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*Currently the Tournament is pending Cactus approval
This is the Official thread for PA States!
I'm so happy to be passed down the torch to host this tournament. This year we will be hosting the tournament in Hanover, PA. It's an hour southeast of the previous event, but it's still in the central part of the state, and easy for all players to locate. Look under the tournament specifics for an address to the church. If you have any questions, comments or concerns please feel free to message me on the forum.
Sincerely,
Chad
Date: July 20th, 2013
Time: 9am until 6:30pm (Deck checks starting at 8)
Location: Hanover Wesleyan Church
701 Black Rock Rd Hanover, PA 17331
Costs: $10 for registration (covers the cost for the tournament and for lunch.)
$12 for Sealed (using the NEW starter decks). All other categories are free to enter
Schedule of Events:
8:00am Doors opened to the church. Deck checks will begin.
9:00am Type 1 2 Player, Type 2 2 Player
12:00am Lunch (Pizza, chips, soda, and other treats)
1:00pm Type 1 Multi player, Type 2 Multiplayer
3:30pm Sealed Deck
6:00pm Awards
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Attendance:
1. Chad Z
2. Jon Masters
3. Brad C
4. Gretel C
5. Dayne
6. Blake
7. Josiah B
8. Alex O
9. Shawn (and Sarah)
10. Alex C
11. Chris
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Count me in. Most likely my brother, too. Don't see any conflicts here, and I tried to make sure we'd be free that weekend in anticipation ;)
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Welp, these are my excuses for not being able to attend:
Distance - I will be in Sewickley, PA at the time
Work - Saturdays are the only days I won't have any campers
Poison Ivy - there is the possibility that I will be suffering from this by that point in the summer
Sun Poisoning - I will be exposed to the sun much more than I am used to this summer and this tournament is right around the 2 month mark of being at camp
Allergies - Potentially, my sinuses will be draining from being outside so much. Ain't nobody got time for that at a tournament
Uncompetitive Deck - I lack a deck that could be competitive at this level
Money - I probably won't have cash and I need to save for my GACE certification test
No Ride - I don't have a car, and my only ride option (_JM_) would not be able to take me due to the incompatibility of our schedules.
Laundry - I will probably have to do laundry that day and I cannot miss laundry day. Seriously, during the week I won't have priority to the machines
Pumice - I'm going to have to take care of those darn callouses on my feet so that I don't gross out the next group of campers with my disgusting feet
And last but not least: I will have to scrub a week's worth of grime off my skin and hair, and we all know that such an activity can take a long time
I hope everyone has fun at State's this year, but there are just too many things keeping me from going and participating this year!
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Yes Gretel and I will be there
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im gonna try and make this too we'll see where my funds are at by this point.
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Awesome! Thanks for the early responses. Hoping to see a large amount of interest from Creation, but either way I'd be happy if a small crowd would be there too.
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Maybe
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Brief update on the tournament.
Rob has made the new starter decks and tins Tournament legal by July 4th for all categories. I would like some feedback on the next topic.
We will 100% play sealed with the new starter decks. I would like to get a headcount of how many people will play sealed, and should we play this category first, so players may make changes to their decks with the new cards?
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With the availability of the new starters why don't we do sealed instead of booster.
It's also a cheaper event for participants?
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With the availability of the new starters why don't we do sealed instead of booster.
It's also a cheaper event for participants?
We are. lol
Currently filling out the paperwork, and sending out the application on Tuesday.
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Couple things
1. Ill be in attendance due to housing arrangements falling through my wife and I will be in the area so ill be there and can help as a co-host (if chad so desires)
2. Could we flip t2-2p and T2-Multi so people could play in both major categories if they want?
3. With the new sealed stuff what if we tried something totally different and have every one 3 (Di) packs and charge 20 in stead of 12. I know this may be off the wall but it could make for an awesome sealed with the new stuff.
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2. Could we flip t2-2p and T2-Multi so people could play in both major categories if they want?
I would recommend against doing this. We tried it at MD States last year and the timing just does not work out at all.
3. With the new sealed stuff what if we tried something totally different and have every one 3 (Di) packs and charge 20 in stead of 12. I know this may be off the wall but it could make for an awesome sealed with the new stuff.
Too much advantage to one deck over the other with that. Disciples can't be used in Sealed because of the way they influence the standings, making it so that one side of the deck will almost always win.
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2. Could we flip t2-2p and T2-Multi so people could play in both major categories if they want?
I would recommend against doing this. We tried it at MD States last year and the timing just does not work out at all.
3. With the new sealed stuff what if we tried something totally different and have every one 3 (Di) packs and charge 20 in stead of 12. I know this may be off the wall but it could make for an awesome sealed with the new stuff.
Too much advantage to one deck over the other with that. Disciples can't be used in Sealed because of the way they influence the standings, making it so that one side of the deck will almost always win.
2. Then perhaps we can over come the timing challenge by changing our approach to deck checking and start times of categories. Just because it has been an issue doesn't mean it's impossible. Proper planning and time allotment can overcome timing challenges.
3. Disciples can offer an advantage but the opportunity to trade, the fact that there are 15 cards in each pack (11 of which are not disciples cards) and the the opportunity to pull other powerful cards makes this seem appealing. (We never restricted patriarchs for G and H just bc someone could pull a plot and jeptha)
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It's tough to plan because it's really hard to figure out numbers. I'm a big supporter of keeping the 2Player events against each other.
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2. Then perhaps we can over come the timing challenge by changing our approach to deck checking and start times of categories. Just because it has been an issue doesn't mean it's impossible. Proper planning and time allotment can overcome timing challenges.
It's tough to plan because it's really hard to figure out numbers. I'm a big supporter of keeping the 2Player events against each other.
This point is very valid, first, and second no matter how you plan, they just do not match up in the time of categories. With the number of players for T1 and T2 in this area, and the number who would switch around to play both 2-players, believe me when I say that T1-MP will be outnumbered (happened at MD states last year) and T2-2P will take hours longer in the end. It just will, and no amount of planning can help unfortunately. Trust me, Chris was the one who suggested this idea last year, and I thought it was a great idea, but it does not work in practice.
3. Disciples can offer an advantage but the opportunity to trade, the fact that there are 15 cards in each pack (11 of which are not disciples cards) and the the opportunity to pull other powerful cards makes this seem appealing. (We never restricted patriarchs for G and H just bc someone could pull a plot and jeptha)
The ability to trade does not actually help the situation (why trade to make the other deck so much better?), and the power there is just too much to ignore. Also, it makes Sealed much more cost-prohibitive for a category that is supposed to be there for younger/newer players especially. Foils should be the only packs made available for Sealed, in my opinion and experience.
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TEP would be balanced in sealed, but who would want them?
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The ability to trade does not actually help the situation (why trade to make the other deck so much better?), and the power there is just too much to ignore. Also, it makes Sealed much more cost-prohibitive for a category that is supposed to be there for younger/newer players especially. Foils should be the only packs made available for Sealed, in my opinion and experience.
Yeah if you are going insist on having non-foil pack, make it TxP, but sealed is supposed to be somewhat cheaper anyway. With DI, one deck has a ton more potential to get out the DI packs, and no trading is really going to help balance that (not that the other deck has no potential from that pack, Aaron would be absurdly good for the G deck).
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The ability to trade does not actually help the situation (why trade to make the other deck so much better?), and the power there is just too much to ignore. Also, it makes Sealed much more cost-prohibitive for a category that is supposed to be there for younger/newer players especially. Foils should be the only packs made available for Sealed, in my opinion and experience.
Yeah if you are going insist on having non-foil pack, make it TxP, but sealed is supposed to be somewhat cheaper anyway. With DI, one deck has a ton more potential to get out the DI packs, and no trading is really going to help balance that (not that the other deck has no potential from that pack, Aaron would be absurdly good for the G deck).
This is for IJ....
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You will have players from Creation, I imagine, so you may not want to do a screwy sealed deck. And if I remember, you can't do it that way anyway.
Another edit: Yes, it is hard to not have the other 2 player events against each other. I recommend against doing this as well.
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The ability to trade does not actually help the situation (why trade to make the other deck so much better?), and the power there is just too much to ignore. Also, it makes Sealed much more cost-prohibitive for a category that is supposed to be there for younger/newer players especially. Foils should be the only packs made available for Sealed, in my opinion and experience.
Yeah if you are going insist on having non-foil pack, make it TxP, but sealed is supposed to be somewhat cheaper anyway. With DI, one deck has a ton more potential to get out the DI packs, and no trading is really going to help balance that (not that the other deck has no potential from that pack, Aaron would be absurdly good for the G deck).
This is for IJ....
Oh right, forgot that was being released by then. Well then yeah, DI is definitely unbalanced in favor of I.
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2. Then perhaps we can over come the timing challenge by changing our approach to deck checking and start times of categories. Just because it has been an issue doesn't mean it's impossible. Proper planning and time allotment can overcome timing challenges.
There is a time and place to experiment with this, but I don't believe that one of the busiest State tournaments in the season is that time or place. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it under other circumstances (like MD States), but because PA States has traditionally seen an influx of new players from Creation, it's best to stick to what we know here.
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This is the first time reading this so I guess I'll be the final decision-maker. Josiah I would really appreciate if you could co-host with me, and help with ruling questions. I love the thought of flipping the categories, but I have to agree with Chris and Dayne on last year's MD states incident. I also agree with Marti that we shouldn't stray from the original schedule of events being that this tournament should see a lot of new faces to the game.
As for the sealed debate I'm going to ask that we stay true to the original sealed and play with foil packs. The category is about a level playing field between amateurs and veterans, so the fact that one player might have a deck that is better is something I don't want to occur.
Maybe within the next tournament season we can try different tournament schedules, and see what is the best way to avoid down time between categories.
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Sooooo it's been a month, and I haven't gotten any paperwork or word from Rob about the approval of this tournament. Should I try messaging him on here?
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As soon as I mention it, a package arrives. We are now OFFICIAL!!!!!
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And my stock has arrived as well :P.
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9 Days until the tournament. Hope to see some eager faces ready to play!
-Chad
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3 coming down with me. :)
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3 coming down with me. :)
Coming up :-)
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Brad has been kind enough to give me a ride so I'll be there
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Brad has been kind enough to give me a ride so I'll be there
Sweet perhaps a quick Sheetz run for a donut I can eat this time lol
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I'll be there. I might be bringing someone; not sure yet. If I do, I doubt she'll play.
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I'll be there. I might be bringing someone; not sure yet. If I do, I doubt she'll play.
I brought one of those to regionals last year and now she is my wife! I hope you aren't bringing the wrong one.
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heh too bad im gonna miss this im invading mn instead lol
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As a side note, I have no interest in Sealed Deck so I can judge it if you want.
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My friend and I will be attending this event.
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As a side note, I have no interest in Sealed Deck so I can judge it if you want.
I would like to play sealed so that would be great!
As a side note, I have no interest in Sealed Deck so I can judge it if you want.
Are you gents staying overnight Friday night? I asked Josiah's dad, and he said as long as someone is there (aka me) then you can spend the night at the church. We could play some small side games as practice.
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Yup, We are going to stay Friday night.
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I may or may not be there Friday night, depending on what's going on. As an aside, my car broke down on the way to Gettysburg (where I'm staying) last night, so I have a ride there and back, but I may need to stay somewhere for a couple hours while I wait for my parents to pick me up.
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I may or may not be there Friday night, depending on what's going on. As an aside, my car broke down on the way to Gettysburg (where I'm staying) last night, so I have a ride there and back, but I may need to stay somewhere for a couple hours while I wait for my parents to pick me up.
Ur welcome to stick around my place I have a pool if u wanna bring stud to swim
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I may or may not be there Friday night, depending on what's going on. As an aside, my car broke down on the way to Gettysburg (where I'm staying) last night, so I have a ride there and back, but I may need to stay somewhere for a couple hours while I wait for my parents to pick me up.
Ur welcome to stick around my place I have a pool if u wanna bring stud to swim
I'll probably take you up on that - thanks.
Right now my plan is to arrive Friday night. Who all will be there? Will there be a problem if I bring a girl who will stay the night and leave sometime in the morning?
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Right now my plan is to arrive Friday night. Who all will be there? Will there be a problem if I bring a girl who will stay the night and leave sometime in the morning?
I will be there, Chad will too, and I think Matt and whoever's coming with him. I don't have a problem with you bringing a girl, but that's more Chad's call to make.
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This is an anti-Chick-fil-a only tournament Chris. No girls allowed.
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My church wouldn't like the girl guy thing do to not having desperate quarters but if u wanna stay at my place Friday night I don't see it being an issue. In all honesty I have a sand volley ball court and a pool if anyone wants to hang out Friday night at my place and then ill lead people to the church when people start crashing
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How far is this from Morgantown, WV? Anyone know? I might come up and hang out, I haven't got any decks together.
/edit 7 Hour drive time there and back. Think that will be to much for me.
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How far is this from Morgantown, WV? Anyone know? I might come up and hang out, I haven't got any decks together.
/edit 7 Hour drive time there and back. Think that will be to much for me.
You could make the trip and hangout with us Friday night and then drive back Saturday to break up the trip.
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How far is this from Morgantown, WV? Anyone know? I might come up and hang out, I haven't got any decks together.
/edit 7 Hour drive time there and back. Think that will be to much for me.
You could make the trip and hangout with us Friday night and then drive back Saturday to break up the trip.
I get off work at 5:30 so I wouldn't be there until real late.
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How far is this from Morgantown, WV? Anyone know? I might come up and hang out, I haven't got any decks together.
/edit 7 Hour drive time there and back. Think that will be to much for me.
You could make the trip and hangout with us Friday night and then drive back Saturday to break up the trip.
I get off work at 5:30 so I wouldn't be there until real late.
I'll be going there from Waynesburg, PA, which is just north of you - unfortunately, the timing won't work, because I'll be leaving between 8 and 9 in the morning tomorrow so I can visit family (I'm originally from that area). I'm hoping to be able to host tournaments in Waynesburg soon, got some folks in this area I'm trying to get into Redemption, so I'll make sure to coordinate with you when that happens.
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How far is this from Morgantown, WV? Anyone know? I might come up and hang out, I haven't got any decks together.
/edit 7 Hour drive time there and back. Think that will be to much for me.
You could make the trip and hangout with us Friday night and then drive back Saturday to break up the trip.
I get off work at 5:30 so I wouldn't be there until real late.
I'll be going there from Waynesburg, PA, which is just north of you - unfortunately, the timing won't work, because I'll be leaving between 8 and 9 in the morning tomorrow so I can visit family (I'm originally from that area). I'm hoping to be able to host tournaments in Waynesburg soon, got some folks in this area I'm trying to get into Redemption, so I'll make sure to coordinate with you when that happens.
Sounds like a plan bud. Keep in touch.
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Less then 48 hours away! Getting excited to see old and new friends!
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I shall be there, barring supernatural or unseen occurrences.
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I am on location if anyone shows up beat on the door and ill let u in
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To all attending pa states who maybe coming chad Zepp's phone is down due to weather.
You can reach chad through me at (717)521-2835
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I would like to thank everyone that participated in the PA state tournament. I was stressed with the lack of cell phone reception, and the change of events for Friday evening. But we went underway with the tournament, and here are the official tournament winners.
Type 1 2 Player
1.) Chris Ericson (PA)
2.) Blake Maust (MD)
3.) Charles Johnson (PA)
Type 1 Multiplayer
1.) Blake Maust (MD)
2.) Charles Johnson (PA)
3.) Alex Olijar/ Matt Townsend (PA/OH)
Type 2 2 Player
1.) Dayne Maust
2.) Shawn Capron
3.) Alex Jacobs
Type 2 Multiplayer
1.) Shawn Capron/ Alex Jacobs (MD)
3.) Dayne Maust/ Chris Ericson (MD/PA)
Sealed Deck
1.) Josiah Beers (PA)
2.) Keith Lance (OH)
3.) Shawn Capron/ Steven Monserrate
Congratulations to all the winners, and good luck to all participants heading to Nats!
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Type 2 Multiplayer
1.) Shawn Capron/ Alex Jacobs (MD)
3.) Dayne Maust/ Chris Ericson (MD/PA)
Oh what fun that game was...score 5-5-4-4 coming to my turn and then Chris to close out the final round. Chris, being the jerk that he is, plays CM on me when I go in for the 3-way tie.
Someone says something about him trying to tie for first. Me being sick, I had a medical mask on and a deep voice, making my "He will not." much more awesome. Chris is very afraid of what I'm going to play, and debates about what is going to happen. Goes after someone else for the only souls available, obviously torn between how to go about it, takes his time, everyone gathers around.
Will he play CM? Need to band then...unless he has Burial. Oh he would have it wouldn't he...unless it is all a bluff.
Several minutes later, he finally completes the beginning of the battle. Burial. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! TIES ALL-AROUND!
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Type 2 Multiplayer
1.) Shawn Capron/ Alex Jacobs (MD)
3.) Dayne Maust/ Chris Ericson (MD/PA)
Oh what fun that game was...score 5-5-4-4 coming to my turn and then Chris to close out the final round. Chris, being the jerk that he is, plays CM on me when I go in for the 3-way tie.
Someone says something about him trying to tie for first. Me being sick, I had a medical mask on and a deep voice, making my "He will not." much more awesome. Chris is very afraid of what I'm going to play, and debates about what is going to happen. Goes after someone else for the only souls available, obviously torn between how to go about it, takes his time, everyone gathers around.
Will he play CM? Need to band then...unless he has Burial. Oh he would have it wouldn't he...unless it is all a bluff.
Several minutes later, he finally completes the beginning of the battle. Burial. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! TIES ALL-AROUND!
haha that was very sinister!