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Title: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Forever 12 on December 30, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
I have been playing for a short time now, but it seems that people make jokes about this card "buckler" alot. What's up with that?
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Chronic Apathy on December 30, 2011, 03:08:41 PM
The main reason the 0/2 Buckler is joked about is because it's one of the worst enhancements in the game. While there are probably a handful of worse cards (though I cannot think of any off the top of my head, except for maybe Jacob's Ladder in T2), Buckler became a joke a while ago and has simply stuck.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Forever 12 on December 30, 2011, 03:16:25 PM
Are there any other cards that are in a similar situation to this one?
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 30, 2011, 03:23:06 PM
The main reason the 0/2 Buckler is joked about is because it's one of the worst enhancements in the game. While there are probably a handful of worse cards (though I cannot think of any off the top of my head, except for maybe Jacob's Ladder in T2), Buckler became a joke a while ago and has simply stuck.
Jacob's Ladder can be discarded by Uzzah. It's more useful.

Are there any other cards that are in a similar situation to this one?
Well, 0/2 Coat of Mail and 0/2 Helmet of Brass are in the same boat, but Buckler is unique because we joke about it. Also, if you hear somebody say "Black is weak", it's a joke.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Forever 12 on December 30, 2011, 03:27:35 PM
The main reason the 0/2 Buckler is joked about is because it's one of the worst enhancements in the game. While there are probably a handful of worse cards (though I cannot think of any off the top of my head, except for maybe Jacob's Ladder in T2), Buckler became a joke a while ago and has simply stuck.
Jacob's Ladder can be discarded by Uzzah. It's more useful.

Are there any other cards that are in a similar situation to this one?
Well, 0/2 Coat of Mail and 0/2 Helmet of Brass are in the same boat, but Buckler is unique because we joke about it. Also, if you hear somebody say "Black is weak", it's a joke.

Is black weak?
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: SomeKittens on December 30, 2011, 03:53:52 PM
Ironically enough, Black took a big hit with the new 2011 set.  There are better defenses in all sizes.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 30, 2011, 07:14:43 PM
Ironically enough, Black took a big hit with the new 2011 set.  There are better defenses in all sizes.
It's the second best less than 10 card defense, IMO. The best would be in my sig, but Philly Outpost, Goliath, 12FG, and Garrison alone form a formidable team. Throw in a few odds and ends like negates, artifacts, or Uzzah, and you're gold.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: SomeKittens on December 30, 2011, 07:21:34 PM
With all the new CBN, Phillies don't have any punch.  Ahimelek puts the nail in the coffin with Goliath.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: MattsterNinja on December 30, 2011, 08:52:42 PM
If you don't know Buckler is a 0/2 enhancement, Red brigade, with the ability to return a hero to your hand if discarded.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: SomeKittens on December 30, 2011, 08:56:39 PM
If you don't know Buckler is a 0/2 enhancement, Red brigade, with the ability to return a hero to your hand if discarded.
There are several bucklers, but the one we're referencing is:
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Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: MattsterNinja on December 30, 2011, 11:03:28 PM
Ohh, I have the special ability one. I didn't know there was another one.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: katedid on December 30, 2011, 11:12:44 PM
Yah its one of the many "unique" memes on these forums. Took me a while to get it so don't sweat it. There is actually a post some where around here explaining them all if you are up to some searching
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: STAMP on December 30, 2011, 11:23:04 PM
Actually the one that is referenced most of all is the very rare promo of which I think I heard there were only 5 in existence.



:P
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: MattsterNinja on December 30, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
Wow that really cool. I thought the all had special abilities.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: katedid on December 30, 2011, 11:58:49 PM
Nope, in fact a good offense based on judges has several characters with no special abilities because they work really well with this artifact

Windows of Narrow Light (P)
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect your Heroes with no special ability from capture, conversion and removal from the game.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: MattsterNinja on December 31, 2011, 12:03:17 AM
I got that card at a tournament last year but i never used it.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: katedid on December 31, 2011, 12:07:22 AM
Deborah, Gideon, and Samson are some really good judges with no special abilities but some really intense and powerful cards that can be played on them.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Chronic Apathy on December 31, 2011, 12:11:02 AM
Actually the one that is referenced most of all is the very rare promo of which I think I heard there were only 5 in existence.



:P

Not sure if serious or just ANB.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 31, 2011, 01:44:18 AM
Deborah, Gideon, and Samson are some really good judges with no special abilities but some really intense and powerful cards that can be played on them.
SHAMGAR IS THE BEST JUDGE OF ALL!

He's an even better judge than the majority of the Elders.

He can also play Buckler. FTW.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: STAMP on December 31, 2011, 07:46:19 AM
Actually the one that is referenced most of all is the very rare promo of which I think I heard there were only 5 in existence.



:P

Not sure if serious or just ANB.

ANB is indeed a state of mind.  ;)


As for the Buckler Promo you'll need to contact a Minnesotan.

I do, however, have a Holy Hand Grenade Promo.   ;D
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Ryupeco11 on December 31, 2011, 11:10:40 AM
The main reason the 0/2 Buckler is joked about is because it's one of the worst enhancements in the game. While there are probably a handful of worse cards (though I cannot think of any off the top of my head, except for maybe Jacob's Ladder in T2), Buckler became a joke a while ago and has simply stuck.

Satan's folly is worse IMO
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: SomeKittens on December 31, 2011, 12:38:54 PM
The main reason the 0/2 Buckler is joked about is because it's one of the worst enhancements in the game. While there are probably a handful of worse cards (though I cannot think of any off the top of my head, except for maybe Jacob's Ladder in T2), Buckler became a joke a while ago and has simply stuck.

Satan's folly is worse IMO
Apostles Timothy.  'nuff said.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Forever 12 on December 31, 2011, 12:42:27 PM
What is this ANB that you speak of?
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: SomeKittens on December 31, 2011, 12:45:28 PM
What is this ANB that you speak of?
What other enhancement could bring such fame and infamy?  What but Green brigade could cause both REPs and RLKs alike to scowl in terror?  What other top-tier deck could have been originally been conceived as a joke?  What other card has been errata'd...TWICE!
Ladies and Gentlemen, I speak of none other than:
A NEW BEGINNING!
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Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Chronic Apathy on December 31, 2011, 01:32:55 PM
What other enhancement could bring such fame and infamy?  What but Green brigade could cause both REPs and RLKs alike to scowl in terror annoyance that would make someone want to strangle a man?

FTFY.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Forever 12 on December 31, 2011, 01:44:54 PM
Wow thats the best card in the game!
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on December 31, 2011, 02:03:42 PM
The main reason the 0/2 Buckler is joked about is because it's one of the worst enhancements in the game. While there are probably a handful of worse cards (though I cannot think of any off the top of my head, except for maybe Jacob's Ladder in T2), Buckler became a joke a while ago and has simply stuck.

Satan's folly is worse IMO
Apostles Herod Agrippa II.  'nuff said.

Fixed that for you:

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redemptionreg.com%2FREG%2FLinkedDocuments%2FHerod%2520Agrippa%2520II%2520%28Ap%29.gif&hash=76a308c7227aa79ca4665da02f3336ade4914349)

Because giving a multicolor CBN hero initiative is the BEST ability ever!
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 31, 2011, 02:10:46 PM
What but Green brigade could cause both REPs and RLKs alike to scowl in terror?
REPs? I've heard of ROGs, but what?

And Herod Agrippa II is better due to Herod's Treachery. Just saying. Satan's Folly is better because it succeeds in keeping you alive.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on December 31, 2011, 02:14:15 PM
I believe REP is Prof U's term for Really Experienced Player.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on December 31, 2011, 02:30:04 PM
ROGs? I've heard of ROUS, but what?
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 31, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
Random Old Guys.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Ryupeco11 on December 31, 2011, 11:16:10 PM
What is this ANB that you speak of?
What other enhancement could bring such fame and infamy?  What but Green brigade could cause both REPs and RLKs alike to scowl in terror?  What other top-tier deck could have been originally been conceived as a joke?  What other card has been errata'd...TWICE!
Ladies and Gentlemen, I speak of none other than:
A NEW BEGINNING!
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redemptionreg.com%2FREG%2FLinkedDocuments%2FA%2520New%2520Beginning%2520%28Pa%29.gif&hash=9fce5d32cabe12bacd91f27817ce15a2cd1014b8)

has it really only been errata'd twice? i'm sure its been more like 10 but someone *cough* stamp *cough* brainwashed or hypnotized us all to only think it has been twice.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: SomeKittens on December 31, 2011, 11:19:36 PM
I thought it was only twice, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Forever 12 on January 02, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
What's an "Errata"?
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: SomeKittens on January 02, 2012, 11:25:41 AM
What's an "Errata"?
When Rob Anderson (the creator of Redemption, and owner of Cactus Game Design) changes the way a card works.  For instance, Holy Grail received the errata that it couldn't be used during the battle phase.
Title: Re: why does this red enhancement get so much hate?
Post by: Professoralstad on January 02, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
What's an "Errata"?
When Rob Anderson (the creator of Redemption, and owner of Cactus Game Design) changes the way a card works.  For instance, Holy Grail received the errata that it couldn't be used during the battle phase on characters in battle.

FTFY
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