts would have been redirected as well. ;)
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Attending a Nats would not be the same as hosting Nats, and I'll explain why. As a host, I can control the atmosphere of my tournaments. If players are getting out of hand, I can do something about it.
Statements like this are why Alex questioned your interest in hosting Nats. You might not mean anything by it in this thread, but it's far from the first time you've taken potshots at the competitive community or made an assumption that players will "get out of hand," to the point where you won't even attend a national tournament. You seem to be under the impression that the overall atmosphere of a national tournament is predominantly hostile, despite allegations to the contrary in multiple threads. Don't judge what you've never experienced.
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Don't judge what you've never experienced.
My opinion is based on hostile encounters at state and regional tournaments, so I do indeed have experience with the issues I present.
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Nationals and anything under Nationals are two completely different animals.
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Don't judge what you've never experienced.
My opinion is based on hostile encounters at state and regional tournaments, so I do indeed have experience with the issues I present.
I was at Nationals. I saw nothing remotely hostile. I've been to a Pokémon Battle Road tournament back in 2008 when those were the equvilent of our locals, it had a more competitive/hostile atmosphere than our Nationals.
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This discussion has morphed from this years Nats location...
The only thing for certain is that it won't be in the Northwest...of the United States, circa 2013!
...to geography lessons...
Thoroughly lacking in today's schools. :-\
...to Disney [World]...
I last went in 1976. :o
...to Mickey Mouse...
When explaining the decision process surrounding ANB rulings. ::)
...to hugs...
Careful...the ACLU might be lurking aroung the corner. :police:
...yet we can't talk about top cut? Ok.
Dem's da rulz! :-X
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I just realized I've been to Nats 2005 and Nats 2009. If I stick to the every 4 years plan I guess I have to show up this year.
(Hmmm...I really hope our company waits to do its ITSM upgrade next year.)
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It really is sad when we're trying to put 'competitive' on the exact same level as 'hostile'. -_-
It's a tournament. It's competitive by DEFINITION.
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Don't judge what you've never experienced.
My opinion is based on hostile encounters at state and regional tournaments, so I do indeed have experience with the issues I present.
How big were these tournaments? Who was there? How long ago was this?
I've gone to three national tournaments, two regionals, and two state tournaments. Some of these were as a noob, some of them were as a future national champion (yes, yes, in a category that doesn't matter, but let's stay on topic ::)) I've never encountered any overarching themes of hostility, and in fact, the bigger tournaments tend to be even more friendly. This summer I drove 8 hours to attend the EC tournament at Underwood's (someone I traditionally butt heads with on the forums), and nobody involved had more than two hours of sleep for the duration of the event, and it's the most fun non-Nats or Creation event I've attended. Nearly everyone else's experiences are something similar to my own. I'm forced to come to the conclusion that your experiences were anomalies.
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Don't judge what you've never experienced.
My opinion is based on hostile encounters at state and regional tournaments, so I do indeed have experience with the issues I present.
I was at Nationals. I saw nothing remotely hostile. I've been to a Pokémon Battle Road tournament back in 2008 when those were the equvilent of our locals, it had a more competitive/hostile atmosphere than our Nationals.
Which is funny, because from what I've heard, Pokemon has the next best environment.
The tournament itself is competitive, but certainly not hostile. Outside of the tournament you'll find nothing but a bunch of awesome people.
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I don't think anything can get more hostile than throwing carrots at a bus full of nuns. Redemption certainly is the most hostile game on the market.
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...to geography lessons...
Thoroughly lacking in today's schools. :-\
Actually last semester I took an AP Human Geography class and we did some intense geographic studies. ;)
I've always had a good sense of "family" at the tournaments I go to and people aren't "hostile" in the least. Although, most of my tournaments are in Minnesota and being so nice and all... ;)
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I'm forced to come to the conclusion that your experiences were anomalies.
As a mathematician, I certainly agree that this is a possibility. The fact that it happened more than once is discouraging. I would blame my own presence were it not for the fact that I was not involved in either situation until after it had started and I had to act as an arbitrator (referee actually).
However, I take comfort in knowing that I am not the only one who experiences anomalies, as evidenced by this quote:
Which is funny, because from what I've heard, Pokemon has the next best environment.
My inner teacher wants to give people every chance to get it right, even after several "mistakes," which may be why I have still entertained the thought of hosting Natz here in Orlando. However, this thread causes concern, since so many of you are so quick to jump all over me about simple posts I make. This side discussion started simply by me posting Orlando Natz 2014, and quickly turned into an interrogation/trial. That's not very comforting.
I've always had a good sense of "family" at the tournaments I go to and people aren't "hostile" in the least. Although, most of my tournaments are in Minnesota and being so nice and all... ;)
I know you used winking smilies, but this may be more true than you realize. Perhaps my first foray into Natz would be in MN, since I certainly would like to meet Fortress Alstad and Wild Bill in person. ;D
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ITT: Nobody knows what the phrase "for the sake of this argument" means. Yes I know that Tennesee is not part of the geographical midwest, but of the south eastern states it's the only one with a large enough play group to host nationals so rather than say that Redemption is concentrated in the NE, Midwest, and Tennessee, I just included Tenesee as part of the midwest.
I just find it highly amusing that I have never ever seen anyone include Tennessee as part of the Northeast, even though Knoxville is about 200 miles closer to Rochester, NY than it is to Minneapolis, MN (just to pick two cities at random for the sake of this argument).
Perhaps my first foray into Natz would be in MN, since I certainly would like to meet Fortress Alstad and Wild Bill in person. ;D
You might want to think about dropping in for the annual Type-2 Extravaganza. Although it is slightly larger than Natz (T2 attendance-wise), you would still get a chance to spend time with Wild Bill. Rumors are that the Fortress is also going to be well represented this year.
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Perhaps my first foray into Natz would be in MN, since I certainly would like to meet Fortress Alstad and Wild Bill in person. ;D
You might want to think about dropping in for the annual Type-2 Extravaganza. Although it is slightly larger than Natz (T2 attendance-wise), you would still get a chance to spend time with Wild Bill. Rumors are that the Fortress is also going to be well represented this year.
Those were my thoughts as well when I read that post. YMT, you should come join us for fun and fellowship with a good amount of competitiveness and very little hostility. It's always lots of fun!
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I hope Nationals will be in Florida in 2014. I have never been there and I would love to meet Your Math Teacher. I bet he is really a nice guy. Besides once he attends one (even the one he hosts)he will be hooked on the fun and fellowship.
We do help out of staters with transportation for the type 2 only, so we could make it happen if he wants to come. That would be a blast having Your Math Teacher at the Type 2 Only.
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My experiences so far with Pokemon have made me appreciate the spirit of this game, and I haven't even been to a Pokemon tournament yet. Maybe it's because of the increase in the money that's involved, but its pretty srs. Hilariously fun, but srs. There's currently an initiative going around a big pokemon strategy forum to stop talking about decks because nooby netdeckers are doing well. How's that for competitive...
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I suppose that I should clarify that when I mention "highly competitive" players, I am thinking of specific people that have been part of my unfortunate experiences. I generalize the term to avoid naming names, since the players in question still play. In my attempt to avoid opening old wounds, I have probably created new ones with people I have never met. I apologize for the miscommunication on my part.
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My experiences so far with Pokemon have made me appreciate the spirit of this game, and I haven't even been to a Pokemon tournament yet. Maybe it's because of the increase in the money that's involved, but its pretty srs. Hilariously fun, but srs. There's currently an initiative going around a big pokemon strategy forum to stop talking about decks because nooby netdeckers are doing well. How's that for competitive...
That's ridiculous. Deck building skill shouldn't make for playskill.
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My experiences so far with Pokemon have made me appreciate the spirit of this game, and I haven't even been to a Pokemon tournament yet. Maybe it's because of the increase in the money that's involved, but its pretty srs. Hilariously fun, but srs. There's currently an initiative going around a big pokemon strategy forum to stop talking about decks because nooby netdeckers are doing well. How's that for competitive...
That's ridiculous. Deck building skill shouldn't make for playskill.
Disagree. Since the format is pretty standardized in about 2 seconds after the new sets are released, secret techs are a HUGE deal. Playskill is important, but deck building should ALWAYS be a part of the equation of who wins. Cookie cutter lists ruin creative deck building.
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Both Pokemon and Redemption suffer from pretty straight forward deck building. There are key differences between the decks, obviously, but in the end, it doesn't take a genius to put together a TGT deck. Or a Blastoise/Keldeo deck.
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My experiences so far with Pokemon have made me appreciate the spirit of this game, and I haven't even been to a Pokemon tournament yet. Maybe it's because of the increase in the money that's involved, but its pretty srs. Hilariously fun, but srs. There's currently an initiative going around a big pokemon strategy forum to stop talking about decks because nooby netdeckers are doing well. How's that for competitive...
That's ridiculous. Deck building skill shouldn't make for playskill.
Disagree. Since the format is pretty standardized in about 2 seconds after the new sets are released, secret techs are a HUGE deal. Playskill is important, but deck building should ALWAYS be a part of the equation of who wins. Cookie cutter lists ruin creative deck building.
I must have misunderstood, I was referring to skeleton lists and the like.
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I have a Magikarp OTK skeleton if anyone is interested.
Willing to trade for Shamgar OTK.
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I suppose that I should clarify that when I mention "highly competitive" players, I am thinking of specific people that have been part of my unfortunate experiences.
I can't help but wonder how I fit into your thinking on this issue. On the one hand, I am a "highly competitive" player, and I do always try my best to win tournaments with whatever deck I'm using. On the other hand, I've been to multiple tournaments that you've hosted at this point, and I don't remember there being any hostility at any of them. And in particular, I feel like you and I got along great despite often disagreeing with each other here on the forum.
This summer I drove 8 hours to attend the EC tournament at Underwood's (someone I traditionally butt heads with on the forums), and nobody involved had more than two hours of sleep for the duration of the event, and it's the most fun non-Nats or Creation event I've attended.
Thanks for the compliment Chris. This is another example of people getting along great in person even though they don't always seem to on the forum. I just want to point this out so that YMT doesn't base his decision to host Nats 2014 on forum appearances. He'd be surprised how well all these people actually get along in real life :)
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I can't help but wonder how I fit into your thinking on this issue.
For some reason the song You're So Vain just popped into my head.... ;)
Trust me when I say that the incidents I am referring to would not be mistaken for anything but hostility. So, no Mark, I am not referring to you.
We do help out of staters with transportation for the type 2 only, so we could make it happen if he wants to come. That would be a blast having Your Math Teacher at the Type 2 Only.
Two things about this post:
1.) What kind of transportation help can you provide from Florida?
2.) My presence would be a blast because I have never played Type 2, and have only judged a couple games (of course I referred all questions to Josh Kopp). Therefore I would be fodder for the pros. ;)
Both Pokemon and Redemption suffer from pretty straight forward deck building. There are key differences between the decks, obviously, but in the end, it doesn't take a genius to put together a TGT deck. Or a Blastoise/Keldeo deck.
Since I am not a genius, could you tell me about this Blastoise/Keldeo deck (in PM)? My son was thinking about attending a tournament soon, and I know for a fact that he has both. I know what Blastoise does (now that they reprinted the original ability), but I have no idea what Keldeo does. I just know that he got the box with the Keldeo toy in it.
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It's Keldeo EX (the oversized card that came with the box) he needs, not Keldeo.
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It's Keldeo EX (the oversized card that came with the box) he needs, not Keldeo.
Wouldn't that card stand out in the deck? ;)
**Gee, I wonder what that prize card is?**
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We do help out of staters with transportation for the type 2 only, so we could make it happen if he wants to come. That would be a blast having Your Math Teacher at the Type 2 Only.
Two things about this post:
1.) What kind of transportation help can you provide from Florida?
2.) My presence would be a blast because I have never played Type 2, and have only judged a couple games (of course I referred all questions to Josh Kopp). Therefore I would be fodder for the pros. ;)
In the past, Bill has given away a good chunk of his Christmas money to help players from out of state attend the T2 only, just so the super competitive MN T2 players have some fresh meat...er, um, so that we can fellowship with others. I've always been fortunate enough to only need a gallon of gas to get to and fro the tourney, so I'm not sure of specific amounts, but the best thing would be to PM Bill. Also, I'm sure round trip fares from Orlando to Minneapolis and back are much less expensive than the other way. If you come to MN in early March and tell people you're from Orlando on vacation, they will probably give you an odd stare and shake their heads.
Also, the worst thing that could happen in the tournament would be you would hang out at the bottom tables with MJB and Craig (if he can make it). While I've never been there, I can observe from across the room that they always have a good time.
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Also, the worst thing that could happen in the tournament would be you would hang out at the bottom tables with MJB and Craig (if he can make it). While I've never been there, I can observe from across the room that they always have a good time.
I can attest to this. Going to the Type 2 was one of most amusing tournaments I ever had the pleasure of attending. It saddens me that I have not been able to return...maybe after I finish this silly little doctorate degree :P.
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I was always trying to figure out the fourth person for the type 2 multi ultimate paring. MJB, Craig, Rawrlolsauce and ???? I think Your Math Teacher would fit nicely. We would have to charge admission.
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Or we could videotape it, edit it, and then add in commentary!! Oooh the possibilites...
"So Justin, Matt is rescuing with a Green Hero...what do you think he's planning to do here?"
"Well Bill, he's either trying to bluff Craig into handing over a free Lost Soul or wanting to drop A New Beginning. I think the odds are pretty even at this point..."
"Do you see Alan intervening if Craig shows some indecision?"
"Oh there's no question Alan will intervene...it's just a matter of whether or not he actually has a card to play..."
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"And we're back to the action. Before we went to break, we saw Matt going for a rescue with a Green Hero against Craig. Bill, let's take a look at the Cactus Game Design Hand Cam and see what Matt actually is planning."
"Oh my Justin! It looks like Matt only has Angel of the Lord! Will Craig make the right play and band two of his Evil Characters?"
"Uh oh Bill, it looks like Craig is starting to buckle...he's reaching for a Soul!"
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Matt wins by a touchdown?
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I think he said he wanted an orange peanut.
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I think he said he wanted an orange peanut.
And cake right now.
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YMT, although it is sometimes hard to tell with me, I was serious in suggesting you attend the T2-Only. Although I sometime find it hard to tell with you, I hope you are actually considering it.
2.) My presence would be a blast because I have never played Type 2, and have only judged a couple games (of course I referred all questions to Josh Kopp). Therefore I would be fodder for the pros. ;)
There is another long-standing T2-Only tradition. Every year Craig (Count Fount) Fountain lends one of his decks to another player who doesn't have one. Every year the good Count ends up playing against and losing to his deck. As far as I can tell, no amount of inexperience can overcome the Count's inability to win.
One thing, though, prepare some snappy table talk for the T2-multi games. We need to keep up the chatter to prevent Craig from dozing off.
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YMT, although it is sometimes hard to tell with me, I was serious in suggesting you attend the T2-Only. Although I sometime find it hard to tell with you, I hope you are actually considering it.
I have indeed considered it, but I'm afraid I will not be able to attend. The entire trip would still cost me close to $200 (even with help from Wild Bill). I could buy a couple weeks worth of groceries with that money, so I need to be aware of my priorities during these tough economic times. If I were single without kids, things would be different. :-\
Perhaps there will come a time that I can visit MN with my whole family during a vacation. I have relatives in Albert Lea that I have not seen in over 20 years! :o
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Need I say where Nats should be?
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In my basement?
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In my basement?
Does your basement have a bathroom?
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No, but there are plenty of woods behind my house.
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No, but there are plenty of woods behind my house.
Are there at least any shrubberies in your basement?
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I can make arrangements.
Nats confirmed: MKC's basement. Bring your own toilet paper.
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Actually, I had our barn in mind. We could clean it some, and then you don't even need to worry about restrooms, and you don't need woods.
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Sorry to bring this back on topic (I know you are having a lot of fun). Does anyone actually know wherre nats is going to be?
OK, you can get off topic again ;D
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Does anyone actually know wherre nats is going to be?
No.
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we don't usually know till at least April do we?