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Title: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 05, 2014, 02:01:32 PM
Calling all Type 2 players within 15 hours driving distance of MN or willing to fly in. Best tune up for National. Type 2 is a lot of fun right now. No dominant deck type, lots of options for good decks. It’s cold now on Minnesota but by March 1, it will be plenty warm. In fact the elders at North Heights will be out sun bathing by then so bring your speedo.

Details for Type 2 Only
Redemption Tournament February 28- March 1, 2014
Location:  North Heights Lutheran Church
 Arden Hills- Great Hall
 1700 W. Highway 96
 Arden Hills, MN   55112

Lodging:  Stay overnight in the church on Friday night, doors open at 6:00pm.
Money is available to help with traveling expenses for anyone traveling from outside the great state of Minnesota.  The last couple years we have had a number of people fly in.
Cost:  Free
Pizza, pop, etc… will be available for purchase.

Tentative schedule:
Friday:  7:00    Type 2-Multiplayer (2-3 rounds depends on numbers and how late everybody wants to play)
Other games will be available to play (bring your favorite).
After Multi is over we will play some specialty category to be determined. Of course there is always a Perkins Run.
 
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Specialty Category: Type Minnesota

--Cost: $12 (we could also go $15 and include Womens packs if everyone was interested)
--Traditional Booster using the following packs: Unlimited, Prophets, Apostles, Patriarchs, Kings, Priests, TexP, Disciples, (Women TBD)
--Tables of 4 or 5 for drafting (want to avoid tables of 3).
--Order of opening packs will be chosen at random prior to the draft.
--Two cards will be drafted at a time.
--Upon completion of draft, players are then paired up randomly and may begin building their decks.
--Players may trade with their first round opponent.
--Each player may choose up to 3 of the following dominants to add to their deck: Angel of the Lord, Harvest Time, Christian Martyr, Vain Philosophy, Strife, Doubt (players will need to provide their own dominants and dominants cannot be traded). If a dominant is drafted, it CAN be used but there is still a 3 dominant limit. (If your name is Craig, you don't get any dominants)
--One single-color Site of any brigade per deck.
--Although this is not an official category we recommend that all decks be sleeved.
--Number of rounds to be determined by number of players.
--Experience credit rule will be used.
--Rescuer's choice rule will be used.
--Name on name bonus will be used.
--Duplicate rules for regular Booster Draft apply

 8:00-8:30   Breakfast for those staying overnight
 8:30-9:00    Registration and deck check in
 9:00-6:00   Type 2-2 player  6 rounds (5 was too few, 7 was too many so 6 it will be)

We will be having an Ironman Tournament on Saturday for those in attendance not playing Type 2. Winner will receive prizes.

Besides normal prizes for a local tournament; 1, 2 & 3rd place winners of Type 2-2 player and Type-2 Multiplayer will get a chance to a special prize. 1st place in each category will get three chances, 2nd place two chances and 3rd place one chance. So if you won Type 2-2 player and placed 3rd in Type- Multiplayer, you would have a 4 in 12 chance to win the new cards.

If you are planning on staying overnight send me a PM so we can plan for you.
Any questions contact  Bill Voigt (everytribe)

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheHobbit13 on January 05, 2014, 03:18:55 PM
In fact the elders at North Heights will be out sun bathing by then so bring your speedo.


This will also be the last Type 2 Only.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: DJWeb on January 05, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
How do you play Ironman? What time would that be at?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 05, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Ironman is a type one two player tournament. You play as many games as you can and the winner is the one with the most wins. It would start on Saturday at 9:00am.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 05, 2014, 06:33:06 PM
Who is the reigning Type 2 Multi Champ- peen?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Alex_Olijar on January 05, 2014, 06:36:47 PM
They didn't play the category last year
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 05, 2014, 06:49:59 PM
They didn't play the category last year

EXACTLY!!! I'm stillllllllll the reigning champ..
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: browarod on January 05, 2014, 07:00:10 PM
I am planning to attend this illustrious event, and I'll be dragging cg25 along with me (prolly strapped to the roof rack :P).

Any suggestions for a first-timer to this event? ;)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 05, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
I am planning to attend this illustrious event, and I'll be dragging cg25 along with me (prolly strapped to the roof rack :P).

Any suggestions for a first-timer to this event? ;)

Suck up to Wild Bill, otherwise he pairs you with a past Nat Champ in the first round...
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 05, 2014, 07:58:00 PM
CountFount since your spamming, I mean posting on this thread I am assuming that you will be in attendance. I will reserve your suite.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: pilgrim14 on January 05, 2014, 08:00:26 PM
I'm pretty much a first timer to t2, so if I come to this tourny will I be destroyed by more experienced players?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 05, 2014, 08:11:41 PM
The best part of the tournament is that you get to play alot of games. There will be alot of good players but there is also a number of new player. You will get to see what others are using so this will help you get ready for future Type 2 tournaments tournaments. It is also like a mini nationals because you get to hang out with alot of neat people that you wouldn't normally see at a local tournament.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 05, 2014, 08:51:21 PM
In other words what Everytribe, is trying to say is...and I speak from experience...this will be the most fun you will have getting slaughtered that you have ever had.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: christiangamer25 on January 06, 2014, 02:13:01 AM
I am planning to attend this illustrious event, and I'll be dragging cg25 along with me (prolly strapped to the roof rack :P).

Any suggestions for a first-timer to this event? ;)

pfft strapped to the roof haha good luck lifting me up there

also planning to stay overnight at church for at least friday night up to scott what happens saturday lol
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Nameless on January 06, 2014, 08:14:23 AM
Looks like I have to try and build a T2 deck.  :P
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on January 06, 2014, 11:46:07 AM
Will I be there? Yes! *Round of applause*
Will I bring a Speedo? No! *Round of thunderous applause*

Who is the reigning Type 2 Multi Champ- peen?

I actually have no idea. I think it may be a repressed memory. I know I took second, but to whom? Not a clue.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 06, 2014, 12:03:08 PM
Will I be there? Yes! *Round of applause*
Will I bring a Speedo? No! *Round of thunderous applause*

Who is the reigning Type 2 Multi Champ- peen?

I actually have no idea. I think it may be a repressed memory. I know I took second, but to whom? Not a clue.

I can't recall who was second....EVERYONE WAS SO FAR IN MY REAR VIEW MIRROR I COULD NOT DISTINGUISH ONE LOSER FROM ANOTHER. Geritol Rules!
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 08, 2014, 12:58:09 AM
Just a heads up, Bill and I wanted to get a head start to save time on Friday night so we started doing pairings for Round 1. Count will be at a table with myself, Jordan and Jayden. This was of course determined in a completely random process...  ::)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: christiangamer25 on January 08, 2014, 03:13:40 AM
lol
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 08, 2014, 06:19:59 AM
Just a heads up, Bill and I wanted to get a head start to save time on Friday night so we started doing pairings for Round 1. Count will be at a table with myself, Jordan and Jayden. This was of course determined in a completely random process...  ::)
The triple A club...that's okay, I stopped bathing 2 months ago in anticipation of that move. BRING IT!!
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 08, 2014, 06:49:39 PM
Just a heads up, Bill and I wanted to get a head start to save time on Friday night so we started doing pairings for Round 1. Count will be at a table with myself, Jordan and Jayden. This was of course determined in a completely random process...  ::)
The triple A club...that's okay, I stopped bathing 2 months ago in anticipation of that move. BRING IT!!

In anticipation of that move I also reserved the Gym so CountFount and his opponents could play in the Gym and the rest of us could play in the Great Hall.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 08, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Just a heads up, Bill and I wanted to get a head start to save time on Friday night so we started doing pairings for Round 1. Count will be at a table with myself, Jordan and Jayden. This was of course determined in a completely random process...  ::)
The triple A club...that's okay, I stopped bathing 2 months ago in anticipation of that move. BRING IT!!

In anticipation of that move I also reserved the Gym so CountFount and his opponents could play in the Gym and the rest of us could play in the Great Hall.

Bring your box of tissues boys! Eyes will be bleeding. :)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: jbeers285 on January 08, 2014, 10:34:24 PM
One of these years I'll get there but with that being less then a month from the due date of my first child I should probably stay in PA

Wish I could be there but have fun :-)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Platinum_Angel on January 08, 2014, 11:47:27 PM
....starting to think its just a dream to go... :'(
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on January 09, 2014, 11:37:04 AM
One of these years I'll get there but with that being less then a month from the due date of my first child I should probably stay in PA

Wish I could be there but have fun :-)

Man, where ARE your priorities? Babies rarely if ever come earlier than the due date, and besides, I'm sure your wife would be just fine if you missed out on the birth of your first child because of a Redemption tournament. It is, after all, the T2 only...

Bring your box of tissues boys! Eyes will be bleeding. :)

I thought you said you were just not going to bathe...does this mean you will also be showing up in a speedo?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 09, 2014, 12:36:39 PM
One of these years I'll get there but with that being less then a month from the due date of my first child I should probably stay in PA

Wish I could be there but have fun :-)

Man, where ARE your priorities? Babies rarely if ever come earlier than the due date, and besides, I'm sure your wife would be just fine if you missed out on the birth of your first child because of a Redemption tournament. It is, after all, the T2 only...

Bring your box of tissues boys! Eyes will be bleeding. :)

I thought you said you were just not going to bathe...does this mean you will also be showing up in a speedo?

I am a new Count. No Speedo...thong
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheHobbit13 on January 09, 2014, 12:44:57 PM
I am a new Count. No Speedo...thong

Flip flops?  :prayer:
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 09, 2014, 12:46:35 PM
I am a new Count. No Speedo...thong

Flip flops?  :prayer:

Only for you
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 20, 2014, 09:51:49 AM
I think for the special category we might try a two player booster draft. You would draft on a table of 4 and then play 2 player for the rest of the tournament. And we can try a quick look after every pack is opened.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: christiangamer25 on January 20, 2014, 10:34:13 AM
depends on cost of the boosters etc cause im gonna be tight on money does sound fun though
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheHobbit13 on January 20, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
Maybe we could do a double elimination type 1 tourney that night as an alternative to those who are not interested in booster.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on January 20, 2014, 12:17:41 PM
I think for the special category we might try a two player booster draft. You would draft on a table of 4 and then play 2 player for the rest of the tournament. And we can try a quick look after every pack is opened.

Any thoughts?
T2 Booster or T1?

Maybe we could do a double elimination type 1 tourney that night as an alternative to those who are not interested in booster.
Played CHAOS with the good Count, Count Jr., RedWarrior, one of RedWarrior's friends and JSB on Saturday.  A CHAOS tourney would be fun.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on January 20, 2014, 12:24:03 PM
I think for the special category we might try a two player booster draft. You would draft on a table of 4 and then play 2 player for the rest of the tournament. And we can try a quick look after every pack is opened.

Any thoughts?
T2 Booster or T1?

We had discussed T1, as T2 Booster runs a bit long for most people.

Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: christiangamer25 on January 20, 2014, 12:37:46 PM
t2 booster would be preferred by me
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 20, 2014, 01:03:58 PM
In the interest of being able to play more people, I agree with doing T1 Booster. I know it's the T2 Only, but we'll be playing plenty of T2.  Paying the money that would be required for a T2 booster and then only having time to play one or two rounds (as I doubt everyone will want to pull an all-nighter) wouldn't be much fun.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 20, 2014, 01:30:33 PM
Chances are in favor of me being there and if I had an A game I'd bring but I kinda make up the "A" game so no worries there. You might as well reserve my bubble bath and non-alcoholic sparkling pear juice (considering it's a church, well, the church I attend specifically, I figure champagne is not a great idea).

Also, I agree with El Guardián, T1 would be more cost-efficient and more spread out. I mean, what's the point of calling it the "Type 2 Only" if we're not going to include more Type 1 than just Ironman?

@Count, ya know, we don't have to look at you to beat you, only your cards. So if you really want to win then you'll have to replace the pictures on each card with a picture of you in your flip-flops.  ;)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 20, 2014, 01:47:15 PM
Chances are in favor of me being there and if I had an A game I'd bring but I kinda make up the "A" game so no worries there. You might as well reserve my bubble bath and non-alcoholic sparkling pear juice (considering it's a church, well, the church I attend specifically, I figure champagne is not a great idea).

Also, I agree with El Guardián, T1 would be more cost-efficient and more spread out. I mean, what's the point of calling it the "Type 2 Only" if we're not going to include more Type 1 than just Ironman?

@Count, ya know, we don't have to look at you to beat you, only your cards. So if you really want to win then you'll have to replace the pictures on each card with a picture of you in your flip-flops.  ;)

QueenKoala I put on another 20 pounds. I'm planning on falling on you first time I get a chance
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 20, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
Just go for his hair...that's his weak spot...kinda like Samson  ::)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheHobbit13 on January 20, 2014, 02:21:36 PM
Maybe we could do a double elimination type 1 tourney that night as an alternative to those who are not interested in booster.
Played CHAOS with the good Count, Count Jr., RedWarrior, one of RedWarrior's friends and JSB on Saturday.  A CHAOS tourney would be fun.

What is CHAOS?

I just threw out the option of type 1 tourney because not everyone likes booster wants to pay/play it. I am sure there will be plenty of other things to do if you don't want to do booster. There is always the option of pick up type 1 games and then random board games people bring... And Perkins too I guess haha. I don't want to take anybody away from Justin's booster idea so I'll crunch some numbers, look at my schedule, and respectfully retract  the type 1 tourney idea. 
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on January 20, 2014, 02:37:12 PM
What is CHAOS?
Everyone brings a T1 deck and mixes them together in a pile. Everyone draws off this common pile and plays T1 multi-player.

There is a shared land of bondage.
As T2 players we would probably want to require balanced decks.
If you played in tables of four you could let the three non-current players decide who gets to block each turn.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 20, 2014, 03:08:27 PM
What is CHAOS?
Everyone brings a T1 deck and mixes them together in a pile. Everyone draws off this common pile and plays T1 multi-player.

There is a shared land of bondage.
As T2 players we would probably want to require balanced decks.
If you played in tables of four you could let the three non-current players decide who gets to block each turn.

One of the un written rules to chaos since I created it is I'm the only judge. And the rulings don't have to make sense. By the way if you are an elder you are already down one lost soul. If you're from Iowa you're down two.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheHobbit13 on January 20, 2014, 03:11:28 PM
That sounds really fun lets do it.


The only thing I am concerned with is matching colors... I mean if people have 4 different deck strategies it might be hard to get anything going on attack or defense. Was that a problem when you played it? That randomness of brigade might be part of the fun, not sure. What if we said brigades don't matter but identifiers do. So I could play Samuel's Edict on any character but it wouldn't always be cbn.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 20, 2014, 04:29:20 PM
Chances are in favor of me being there and if I had an A game I'd bring but I kinda make up the "A" game so no worries there. You might as well reserve my bubble bath and non-alcoholic sparkling pear juice (considering it's a church, well, the church I attend specifically, I figure champagne is not a great idea).

Also, I agree with El Guardián, T1 would be more cost-efficient and more spread out. I mean, what's the point of calling it the "Type 2 Only" if we're not going to include more Type 1 than just Ironman?

@Count, ya know, we don't have to look at you to beat you, only your cards. So if you really want to win then you'll have to replace the pictures on each card with a picture of you in your flip-flops.  ;)

QueenKoala I put on another 20 pounds. I'm planning on falling on you first time I get a chance
I could trip you instead. That might be a quicker way to go about things as you won't have to think about the best way to do it. Plus, I'll know when to jump out of the way.

Just go for his hair...that's his weak spot...kinda like Samson  ::)
That's just dirty... I'd probably end up calling Craig "Delilah" for the rest of the tourney and I'm not sure he'd appreciate that.  :P
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 20, 2014, 04:32:04 PM
Hey there Delilah...  8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on January 20, 2014, 04:36:07 PM
If you're from Iowa you're down two.

Isn't being from Iowa punishment enough?

/rimshot
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 20, 2014, 04:37:36 PM
Hey there Delilah...  8)
Perhaps I should bring my guitar... ::)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 20, 2014, 08:07:49 PM
CHAOS sounds like fun.

If we do booster it would only cost 10 dollars. All the packs plus disciples and treasures. Draft with 4 play 2 player. We can call it Type 2 Booster Draft with the 2 standing for 2 player.

Don't forget we have to leave some time for the battle of the bands. So far we have:

Billy Bang and the Explosives
Cindy and the Alstads
The Hot Timaly Band
Koala Queen
CHAOS (Craig-Lead Singer, Matt on the drums, Josh-Lead Guitar. Its a Grunge Band)

Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: DJWeb on January 20, 2014, 08:53:04 PM
Would I be able to do Booster if I had never played Type 2? I probably don't have enough cards to make a type 2 deck so would this be a good way to start playing Type 2?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 20, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
Would I be able to do Booster if I had never played Type 2? I probably don't have enough cards to make a type 2 deck so would this be a good way to start playing Type 2?
"Type 2 Booster" as he called it, is actually T1. If you've played booster draft then you know that it's usually played with 3 or 4 players but what has been suggested is that we play T1 booster draft with 2 players after drafting with the usual 4. You can certainly play booster without having played Type 2 because it's not actually Type 2. :P It was suggested earlier that we do an actual Type 2 Booster Draft but that would be costly and lengthy. The Type 2 Only would be a good way to start getting you going on the Type 2 train as you can see what decks are being played and you can also participate in the Ironman tournament which is Type 1.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Nameless on January 21, 2014, 06:08:33 PM
Would I be able to do Booster if I had never played Type 2? I probably don't have enough cards to make a type 2 deck so would this be a good way to start playing Type 2?
If you wanted to learn how to play T2, there would be some of the Greats there who could show you some things, and lend you a deck to play in the tournament.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 22, 2014, 07:41:53 PM
Here's my proposal for the 2P Booster event:

--Cost: $12
--Traditional Booster using the following packs: Unlimited, Prophets, Apostles, Patriarchs, Kings, Priests, TexP, Disciples.
--Tables of 4 or 5 for drafting (would like to avoid tables of 3).
--Order of opening packs is chosen at random.
--Players are then paired up randomly and may being building their decks.
--Players may trade with their first round opponent.
--Each player may choose up to 3 of the following dominants to add to their deck: Angel of the Lord, Harvest Time, Christian Martyr, Vain Philosophy, Strife, Doubt (players will need to provide their own dominants and dominants cannot be traded). (If your name is Craig, you don't get any dominants)
--One single-color Site of any brigade per deck.
--All decks must be sleeved
--Number of rounds to be determined by number of players
--Experience credit rule will be used
--Rescuer's choice rule will be used

Any thoughts, questions or suggestions?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 22, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
Here's my proposal for the 2P Booster event:

--Cost: $12
--Traditional Booster using the following packs: Unlimited, Prophets, Apostles, Patriarchs, Kings, Priests, TexP, Disciples.
--Tables of 4 or 5 for drafting (would like to avoid tables of 3).
--Order of opening packs is chosen at random.
--Players are then paired up randomly and may being building their decks.
--Players may trade with their first round opponent.
--Each player may choose up to 3 of the following dominants to add to their deck: Son of God, Angel of the Lord, Harvest Time, Christian Martyr, Burial, Vain Philosophy, Strife (players will need to provide their own dominants and dominants cannot be traded). (If your name is Craig, you don't get any dominants)
--One single-color Site of any brigade per deck.
--All decks must be sleeved
--Number of rounds to be determined by number of players

Any thoughts, questions or suggestions?
Looks good to me. Although, do we really need the doms? Are these just to speed up the games? Also, I think Bill said it'd be $10 but I don't mind throwing in the extra couple bucks if that's how ya'll wants ta do it.

CHAOS sounds like fun.

If we do booster it would only cost 10 dollars. All the packs plus disciples and treasures. Draft with 4 play 2 player. We can call it Type 2 Booster Draft with the 2 standing for 2 player.

Don't forget we have to leave some time for the battle of the bands. So far we have:

Billy Bang and the Explosives
Cindy and the Alstads
The Hot Timaly Band
Koala Queen
CHAOS (Craig-Lead Singer, Matt on the drums, Josh-Lead Guitar. Its a Grunge Band)


Yeah, Koala QUEEN be preforming:
"We Will Rock You" (before multi-player)
"Another One Bites the Dust" (in between rounds)
"We the Champions" (after multi-player)
"Friends Will Be Friends" (for Matt, Craig, and Bill)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: christiangamer25 on January 23, 2014, 12:04:40 AM
haha no way the only queen song your gonna be playing is im going slightly mad
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 12:07:39 AM
I put $12 so Bill can at least cover costs on the packs since it's a fun event. I would even be willing to donate the Unlimited packs.

Yeah the doms are for a couple reasons; to speed up the game like you mentioned and also to give players a chance in case someone drafts a ridiculous combo (Nero/HHI). That way they have a way around it (would guess that most people will use AotL) and don't just get "stuck" for the entire game.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 12:12:46 AM
It has been suggested that perhaps since it is a "T2" event, that everyone would draft two cards at a time, I think this would be a fun variant to try.

What are people's thoughts on trading with the first round opponent? I think it will make decks stronger overall to make for more competitive games, but could it potentially give too much of an advantage to some players?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 23, 2014, 12:16:46 AM
haha no way the only queen song your gonna be playing is im going slightly mad
Key word: "slightly".

I put $12 so Bill can at least cover costs on the packs since it's a fun event. I would even be willing to donate the Unlimited packs.

Yeah the doms are for a couple reasons; to speed up the game like you mentioned and also to give players a chance in case someone drafts a ridiculous combo (Nero/HHI). That way they have a way around it (would guess that most people will use AotL) and don't just get "stuck" for the entire game.
Makes sense. I'm down.

It has been suggested that perhaps since it is a "T2" event, that everyone would draft two cards at a time, I think this would be a fun variant to try.

What are people's thoughts on trading with the first round opponent? I think it will make decks stronger overall to make for more competitive games, but could it potentially give too much of an advantage to some players?
I like 'em both. Lez doit.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 12:17:24 AM
Another option would be to not include Son of God and Burial on the Dom list and play games to 4 LS.

Doms list:
Angel
Christian Martyr
Strife
Vain Philosophy
Harvest Time
Doubt

Assuming most people use Angel and Martyr, that third dominant choice could be key.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on January 23, 2014, 08:07:05 AM
--One single-color Site of any brigade per deck.
Why add this limit (since it is not a standard booster rule)? Not questioning you, just curious.

Quote
Any thoughts, questions or suggestions?
As a "T2" event you may want to consider using all three of the optional rules (name on name, rescuer's choice, experience credit).
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on January 23, 2014, 10:41:22 AM
I'd say no addition of doms, just to keep it close to true Booster draft as possible. Offenses in Booster are almost always better than defense (just the way the cards fall) so I don't think there will be too much trouble with keeping games going.

I'm fine with trading, though it might be kind of tricky, since people don't always know right away which cards they will add to their deck, unlike sealed deck. It would also make the deck-building phase take awhile. But if we can figure out a good way to do it, I'm alright with it.

I very much agree with the site limit. All it would take is for a player to get three sites of colors that their opponent doesn't have (or doesn't have strong Heroes in) for there to be lockout.

I also agree with the experience credit and rescuer's choice ideas. Not that Rescuer's choice will likely matter a whole lot, but it will in some cases. Experience credit will be great in BD though.

Everything else looks good. How did you envision the "trading" period working Justin?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 23, 2014, 12:30:07 PM
I 2 like:
2 of the Optional rules
2 doms
Draft 2 at a time
Limit 2 sites
Trade up to 2 cards
$12 would cover
62 card min deck
min 20 evil cards
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 23, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
I'd say no addition of doms, just to keep it close to true Booster draft as possible. Offenses in Booster are almost always better than defense (just the way the cards fall) so I don't think there will be too much trouble with keeping games going.

I'm fine with trading, though it might be kind of tricky, since people don't always know right away which cards they will add to their deck, unlike sealed deck. It would also make the deck-building phase take awhile. But if we can figure out a good way to do it, I'm alright with it.

I very much agree with the site limit. All it would take is for a player to get three sites of colors that their opponent doesn't have (or doesn't have strong Heroes in) for there to be lockout.

I also agree with the experience credit and rescuer's choice ideas. Not that Rescuer's choice will likely matter a whole lot, but it will in some cases. Experience credit will be great in BD though.

Everything else looks good. How did you envision the "trading" period working Justin?
I see Jordan's point on the Doms. Especially since pretty much everyone would be using AotL and CM, chances are that's one free rescue and one free block and if everyone has them they'd tend to cancel out and then they'd be a couple wasted cards, so to speak.

Perhaps for trading we could make a limit of each player can only trade up to 5 cards. That way people won't spend a whole lot of time making huge deals with each other and if your draft well then there shouldn't be too many cards that you'd be eager to trade anyway. Mostly just the ones that you get at the end of a drafted pack that you don't get a choice in getting. I can't think of anything else more effective because like you said, people won't know what they want/want to trade but perhaps Justin will think of something.

Yeah, I agree with site limit reasoning. While we aren't playing with Womens or Angel Wars I'm sure sites will still be fairly popular and lock out games aren't much fun.

Experience credit would be awesome! Rescuer's choice would be fun too.

Also, do you think we'd have the normal time limit of 45 mins or would we maybe go to an hour? Perhaps we should mix up a bunch of cards and do a mock 2P Booster Draft to see how it goes, eh?

I 2 like:
Optional rules
2 less than 2 doms
Draft 2 at a time
Limit 2 sites
Trade up to 2 cards
$12 would cover
FTFY
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 01:45:43 PM
I still think the Doms will make for a better game. Unlike Sealed deck (which typically gives players at least one banding option) or regular Booster draft (where a player can simply attack a different player), a player could easily run into an EC like Nero and have zero options for the entire game. I realize that most people will choose AotL and CM, but the choice of that third dominant will be very important I believe.

Keep in mind this format is a combination of Booster, Sealed and T1 2P--it is not strictly just Booster.

I would say we could do a 15 minute period for building decks and then a 5-10 minute period for trading/revising decks. What I envisioned with the trading piece was that if a player drafted a great character or enhancement, but nothing to match with it, then maybe the other player would be able to use it, and can trade something the first player can use. Players are not obligated to trade. I assume this will mostly be experienced players who know what are fair trades and what aren't but perhaps we can evaluate that when we see who all signs up to play.

I think keeping it to 1 site would be best, unless we say the minimum deck size is 60 w/ 8 LS.

I love the ideas of doing Rescuer's Choice and Experience Credit.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheHobbit13 on January 23, 2014, 02:14:57 PM
We could just "ignore" immunity texts for the entire event. That way Angel and CM isn't all that necessary and Nero and POTW are still good because of there numbers but are not broken in this format.


I like the idea of a higher deck size and maybe requiring good and evil to be balanced would make for better games. After all this is the type 2 only.

Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 23, 2014, 02:24:55 PM
We could just "ignore" immunity texts for the entire event. That way Angel and CM isn't all that necessary and Nero and POTW are still good because of there numbers but are not broken in this format.


I like the idea of a higher deck size and maybe requiring good and evil to be balanced would make for better games. After all this is the type 2 only.

Meh, I kinda like the immune abilities but I guess if that's what we have to do...

I don't think balanced would work out too well unless we changed up the way we drafted or something. Bigger deck size I wouldn't be against though.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 02:34:28 PM
Exactly balanced decks would be tough. Would most people support doing minimum deck size of 60?

I think it would be easier to just include a couple dominants than start changing immunity rules.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on January 23, 2014, 02:42:19 PM
I love the ideas of doing Rescuer's Choice and Experience Credit.
Deep (not so) dark secret time...
A few years back when I hosted Regionals, I was going to use all three of the optional rules in T1-2P.

Deeper (but less) dark secret time...
Wild Bill was the one who talked me out of it.

Who is the wild one now-huh?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
I think it just shows that deep down, you are a true T2 player.  8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 23, 2014, 05:12:24 PM
I like 62 card decks
and everybody using 2 doms Angel and CM that way you could at least get ride of one nasty hero or evil character.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 05:36:26 PM
As much as I like the "2" theme, I think it will be really fun to allow people to choose that one extra dominant. I feel like Harvest Time, Doubt, Strife and Vain Philosophy are all legitimate choices and if played at the right time will lead to a successful rescue or block.

 8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 23, 2014, 05:46:25 PM
As much as I like the "2" theme, I think it will be really fun to allow people to choose that one extra dominant. I feel like Harvest Time, Doubt, Strife and Vain Philosophy are all legitimate choices and if played at the right time will lead to a successful rescue or block.

 8)
So are we changing this to Type 3 then? :P
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
Since there's already a "Type 3" that has been created I was trying to think of other names. I haven't come up with a good one yet but I'm open to suggestions.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: christiangamer25 on January 23, 2014, 07:52:54 PM
type minnesota
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on January 23, 2014, 08:00:59 PM
type minnesota


Hmm, I'll still take suggestions, but we might just have a winner...perhaps this will be announced at the T2 Only.

 8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 23, 2014, 08:23:31 PM
type minnesota


Hmm, I'll still take suggestions, but we might just have a winner...perhaps this will be announced at the T2 Only.

 8)
Type Southern Canada
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 23, 2014, 09:44:41 PM
type minnesota


Hmm, I'll still take suggestions, but we might just have a winner...perhaps this will be announced at the T2 Only.

 8)
Type Southern Canada
Type CoolerThanKansas.

I like it because "Cooler" is a pun.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on January 24, 2014, 09:25:25 AM
Type CoolerThanKansasMissouri.

I like it because "Cooler" is a pun.

MN is cooler than Kansas (in all respects) but it is, more importantly for this digression, also cooler than Missouri.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 24, 2014, 09:40:16 AM
Type CoolerThanKansasMissouri.

I like it because "Cooler" is a pun.

MN is cooler than Kansas (in all respects) but it is, more importantly for this digression, also cooler than Missouri.

And that is why you are the Prof. You have a working knowledge of Geography. Did you save any brains for the others in your family? or were they all adopted from the Streets of Wisconsin.  ::)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: browarod on January 24, 2014, 09:47:16 AM
Type CoolerThanKansasMissouri.

I like it because "Cooler" is a pun.

MN is cooler than Kansas (in all respects) but it is, more importantly for this digression, also cooler than Missouri.

And that is why you are the Prof. You have a working knowledge of Geography. Did you save any brains for the others in your family? or were they all adopted from the Streets of Wisconsin.  ::)
Being a Wisconsinite, I can't tell if I should be offended because you're suggesting we lack brains, or proud because you think they DO have brains and they got them from here. :P
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 24, 2014, 10:31:35 AM
Type CoolerThanKansasMissouri.

I like it because "Cooler" is a pun.

MN is cooler than Kansas (in all respects) but it is, more importantly for this digression, also cooler than Missouri.

And that is why you are the Prof. You have a working knowledge of Geography. Did you save any brains for the others in your family? or were they all adopted from the Streets of Wisconsin.  ::)
Being a Wisconsinite, I can't tell if I should be offended because you're suggesting we lack brains, or proud because you think they DO have brains and they got them from here. :P
Hmmm, I really don't know what to say. :)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on January 24, 2014, 10:39:32 AM
And that is why you are the Prof. You have a working knowledge of Geography. Did you save any brains for the others in your family? or were they all adopted from the Streets of Wisconsin.  ::)

The only member of my family that was born in that state has had all of her formal education in Minnesota, so I think we're okay. It was merely a momentary lapse in judgment from my very bright sibling that led him to assume that all Kansas Citians are from Kansas.

Being a Wisconsinite, I can't tell if I should be offended because you're suggesting we lack brains, or proud because you think they DO have brains and they got them from here. :P

You should be offended by the mere fact that you are a Wisconsinite... ;)

*And the Count throws an 85 mph fastball right over the plate*

Hmmm, I really don't know what to say. :)

I find that is generally true.  :)

*And the Prof hits it out of the park!!!*
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: browarod on January 24, 2014, 10:45:57 AM
Being a Wisconsinite, I can't tell if I should be offended because you're suggesting we lack brains, or proud because you think they DO have brains and they got them from here. :P
You should be offended by the mere fact that you are a Wisconsinite... ;)
If MN is so great, why did my roommates move to WI from there for school and general adult life? :P

I will admit, they are going back to MN to get married in May (I'll actually be in the general vicinity of you guys I believe, ironically enough).
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheHobbit13 on January 24, 2014, 10:48:43 AM
Hmm, I'll still take suggestions, but we might just have a winner...perhaps this will be announced at the T2 Only.
Type Southern Canada

Anchorman: An Astute Observation has Led to Laughter! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnZIGph965g#ws)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on January 24, 2014, 11:04:39 AM
Type CoolerThanKansasMissouri.

I like it because "Cooler" is a pun.

MN is cooler than Kansas (in all respects) but it is, more importantly for this digression, also cooler than Missouri.
I've heard it both ways.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on January 24, 2014, 01:18:19 PM
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2Fo0nubl.jpg&hash=b218abc3f8b5eb4824a248dc75a1b075ff4e2a4f)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on January 24, 2014, 02:09:13 PM
And if you're wondering how we get around without functioning automobiles, we usually just have someone give us a push, then slide on the icy streets until we crash into our destination.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on January 24, 2014, 06:50:41 PM
Hmmm, I really don't know what to say. :)
I find that is generally true.  :)
*And the Prof hits it out of the park!!!*
Count Fount does his talking on the Type 2 Multi player Top Table (I got your back)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on January 24, 2014, 07:00:26 PM
Hmmm, I really don't know what to say. :)
I find that is generally true.  :)
*And the Prof hits it out of the park!!!*
Count Fount does his talking on the Type 2 Multi player Top Table (I got your back)
Thank you Bill for your support. You know how sensitive I am.  :'(
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 02, 2014, 01:50:48 PM
There was a disheartening deficit of Nazareth's at the tournament yesterday...need I remind you all what happened last time Count was able to run amock unimpeded by Nazareth...let's get this rectified folks.  8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on February 02, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
There was a disheartening deficit of Nazareth's at the tournament yesterday...need I remind you all what happened last time Count was able to run amock unimpeded by Nazareth...let's get this rectified folks.  8)

ANB ANB ANB ANB
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on February 02, 2014, 03:21:48 PM
There was a disheartening deficit of Nazareth's at the tournament yesterday...need I remind you all what happened last time Count was able to run amock unimpeded by Nazareth...let's get this rectified folks.  8)
That's because everybody wants to be able to search. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on February 02, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
There was a disheartening deficit of Nazareth's at the tournament yesterday...need I remind you all what happened last time Count was able to run amock unimpeded by Nazareth...let's get this rectified folks.  8)
That's because everybody wants to be able to search. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
So if I use both do I get to eat YOUR cake?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Red on February 02, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
There was a disheartening deficit of Nazareth's at the tournament yesterday...need I remind you all what happened last time Count was able to run amock unimpeded by Nazareth...let's get this rectified folks.  8)
Isaiah can have some fun.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on February 02, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
We will be having an Ironman Tournament on Saturday for those in attendance not playing Type 2. Winner will receive prizes.
Does this mean that those playing Type 2 can't play Ironman as well?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Mageduckey on February 03, 2014, 12:53:05 PM

 there would be some of the Greats there who could show you some things, and lend you a deck to play in the tournament.

I've been away for a while, but I think I'll be getting back into the swing of things, and I would love to come to this tournament.  However, I donated all my cards and don't plan on restocking since it'll be the first tournament I've been to in years (and the only one I plan to attend).  Might there be someone who would let me borrow from their collection to build a deck of my own for the tournament?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 03, 2014, 01:11:09 PM
I have a deck I could lend you. It's slightly geared towards Multi-player, but I think it would be fine for 2P also (I could maybe swap out a few cards I put in there with MP in mind). Are you planning to come for T2 MP on Friday night or just the 2P event on Saturday?

Only condition is that you can't beat me if we play each other  ;)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Mageduckey on February 03, 2014, 01:54:34 PM
If I get to come, I'll be there Friday night.  Would it be possible for me to get a copy of the decklist?  I'd like to be familiar with it before the tournament :p
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 03, 2014, 02:41:59 PM
PM sent.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on February 04, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
We will be having an Ironman Tournament on Saturday for those in attendance not playing Type 2. Winner will receive prizes.
Does this mean that those playing Type 2 can't play Ironman as well?

No anybody can play Ironman. In fact Nobody can even play. Its a little harder to fit in alot of games if you are also playing type 2.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on February 04, 2014, 07:22:10 PM
We will be having an Ironman Tournament on Saturday for those in attendance not playing Type 2. Winner will receive prizes.
Does this mean that those playing Type 2 can't play Ironman as well?

No anybody can play Ironman. Its a little harder to fit in alot of games if you are also playing type 2.
Alright, cool.  8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on February 11, 2014, 06:58:08 PM
If anybody needs some of the hard to get cards for the type 2 only, let me know so that I can have them on hand. Thanks.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on February 11, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
If anybody needs some of the hard to get cards for the type 2 only, let me know so that I can have them on hand. Thanks.
For free, wow Thanks ! ;)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 11, 2014, 11:16:07 PM
If anybody needs some of the hard to get cards for the type 2 only, let me know so that I can have them on hand. Thanks.
For free, wow Thanks ! ;)

Count, you remember last year when I made some last minute suggestions for your MP deck and how well that worked for you? Here's some suggestions for this year:

Offense:
Strength in Weakness
Buckler (Unlimited)
Coat of Mail (Unlimited)
Bravery of David (Unlimited)

Defense:
Saul's Javelin (WA)
Boils (Unlimited)
Baal Worship

Bill has plenty of copies of all of those so don't worry if you don't have enough copies to get four of each of those in your deck.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on February 12, 2014, 08:15:44 PM
If anybody needs some of the hard to get cards for the type 2 only, let me know so that I can have them on hand. Thanks.
For free, wow Thanks ! ;)

Count, you remember last year when I made some last minute suggestions for your MP deck and how well that worked for you? Here's some suggestions for this year:

Offense:
Strength in Weakness
Buckler (Unlimited)
Coat of Mail (Unlimited)
Bravery of David (Unlimited)

Defense:
Saul's Javelin (WA)
Boils (Unlimited)
Baal Worship

Bill has plenty of copies of all of those so don't worry if you don't have enough copies to get four of each of those in your deck.

Remember CountFount I have your back. I could get you those cards the Guardian suggested for free. I thing his suggestions just might put you over the top again. (And not just because I will be playing multi player this year)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: DJWeb on February 14, 2014, 09:17:32 PM
Would there be someone willing to lend me an extra T2 deck for the 2 player on Saturday? I'm not in a position where I would like to acquire all those cards, but I would like to try T2 at least once before I go off to college.

How many games does Ironman usually involve or do have to stay real late for that? Are there sufficient breaks in T2 to give you a chance of winning Ironman? I've never played this category, is there anything else I need to know about it?

Thanks.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on February 14, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
Would there be someone willing to lend me an extra T2 deck for the 2 player on Saturday? I'm not in a position where I would like to acquire all those cards, but I would like to try T2 at least once before I go off to college.

How many games does Ironman usually involve or do have to stay real late for that? Are there sufficient breaks in T2 to give you a chance of winning Ironman? I've never played this category, is there anything else I need to know about it?

Thanks.
I'm sure that someone will be able to provide you with a deck, and if NO ONE else Craig (The Count of Founting) usually has a few extra decks that he's made (so they shouldn't be too hard to figure out for someone new to T2 ;)).

Ironman spans throughout all of Saturday and you can play as many games as you want (but the more you play the more likely it is for you to win games). Basically you start out with a certain number of tokens (we typically will use no SA souls) and if you lose than you give one to your winning opponent and vice versa. You shouldn't have to stay real late because it usually ends around the same time T2 will be done, or at least prizes are done at the same time.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: DJWeb on February 14, 2014, 11:13:14 PM
Would there be someone willing to lend me an extra T2 deck for the 2 player on Saturday? I'm not in a position where I would like to acquire all those cards, but I would like to try T2 at least once before I go off to college.

How many games does Ironman usually involve or do have to stay real late for that? Are there sufficient breaks in T2 to give you a chance of winning Ironman? I've never played this category, is there anything else I need to know about it?

Thanks.
I'm sure that someone will be able to provide you with a deck, and if NO ONE else Craig (The Count of Founting) usually has a few extra decks that he's made (so they shouldn't be too hard to figure out for someone new to T2 ;)).

Ironman spans throughout all of Saturday and you can play as many games as you want (but the more you play the more likely it is for you to win games). Basically you start out with a certain number of tokens (we typically will use no SA souls) and if you lose than you give one to your winning opponent and vice versa. You shouldn't have to stay real late because it usually ends around the same time T2 will be done, or at least prizes are done at the same time.

Alright, thank you.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 15, 2014, 10:05:33 AM
Would there be someone willing to lend me an extra T2 deck for the 2 player on Saturday? I'm not in a position where I would like to acquire all those cards, but I would like to try T2 at least once before I go off to college.

How many games does Ironman usually involve or do have to stay real late for that? Are there sufficient breaks in T2 to give you a chance of winning Ironman? I've never played this category, is there anything else I need to know about it?

Thanks.
I'm sure that someone will be able to provide you with a deck, and if NO ONE else Craig (The Count of Founting) usually has a few extra decks that he's made (so they shouldn't be too hard to figure out for someone new to T2 ;)).

Ironman spans throughout all of Saturday and you can play as many games as you want (but the more you play the more likely it is for you to win games). Basically you start out with a certain number of tokens (we typically will use no SA souls) and if you lose than you give one to your winning opponent and vice versa. You shouldn't have to stay real late because it usually ends around the same time T2 will be done, or at least prizes are done at the same time.

Alright, thank you.
It's actually not that bad.  One player went undefeated with a CountFount deck last year. The only person the decks don't seem to work for is CountFount himself. ;)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on February 15, 2014, 11:18:58 AM
Boy even Matt is turning on you. The Count is such a self sacrificing individual that he lets someone use his best deck. Remember CountFount I have your back. (My favorite game last year was the Counts 1-1 time out tie with Pat Wester, how could you have a 1-1 tie after 75 minutes)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 15, 2014, 04:55:15 PM
Boy even Matt is turning on you. The Count is such a self sacrificing individual that he lets someone use his best deck. Remember CountFount I have your back.
I wasn't turning on teh Count--I was simply explaining one of the quaint traditions of the tournament.  One of the Count's decks will finish higher in the 2-Player tournament than the Count will. The best was last year when JSB took one of the Count's decks that folks had spent an entire thread ridiculing on the boards, and piloted it to a 4-0 record.

Quote
(My favorite game last year was the Counts 1-1 time out tie with Pat Wester, how could you have a 1-1 tie after 75 minutes)
That's 'cause the both fell asleep shortly after the draw and napped until you woke them up for the score.  It's tough getting old, Wild Bill.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 19, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
Type Minnesota

--Cost: $12 (we could also go $15 and include Womens packs if everyone was interested)
--Traditional Booster using the following packs: Unlimited, Prophets, Apostles, Patriarchs, Kings, Priests, TexP, Disciples, (Women TBD)
--Tables of 4 or 5 for drafting (want to avoid tables of 3).
--Order of opening packs will be chosen at random prior to the draft.
--Two cards will be drafted at a time.
--Upon completion of draft, players are then paired up randomly and may begin building their decks.
--Players may trade with their first round opponent.
--Each player may choose up to 3 of the following dominants to add to their deck: Angel of the Lord, Harvest Time, Christian Martyr, Vain Philosophy, Strife, Doubt (players will need to provide their own dominants and dominants cannot be traded). If a dominant is drafted, it CAN be used but there is still a 3 dominant limit. (If your name is Craig, you don't get any dominants)
--One single-color Site of any brigade per deck.
--Although this is not an official category we recommend that all decks be sleeved.
--Number of rounds to be determined by number of players.
--Experience credit rule will be used.
--Rescuer's choice rule will be used.
--Name on name bonus will be used.
--Duplicate rules for regular Booster Draft apply

Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: pilgrim14 on February 19, 2014, 08:04:42 PM
I want to come and play t2, but my t2 deck is only partially completed. If possible can I borrow a deck from someone?
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 19, 2014, 08:06:54 PM
I want to come and play t2, but my t2 deck is only partially completed. If possible can I borrow a deck from someone?

I'm guessing there will be some extra decks available to borrow, but it's almost always more fun to use your own deck. How close are you to completing it? There will be lots of people there willing to trade cards you need (including myself).
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: pilgrim14 on February 20, 2014, 05:49:17 PM
I'm about 75/105 cards at this point. I need some rarer cards like Rubens torn clothes though, so I may have a little trouble finding them though.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: JSB23 on February 21, 2014, 12:22:08 AM
The best was last year when JSB took one of the Count's decks that folks had spent an entire thread ridiculing on the boards, and piloted it to a 4-0 record.

I can confirm. The entire thread was just people making fun of Count's deck.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 21, 2014, 02:19:20 AM
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/type-2-deck-advice/priests-and-persians/ (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/type-2-deck-advice/priests-and-persians/)

Now if only Count had been the one to use it, we could have been making fun of ProfA all year... ::)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 21, 2014, 07:58:54 AM
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/type-2-deck-advice/priests-and-persians/ (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/type-2-deck-advice/priests-and-persians/)

Now if only Count had been the one to use it, we could have been making fun of ProfA all year... ::)
For signature changing purposes, I still think it should have counted that in the head-to-head matchup Priests & Persians (piloted by JSB) destroyed ProfA running his Creepers deck.

Catch phrase from the game, "Well I'll be danged! I didn't know that Covenant with Levi had a second special ability." ;)

Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Professoralstad on February 21, 2014, 07:24:56 PM
To be fair, he didn't necesarily beat my Creepers deck so much as he beat my Zebulun deck. Since the entire strategy of the offense was nullified by Haman's Gallows.

I think the 4-0 record is more of a testament to JSBs skilled play (in addition to his annoying knack of having just the right deck, intentionally or otherwise, to stymie whatever strategy I am using) than it is to the deck itself. JSB is kind of like MacGyver in that way I suppose. He just takes whatever he has around him and uses it to accomplish amazing things.

That said, I think Persians and Priests might have a shot this year. Since, you know, I'll be the one using them.*


*This is not necessarily true. But it's also not necessarily false.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on February 22, 2014, 08:15:58 PM
Looks like we will have a good turnout this year. Iowa Wisconsin, KC, Pennsylvania and the Minnesota gang. I think it's going to be a tough one, a good deck tester.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on February 23, 2014, 11:38:25 PM
--Each player may choose up to 3 of the following dominants to add to their deck: Angel of the Lord, Harvest Time, Christian Martyr, Vain Philosophy, Strife, Doubt (players will need to provide their own dominants and dominants cannot be traded). If a dominant is drafted, it CAN be used but there is still a 3 dominant limit.
I think that if anyone chooses to use Harvest Time, Doubt, and Strife that they should only have to rescue 4 Lost Souls each game unless their opponent is using the same set of 3. :P
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: jbeers285 on February 24, 2014, 08:39:28 AM
Travel details

Justin has agreed to let me stay with him for Saturday and Sunday night following the tournament but I still need to find a location for Thursday night prior to the tournament. I also need a ride from the air port on Thursday.

I arrive in MN at 1:20pm on the 27th. If anyone in the area could possibly pick me up and allow me to crash at your house for Thursday night I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance!

Josiah
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: christiangamer25 on February 24, 2014, 08:45:14 AM
Wow your traveling early im not even leaving pa till Wednesday night arr I ving Friday
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheHobbit13 on February 25, 2014, 08:35:54 AM
We will be doing type "S" (aka type speedo) Saturday when we are on lunch break. everytribe and I haven't ironed out all of the detail yet, however, we agree it should look something like this:


Snow Swimming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSoT5R4bnXQ#ws)


Much respect to Justin and Johnathan A. for piloting.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 25, 2014, 12:02:25 PM
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Much respect to Justin and Johnathan A. for piloting.

No problem, I wouldn't have felt right about judging the event this weekend if I hadn't participated already.  8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on February 26, 2014, 10:08:21 PM
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Much respect to Justin and Johnathan A. for piloting.

No problem, I wouldn't have felt right about judging the event this weekend if I hadn't participated already.  8)

And I thought the reason you could never hear the words "National Champions" in Minny-soda was because they didn't have athletes in Football, Baseball, or Basketball. It isn't true that they don't have athletes in Minnesota, it is that they start them at a young age in the lesser known sports like Snow swimming, cat juggling, and counting to "5" without using your toes. Good for you Minny-soda.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 27, 2014, 12:11:43 AM
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Much respect to Justin and Johnathan A. for piloting.

No problem, I wouldn't have felt right about judging the event this weekend if I hadn't participated already.  8)

And I thought the reason you could never hear the words "National Champions" in Minny-soda was because they didn't have athletes in Football, Baseball, or Basketball. It isn't true that they don't have athletes in Minnesota, it is that they start them at a young age in the lesser known sports like Snow swimming, cat juggling, and counting to "5" without using your toes. Good for you Minny-soda.

Speaking of "National Champions," I was trying to count my Nationals trophies the other day, but I couldn't hold them all and count them at the same time...maybe you could give me a hand (or a set of toes) this weekend, Count?  8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on February 27, 2014, 06:44:46 AM
I certainly will help you "Count" them all especially if it gets over the number "orange".
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 27, 2014, 07:40:08 AM
Weather Report (for you out-of-towners): It appears we will be having a slight warm up (compared to today) for the Type-2 Only.

Tomorrow (Friday) we should see a high of 17 degrees with a 50% chance of snow.
Saturday we will have a high of 3* degrees.

*I did not forget a digit here.  I mean three (tres, trois, drei, etc.) degrees.

Looking forward to seeing all y'all, and in the classic words of the radio guys from Groundhog Day, "Don't forget your booties because it's COOOLD out there."
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: CountFount on February 27, 2014, 08:21:17 AM
Weather Report (for you out-of-towners): It appears we will be having a slight warm up (compared to today) for the Type-2 Only.

Tomorrow (Friday) we should see a high of 17 degrees with a 50% chance of snow.
Saturday we will have a high of 3* degrees.

*I did not forget a digit here.  I mean three (tres, trois, drei, etc.) degrees.

Looking forward to seeing all y'all, and in the classic words of the radio guys from Groundhog Day, "Don't forget your booties because it's COOOLD out there."

I love the outdoor tournaments in Minny-soda.  8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: browarod on February 27, 2014, 09:40:50 AM
It was 0 degrees on my way to work this morning so 17 will feel like spring! :D
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 27, 2014, 01:08:51 PM
It was 0 degrees on my way to work this morning so 17 will feel like spring! :D
Lucky!  It was -14 on my drive.  :o
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: TheJaylor on February 27, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
It was 0 degrees on my way to work this morning so 17 will feel like spring! :D
Lucky!  It was -14 on my drive.  :o
I don't drive! ...but yeah it was cold.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on February 27, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
Its time Ladies(Britta) and Gentlemen. Things will start to heat up about 4:00pm in the Great Hall as I start to set up. Doors officially open at 6:00 for Registration, Deck Check In, Trading etc... Hope to start Multi Player at about 7:00.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: DJWeb on February 27, 2014, 11:39:54 PM
Well, I think I actually am going to try to build my own type 2 deck despite what I said earlier. That being said there, I might not be able to make it there until 9:30/10:00 on Saturday, so if things start on time could I just jump in at round 2 assuming my deck is ready to go by then? Will there be cards to buy and trade for like a normal tournament? I'm going to need a good handful of cards. Could I come Friday night just to work on it?

Wow, I feel like a needy Redemption player. . . ha ha. But really if that is too much for me to cram in, just say something and I'll stick to Ironman. Thanks for answering all my questions!
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on February 27, 2014, 11:56:30 PM
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Could I come Friday night just to work on it?

I would definitely try for that as opposed to rushing in last minute with your deck not quite ready on Saturday morning.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on February 27, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
We started this tournament 9 years ago for two reasons.
1. To give the good type 2 players some good competition besides the local players they normally play against.
2. To generate interest in new players trying Type 2.

So come on Friday night and we can help build your deck, there will be cards to trade and buy. And come when you can on Saturday to play. We will be playing 6 rounds, so you can get a good taste off what type 2 is all about. I know of at least 4 players who will be playing type 2 for the first time.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: pilgrim14 on March 01, 2014, 11:05:35 AM
I'm not gonna make it today. I'm not feeling so hot. Wish I could be there!
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: DJWeb on March 01, 2014, 07:45:50 PM
Thanks everyone for the fun day. Nathan Voigt, it looks like I grabbed your CBP lost soul after our last game and brought it home. My bad. I most likely will be at the tournament next month so I can bring it then. If you want it sooner, I can mail it or bring it somewhere.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Nameless on March 01, 2014, 08:38:27 PM
To go along with what is being said, Craig I stole one of your Persian Presidents, and have no plans to give it back.  But you should hope that Bill will, since I gave it to him.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: jbeers285 on March 01, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
2player placing
1. Justin Alstad - judges Assyrian/magicians
2. Martin Miller - FbtNb (surprise surprise surprise :-))
3. Doug Weber - Isaiah/Babs/Assyrian

Multi
1. Josiah Beers - judges/Pharisees
2. Jonathan Alstad - Angles/Philistines
3. Justin Alstad - NT Women/Magicians 
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: The Guardian on March 02, 2014, 11:17:21 AM
Great tournament everyone! I'm planning to write a tourney report at some point but definitely one of the best tournaments I've ever been to! Lots of great players, pretty wide variety in the deck strategies used and of course great hospitality by Wild Bill.  :D I'd say the only disappointing things were Bill not getting a chance to make another run in 2P, (but I'm glad he was able to participate in MP--kudos to MJB for being willing to judge MP!) and me still not getting a chance to play against Count Fount (either in MP or 2P).  8)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: everytribe on March 02, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
2player placing
1. Justin Alstad - judges Assyrian/magicians
2. Martin Miller - FbtNb (surprise surprise surprise :-))
3. Doug Weber - Isaiah/Babs/Assyrian

Multi
1. Josiah Beers - judges/Pharisees
2. Jonathan Alstad - Angles/Philistines
3. Justin Alstad - NT Women/Magicians 

2 player
Justin had a great tournament run:18 points with a 20 LS differential. And he did not have an easy go: 5 out of his 6 matches were against former national champs.
Martin put his deck together that morning and had 26 hero's in his deck. I guess Warrior class banding still is viable. 
Doug played his first type 2 game at the tournament and had a great run to take 3rd. He worked hard the last month at game night getting the cards he needed and putting a deck together. We might have another convert.

Multi
I played on the first table with Josiah and Craig had a quick 6 with Josiah still at 2. Craig kicked me under the table, the signal to let someone else win. And Josiah did end up winning that game and the next 2 also. I found out later that Craig didn't like the target on his back all year because of winning Multi last year, and on Saturday Josiah did have a target on his back (literally).
Its always good to have Johnathan come out of retirement and play, he still has it.
And Justin just got lucky.

Ironman
Peter Helgerson won with an 8-1 record. We are grooming him to be the next RLK to knock Tim out of a regional title.

Favorite Game
Craig and Pat. Last your they tied 1-1, this year they tied 4-4. One of them might get to 7 next year. Last year they lasted 15 minutes before they went to sleep, this year they made it almost an hour.

Thanks to Matt for the great play Mats for 1st place, Tim for being my go-for when I needed something and the great crew that helped stay for cleanup.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: jbeers285 on March 02, 2014, 06:32:05 PM
Pretty sure I only had 1 when Craig got to 6 and as for him kicking you under the table, that was obvious to all of us because count slid so low in his seat trying to stretch all the the way over to your short little legs.  ;D
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Soundman2 on March 03, 2014, 02:28:19 PM
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Martin put his deck together that morning and had 26 hero's in his deck. I guess Warrior class banding still is viable.
Doug played his first type 2 game at the tournament and had a great run to take 3rd. He worked hard the last month at game night getting the cards he needed and putting a deck together. We might have another convert.

We now need a single colored Scattered.
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Captain Falcon on March 03, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
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Martin put his deck together that morning and had 26 hero's in his deck. I guess Warrior class banding still is viable.
Doug played his first type 2 game at the tournament and had a great run to take 3rd. He worked hard the last month at game night getting the cards he needed and putting a deck together. We might have another convert.

We now need a single colored Scattered.

No we don't.  I think one scattered per deck is just fine.  ::)
Title: Re: 9th Annual Type 2 Only
Post by: Soundman2 on March 04, 2014, 05:06:43 PM
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Martin put his deck together that morning and had 26 hero's in his deck. I guess Warrior class banding still is viable.
Doug played his first type 2 game at the tournament and had a great run to take 3rd. He worked hard the last month at game night getting the cards he needed and putting a deck together. We might have another convert.

We now need a single colored Scattered.

No we don't.  I think one scattered per deck is just fine.  ::)

No no it's not I want more!  ;D
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