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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Claude on July 20, 2008, 11:34:00 PM
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Hey,
I think this deserves a thread of its own.
First of all... I think that they should not make another joker... It should be off-limits.
Second, who do you think will be the next Batman villain?
***DO NOT SCROLL DOWN IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN BATMAN DARK KNIGHT YET ***
1) Two Face? Coz he cant possibly die just because of that itsy bitsy drop, can he? And police might not say to the public that he didnt turn bad to protect his reputation.
2) Riddler? I'm guessing he was hinted in the movie... first guess, the mob guy. The one with a cane who fell off the building breaking both his ankles. He was spared his life by two-face but his driver died. So there is the speculation right there. Hes being shown constantly, his life was spared for a reason, and he has a cane and fancy suits. But he is old, so he might not be it.
Second is Reese. I saw this in the internet...Reese is the guy who Joker said must die in 60 minutes or a hospital explodes... if you pronounce Mr. Reese quickly, it sounds like Mysteries. And he knows Batman's true identity. And he's young
So it's might be any of those guys, but i might be wrong. But Riddler might be a strong candidate because it's Two-Face and Riddler.
**EDIT: BTW, out of all Batman's enemies... only Riddler discovered hs real identity. Hah. and Reese knows it. ooooo***
3) Scarecrow? Would you like a Scarecrow and twoface? He was there too haha
4) Cat woman? Next to Riddler, catwoman is probably the strongest candidate... She was hinted when Lucius gives Bruce his new armor, Bruce asks if the armor will stand up to dogs to which Lucius replies: It'll stop a cat.
5) Others?
aaahhhhhh THE DARK KNIGHT WAS AWESOME. ACTING TERRIFIC. It will be extremely hard to top this one if they make a new one.
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Penguin.
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wat makes u think of that?
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wat makes u think of that?
I can't make out this sentence.
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I mean, what made you think of Penguin? Did u see any hints at all in the dark knight? Coz in the batman begins, there was a hint at the end with the joker card.
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I mean, what made you think of Penguin? Did u see any hints at all in the dark knight? Cause in the batman begins, there was a hint at the end with the joker card.
I haven't seen the new movie. I was just commenting that Penguin is a possibility.
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What about Mr. Freeze?
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I mean, what made you think of Penguin? Did u see any hints at all in the dark knight? Cause in the batman begins, there was a hint at the end with the joker card.
Oh okok lol... mini-me of austin powers should play it :)
What about Mr. Freeze?
Hmmm some people speculate that, but i personally think that wouldnt be that good as seen in the previous one. And he wasnt hinted in the movie, was he?
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I'll let you know, I'm seeing it on Tuesday.
I personally like Mr. Freeze. Certianly better than some plumpy guy with an umbrella.
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This is a dark setting for Batman, so it will be completely different than other movies...I can't see Catwoman being pure evil to become a main villainess. Reese is not inquistive enough to be Riddler (Who is already Edward Nygma)... I see Two-Face coming back in spades, and Batman having to clean up Gotham once again, the hated hero. And the mob boss is way too old and unintelligent to become the Riddler
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That's true... his name is already Edward Nigma... but the clues just can't make one stop to speculate
**if u havent seen TDK yet, dont scroll down
1) Reese met Joker, an action he shared wth two face.
2) Reese was curious enough, if not inquisitive, to figure out Batman's real identity, something he shares with only one villain--Riddler
3) Reese was young enough
4) Reese still hasn't gotten his money
5) Some others i can't think on top of my head but i''l get back to later, or if um1 can point them out.
So because of that, he might be changing his name or something later on, or Reese might not be his real name... It might be a stretch lol but it's a speculation.
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**SPOILERS**
IDK.... with the way batman hid the burnt half of twoface, it seems like hes pretty well dead.
While Joker lived.... I highly doubt they will recast him in honor of Ledgers performance. Possibly just have some voice acting/shilloettes as you see what becomes of him?
Hmm... who is another dark batman villian....
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it's never gonna be scarcrow cause he just came in "batman begins"
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Ra's Al Ghul for sure.
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Ra's Al Ghul for sure.
he's dead
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Not immediately following Dent's scarring.
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I bet it's Mxyzptlk.
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i'd love to see who the new catwoman will be and the new poison ivy and i'd loike to see killer croc and and man-bat
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UN CROCODRILLO!
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i'd love to see who the new catwoman will be and the new poison ivy and i'd loike to see killer croc and and man-bat
But Mxyzptlk is more fun. Dude, like can batman make him say his name backwards? That'd be a fun movie.
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Heath died and they didn't kill off joker lawl @ them
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So your laughing at the fact that Heath Died?
-1 to you. How could they predict that?
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Lawl for not killing off joker
Heath dieing is :-\
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Um... Anyone who hangs around the Olsen twins is dead within a month. Plus he was shooting heroin and O.D.ing pain meds.
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What about Mr. Freeze?
Yeah that would be cool. But what about The Penguin and Mr. Freeze?
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What about Mr. Freeze?
Yeah that would be cool. But what about The Penguin and Mr. Freeze?
this calls for a rimshot
*rimshot*
freeze and penguin would get along great.
maybe they can bring back danny davito the original movie penguin :D
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The Penguin isn't dark tho...
Mr. Freeze would work
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I'm hoping The Riddler, and either Penguin or Catwoman.
As for Mr Freeze, me and my older brother agree that Mr Freeze doesn't fit with the more realistic Batman the movies are doing.
My older brother, and I seem to agree that Bain would be a good villain to see
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Um... Anyone who hangs around the Olsen twins is dead within a month. Plus he was shooting heroin and O.D.ing pain meds.
Its Mary Kate. She's a bad seed. :(
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Bane* and he's a goofy wrestler. Besides, he comes into the picture much later.
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Bane is incredibly intelligent and using his drug is incredibly strong, and he found out Batman's secret identity in the comics.
I think he would work well
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Bane is incredibly intelligent and using his drug is incredibly strong, and he found out Batman's secret identity in the comics.
I think he would work well
cept he'd be to stupid to tell anybody cause he can't talk.
XD
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Bane is one of Batman's smartest villains, at least in the comics, and should be treated as such in the new movies, no matter what the old movie has shown
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After seeing it, I say Two Face and the Ridder team up next movie.
Two-Face is obvious, and the Riddler is the Mob Boss I think.
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B&R was the single worst treatment of what are among the cream of the crop in Batman's rogue's gallery. Not to take anything away from The Penguin or The Riddler, but I thought the cartoon treatment of Mr. Freeze was incredible, and if they had been able to cast Patrick Stewart as planned, things might have been different. If they can get a guy like that to really give Freeze some air of dignity, we're in business. And Bane systematically tore Batman down, draining him physically, mentally and emotionally, before finally confronting him in his own layer and nearly killing him. He is one of Batman's most sinister villains, bar none, and needs to be portrayed with a real sense of menace, not some mindless musclebound freak.
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How can the mob boss be nygma? I mean seriously...Nygma is a bit of a nerdy dweeblike character...not a kingpin mobster...
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After seeing it, I say Two Face and the Ridder team up next movie.
Two-Face is obvious, and the Riddler is the Mob Boss I think.
IDK.... I still say two-face is dead.
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Well, I don't think so. They woulnd't just kill him that fast. He's alive for writing purposes I think.
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Yeah. He was in Batman Begins. I heard from someone that the actor that played joker is now dead. Is this true?
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Yeah. He was in Batman Begins. I heard from someone that the actor that played joker is now dead. Is this true?
yea he is.
I also heard that Christian Bale is in jail atm.
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1. Two-face is dead. end of story.
2. Joker might be in it for 2 seconds, like scarecrow was.
3. Scarecrow's gone.
4. Riddler would be the worst mistake Marvel could make. they really didn't need Riddler AND Joker in the first place.
5. Catwoman was a movie on it's own awhile back.
6. Penguin never could stand up to Batman without help, who's gonna help him?
7. Mr. Freeze would be one of the only ones who can do something that others can't... freeze things. yeah, with a freeze gun, but still, Batman, Joker, Scarecrow, Two-face didn't really have anything special about them
who's left?
8. Poisen Ivy. eh...
9. Bane would be awesome
was scarecrow even in the cartoons or comics? I had never heard of him before Batman Begins
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umm, monk.
batman is D/C and riddler is of D/C not Marvel
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was scarecrow even in the cartoons or comics? I had never heard of him before Batman Begins
Yes, Scarecrow was in both the comics and the animated series. He's also one of Batman's better and more interesting villains. Penguin is terrible as a villain, always has been. He's just a fat guy with random bird gadgets. Riddler would be a great villain if done correctly. Mr. Freeze would be an awesome choice for the next movie, especially if someone like Patrick Stewart were to play him.
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And Bane systematically tore Batman down, draining him physically, mentally and emotionally, before finally confronting him in his own layer and nearly killing him.
Schaef,
How very uncharacteristic of you to misspell a word. Are you running some sort of contest to see who can find the misspelling?
layer should be lair. ;D I picked up on it because it is very uncharacteristic of you. ;)
Godspeed,
Mike
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After seeing it, I say Two Face and the Ridder team up next movie.
Two-Face is obvious, and the Riddler is the Mob Boss I think.
IDK.... I still say two-face is dead.
He can't be dead. His new villain is gonna be 2-face again. I hope they don't bring the penguin in it. And Mr. Freeze might be descent, but when I think about how he was played in the last batman he was in I can't give it a thumbs up.
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After seeing it, I say Two Face and the Ridder team up next movie.
Two-Face is obvious, and the Riddler is the Mob Boss I think.
IDK.... I still say two-face is dead.
He can't be dead. His new villain is gonna be 2-face again. I hope they don't bring the penguin in it. And Mr. Freeze might be descent, but when I think about how he was played in the last batman he was in I can't give it a thumbs up.
I doubt that they are gonna use Two-face for three reasons:
1. He died.
2. They held a funeral for him.
3. You don't hold a funeral for someone who isn't dead.
And if anyone says that he got up and ran off when we weren't looking... No he didn't. You don't hold a funeral for someone who you think you see die, then, when you look back, the body is gone.
I agree with everyone who wants Bane to be the next Villain.
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After seeing it, I say Two Face and the Ridder team up next movie.
Two-Face is obvious, and the Riddler is the Mob Boss I think.
IDK.... I still say two-face is dead.
He can't be dead. His new villain is gonna be 2-face again. I hope they don't bring the penguin in it. And Mr. Freeze might be descent, but when I think about how he was played in the last batman he was in I can't give it a thumbs up.
I doubt that they are gonna use Two-face for three reasons:
1. He died.
2. They held a funeral for him.
3. You don't hold a funeral for someone who isn't dead.
And if anyone says that he got up and ran off when we weren't looking... No he didn't. You don't hold a funeral for someone who you think you see die, then, when you look back, the body is gone.
I agree with everyone who wants Bane to be the next Villain.
they had a funeral for Harvey Dent not 2 face. he fell for like 5 feet or so. he may have been uncanniness
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I'm not completely sure but someone put that gordon checked his pulse.
Anyway, ooh bane is a good idea. :o
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that and batman well not kill. I like Bane or the Riddler
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umm, monk.
batman is D/C and riddler is of D/C not Marvel
oops
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I'm tired of all this talk that it might be Two-Face; it can't, because he did in fact die. First off, he fell more than "five feet", it was more like twenty, and (if my memory serves correctly) it was on pavement. Second, a funeral was held was held for Harvey Dent, and I'm entirely sure everyone in this debate knows he's Two-Face; it wouldn't take too much for them to make it a closed-casket and let him rest in peace. Suffice to say, there's no way he's coming back, period. It can't be Scarecrow either, if my memory is correct (I was a bit confused on what exactly happened) he was killed in one of the opening scenes; I don't believe he was merely captured.
Riddler is the best option in my opinion.
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I'm tired of all this talk that it might be Two-Face; it can't, because he did in fact die. First off, he fell more than "five feet", it was more like twenty, and (if my memory serves correctly) it was on pavement. Second, a funeral was held was held for Harvey Dent, and I'm entirely sure everyone in this debate knows he's Two-Face; it wouldn't take too much for them to make it a closed-casket and let him rest in peace. Suffice to say, there's no way he's coming back, period. It can't be Scarecrow either, if my memory is correct (I was a bit confused on what exactly happened) he was killed in one of the opening scenes; I don't believe he was merely captured.
Riddler is the best option in my opinion.
NOT Riddler. Riddler would just be odd. they could have done a Riddler in the first one, and then Joker in the third, but don't follow Joker with Riddler. DC failed with making Riddler.
Two-Face did die about a million times in the comics... but I still say he's dead
and yes, scarecrow died
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No, Riddler is massive win. He just gets portrayed badly.
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The only way Riddler would work with this new protrayal is to make him dark and twisted - something they did with Joker already. I agree, it needs to be someone else.
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Riddler was twisted. He rigged an amusment park with deadly weapons and bad puns. What could be more twisted?
Losers ahead
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Riddler was twisted. He rigged an amusment park with deadly weapons and bad puns. What could be more twisted?
Losers ahead
Joker rigged a boat with deadly weapons + bad puns
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Two-face probably isn't dead. Harvey Dent died...the day he became Two-face. But he probably won't be the main villain.
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Two face: dead
Joker: won't be a big villain again
scarecrow: showed up and got pwned in both movies, so no
riddler: Maybe... I don't think this would be too bad.
bain: (if this is the guy I am thinking about that uses drugs to become as strong as the Hulk) would be okay, but I would vote no. He is too big and isn't the best choice for a realistic batman.
Penguin: I would say no, but he definititely might appear since he is like in the top three classic villains
Mr. Freeze: Yes. I would say he is the best villain and has a pretty dark vengefull story of his own. Would work well with the plot and riddler.
If Mr. Freeze and Riddler became the villains then that would be great. Riddler as the brains and then Mr. Freeze as the person that batman really has to to contend with physically. Would be a great team.
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Except Freeze is smarter than Riddler.
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1. He died.
2. They held a funeral for him.
3. You don't hold a funeral for someone who isn't dead.
In the opening segment of You Only Live Twice, Bond was "killed" and they had a "funeral", and then he spent the entire rest of the film shooting bad guys.
Also, it's comic books. No one stays dead in comics except Bucky, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben. Except now Bucky's alive. And Jason Todd, also. And Uncle Ben has made an alternate-universe appearance.
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1. He died.
2. They held a funeral for him.
3. You don't hold a funeral for someone who isn't dead.
In the opening segment of You Only Live Twice, Bond was "killed" and they had a "funeral", and then he spent the entire rest of the film shooting bad guys.
Also, it's comic books. No one stays dead in comics except Bucky, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben. Except now Bucky's alive. And Jason Todd, also. And Uncle Ben has made an alternate-universe appearance.
At least I know some ppl understand this.
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Conspiracy theory #4128
The mayor ends up becoming Riddler.
Just a thought, no real basis.
Discuss.
:)
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1. He died.
2. They held a funeral for him.
3. You don't hold a funeral for someone who isn't dead.
In the opening segment of You Only Live Twice, Bond was "killed" and they had a "funeral", and then he spent the entire rest of the film shooting bad guys.
Also, it's comic books. No one stays dead in comics except Bucky, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben. Except now Bucky's alive. And Jason Todd, also. And Uncle Ben has made an alternate-universe appearance.
True. No one stays dead in comics.But you don't hold a funeral for someone as important as Harvey Dent was with out a body. If anyone even tries to say "Oh, Harvey Dent was just unconscious. He got up and ran off and the entire city held a funeral for him without his body." NO! With someone as important as Harvey Dent was they wouldn't have a funeral without his body.
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1. He died.
2. They held a funeral for him.
3. You don't hold a funeral for someone who isn't dead.
In the opening segment of You Only Live Twice, Bond was "killed" and they had a "funeral", and then he spent the entire rest of the film shooting bad guys.
Also, it's comic books. No one stays dead in comics except Bucky, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben. Except now Bucky's alive. And Jason Todd, also. And Uncle Ben has made an alternate-universe appearance.
True. No one stays dead in comics.But you don't hold a funeral for someone as important as Harvey Dent was with out a body. If anyone even tries to say "Oh, Harvey Dent was just unconscious. He got up and ran off and the entire city held a funeral for him without his body." NO! With someone as important as Harvey Dent was they wouldn't have a funeral without his body.
Especially with the police commissoner knowing who Two-Face was. There's no way Harvey Dent can come back, he was buried and everything.
Riddler was twisted. He rigged an amusment park with deadly weapons and bad puns. What could be more twisted?
Losers ahead
But it needs to be twisted from a different prospective. The Riddler and Joker would be just similar enough to make me question if it would be worth it.
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I don't remember scarecrow dying. Didn't batman just tie him up and drive off?
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I don't remember scarecrow dying. Didn't batman just tie him up and drive off?
pretty sure his SUV or van or something blew up in one of the many awesome explosions in that movie. hospital anyone?
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Especially with the police commissoner knowing who Two-Face was. There's no way Harvey Dent can come back, he was buried and everything.
They didn't show this in the movie. They didn't show an open casket, a burial, nothing...
All they showed in the film, was a ceremony honoring Dent. That fall didn't kill him. Ever see Halloween?
Edit: Scarecrow did not die either
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Yeah I didn't remember him dying.
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I need to see this movie again.
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Especially with the police commissoner knowing who Two-Face was. There's no way Harvey Dent can come back, he was buried and everything.
They didn't show this in the movie. They didn't show an open casket, a burial, nothing...
All they showed in the film, was a ceremony honoring Dent. That fall didn't kill him. Ever see Halloween?
Edit: Scarecrow did not die either
The real scarecrow wasnt even in the movie.
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Especially with the police commissoner knowing who Two-Face was. There's no way Harvey Dent can come back, he was buried and everything.
They didn't show this in the movie. They didn't show an open casket, a burial, nothing...
All they showed in the film, was a ceremony honoring Dent. That fall didn't kill him. Ever see Halloween?
Edit: Scarecrow did not die either
So the guy with the scarecrow mask at the beginning was NOT the real scarecrow?
The real scarecrow wasnt even in the movie.
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No he was not.
Notice he was not in Glasses. Batman also comments that he doesn't want to see those guys out again, refering to both the fake batmen and the fake scarecrow, who are next to each other.
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LOL glasses don't necessarily seperate 1 identity from another.
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I know, I am commenting that though.
It wasn't the same actor either. I guess Rachel wasn't in the second movie either.
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Notice he was not in Glasses.
Surprisingly, that is also how we know that Clark Kent and Superman are two different people. ;)
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Hey, if it works for superheroes, it works for supervillians.
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It may have not been the same actor, but it was supposed to be the real scarecrow.
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I'm pretty sure it was the same actor.
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I'm pretty sure it was the same actor.
You are correct, sir. According to imdb, Scarecrow was played by Cillian Murphy in the Dark Knight.
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And if he was a fake then how did he gas that one guy? Remember, he didn't die in batman begins, he just got tasered in the face and rode off on his horse.
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And if he was a fake then how did he gas that one guy? Remember, he didn't die in batman begins, he just got tasered in the face and rode off on his horse.
he wasn't fake. it was the same actor. end of discussion.
sooooo
we're looking at:
Bane
Riddler
Penguin (as a side kick)
Catwoman
Mr. Freeze
any possible additions?
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And if he was a fake then how did he gas that one guy? Remember, he didn't die in batman begins, he just got tasered in the face and rode off on his horse.
he wasn't fake. it was the same actor. end of discussion.
sooooo
we're looking at:
Bane
Riddler
Penguin (as a side kick)
Catwoman
Mr. Freeze
any possible additions?
killer croc ,poison ivy or if joker's still alive, have him meet his sidekick quinn.
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Joker is still alive. He never dies, ever. They made a mistake in the first Batman, by killing off Joker.
But because Heath Ledger passed away, Nolan will probably NOT include The Joker in any more of his films.
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Poison Ivy might be a strong possibility, huh?
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Poison Ivy might be a strong possibility, huh?
What is your reasoning that she has a higher possibility than anyone else?
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Well she does have a higher possibility than, say, Mr. Freeze?
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I'd say Man Bat
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*spoiler alert*
I think that catwoman or poison ivy would be the next logical villainess. With the death of Rachael, Bruce Wayne has now lost his first love. This will make him susceptible to a rebound relationship that could prove unhealthy in the long run. Therefore having a female evil character would be more dangerous at this point in his life than any other.
It also would present the opportunity for a clear comparison of how the death of Rachael can turn one person bad (two-face), and another person better (Batman).
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that actually makes sense... pretty good. But if that's the case, wouldn't it make sense for it to be al Ghul's daughter? I doubt that would happen though. Im not even sure if al Ghul was actually hundred percent proclaimed dead already.
As for the scarecrow argument, that was the real scarecrow imo. Same actor, plus, he did try to hurt batman while having that villainous grin. Also, since scarecrow hasn't really been a main villain yet (him just being thrown out there time to time) then wouldn't it be great to see him as the main one with that drug he has.
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Poison Ivy might be a strong possibility, huh?
What is your reasoning that she has a higher possibility than anyone else?
Not stronger than everyone else, but a considerable possibility.
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scarecrow also popped up later in the movie, but didn't Two-Face kill him?
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You mean the "cop" with Rachel's name tag? That wasn't Scarecrow.
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You mean that scrizophrenic guy? That was not Scarecrow.
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looked like him, but there was another time, I personally don't remember it, but my friend remembers a guy that two-face kills who he thought was scarecrow.
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Man
bearbat ;D
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You mean that scrizophrenic guy? That was not Scarecrow.
do u remember the name of the guy? coz they said it in the movie but not in imdb... i think he myt be a clue perhaps? he looks dark and came from that famous asylum in DC comics
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Nope I have no idea. Rachel Dawes maybe, lol.
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You mean that scrizophrenic guy? That was not Scarecrow.
do u remember the name of the guy? coz they said it in the movie but not in imdb... i think he myt be a clue perhaps? he looks dark and came from that famous asylum in DC comics
You mean that famous asylum in the Batman universe where pretty much ALL of his foes end up / come from?
Aka: Arkham Asylum.
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yea... i always forget the name
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Scarecrow popped up EARLY in the movie, not later. I think he got away, but I don't remember... I've slept since I've seen the movie, so it's mostly gone.
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man-bat would be perfect for the next batman movie
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man-bat would be perfect for the next batman movie
That would be interesting.
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I was thinking about that guy that knew Bruce was Batman, you know the one who was going to rat him out on t.v. Well his name was Mr. Reese right, if u put it together is sounds like mysteries so he could possible be riddler. Don't know if I'm right but my friend was talking about it.
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Scarecrow popped up EARLY in the movie, not later. I think he got away, but I don't remember... I've slept since I've seen the movie, so it's mostly gone.
Thanks, Leonard. ;)
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I though my name was Isaac.... age is a horrible thing...
Who's this Leonard anyway? What does he want?
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I though my name was Isaac.... age is a horrible thing...
Who's this Leonard anyway? What does he want?
I'll PM the explanation.
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I was thinking about that guy that knew Bruce was Batman, you know the one who was going to rat him out on t.v. Well his name was Mr. Reese right, if u put it together is sounds like mysteries so he could possible be riddler. Don't know if I'm right but my friend was talking about it.
yea.. i mentioned that in the main post... pretty interestng actually
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But isn't the riddler's name Edward Nygma ???
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that has also been established
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But isn't the riddler's name Edward Nygma ???
Yes, E.Nygma. Which is how he gets "The Riddler".
See Batman: The animated series "If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?".
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Though probably not as the main villain, what about the mad hatter?
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I would be a bit worried to see the mad hatter brought to the screen considering his background.
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I would be a bit worried to see the mad hatter brought to the screen considering his background.
Disclaimer: I have only watched the animated series and haven't read any of the comics.
What's his background? As far as I know, he's model after the Mad Hatter in Alice In Wonderland and he uses cards to control people.
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Yes, which he invented to get his hands on a woman who didn't want him. His tricks, gimmik's etc aren't bad, but idk how well the reason he did it would go over.
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He's not really that popular of a villain anyways is he?
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Not really, I mean he is really cool though.
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So even though I didn't read the whole thread, here are my two cents.
First off, playing Joker killed Heath Ledger. After seeing the movie twice, I have no doubt. Playing such an incredibly dark role and making it convincing are NOT easy. Believe me, I should know. I'm just glad I didn't really have to SAY anything while playing satan...Ledger had to say a LOT about evil in the movie. And it haunted him. He was calling his ex-wife and saying he couldn't sleep at night because of it, so he was taking sleeping pills and anti-depressants, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was on heroin because of it as well. It's no wonder he O.D.'d. It makes me really sad because I can imagine what he was going through. The only way to play a role like that and live is through prayer, and I'm guessing Heath didn't know that, unfortunately.
On another note, there are rumors of the possibility of having Johnny Depp play Joker, and he's probably one of very few actors that could pull it off after Heath's stunning performance and leave audiences satisfied. Although, it is questionable whether or not Joker survived after getting those six sharp things from Batman's armor stuck in his chest. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Or, he may be in prison...as they gave the impression that police cut him down after Batman left. All this to say- either they decide that Joker is out of the picture or they get to work on making the next one twice as good as the first.
Just my thoughts,
~Britta
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I always knew Satan was a woman :P
Heath always wanted to be known as a different and unique actor. He's giog to be remembered as having given one of the best villianous performances of all-time. It may have killed him, but, to some extent, that's what he wanted. Unfortunately he did not know how to reach out to God for his comfort, so he ended up OD'ing,
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Johnny Depp as the Joker?....*shiver*
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just what we want. to kill off all of the remaining good actors.
lol
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....Although, it is questionable whether or not Joker survived after getting those six sharp things from Batman's armor stuck in his chest. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Or, he may be in prison...as they gave the impression that police cut him down after Batman left. All this to say- either they decide that Joker is out of the picture or they get to work on making the next one twice as good as the first.
It's a good theory, but Joker never dies... I think he's only "died" once in the comics, but it turned out, he was still alive, in the distant future.
But i have a question for all of you, if Nygma/Riddler was to be portrayed on screen again, under the direction of Nolan, who would play him?
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But i have a question for all of you, if Nygma/Riddler was to be portrayed on screen again, under the direction of Nolan, who would play him?
Brad Pitt. lol.
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Anthony Hopkins as Ra's Al Ghul. That would for the win be so much *drool*
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Didn;t Ra's Al Gul alredy appear in the first one?
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No.
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in batman begins he did and he's dead.
no ra's al gul
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He doesn't die. He's Ra's Al Ghul. Most dangerous Batman villain. He's gotta come back.
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Yea... I dont think that he was "clearly" dead in the first one... which would make sense if he appears again with his daughter and enter the intimate life of batman as a replacement to the loss of Rachel
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Yea... I dont think that he was "clearly" dead in the first one... which would make sense if he appears again with his daughter and enter the intimate life of batman as a replacement to the loss of Rachel
Assuming that she's dead.
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she's dead. that's not in question
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But Ra's was on a train that crashed and its in question wether or not he's dead? :scratch:
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he's Ra's Al Ghul he doesn't just die. Rachel is dead. just like that.
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Heh, OK. ;)
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Lazarus Pits nuff said.
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i would like to see some killer croc.
or have a meeting with Batman and superman
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A Batman superman pair ups aren't all that great. Because everyone has kyrptonite. Killer croc is DEFINATLY not a main villian. I would like to see Tim curry as the riddler. I think he could pull it off.
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Tom Cruse could come back as himself. They could duel to the death for Rachel. Tom Cruse is 10x as scary as the joker, and at least 3.5x as scary as Anthony Hopkins.
-Ross
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or have a meeting with Batman and superman
Hmm i dont think so... I actually dont like superman at all and prefer batman
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I like it when Superman fights Batman. But Superman's kind of weak as a Hero.
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I like it when Superman fights Batman. But Superman's kind of weak as a Hero.
and unrealistic
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Tom Cruse could come back as himself. They could duel to the death for Rachel. Tom Cruse is 10x as scary as the joker, and at least 3.5x as scary as Anthony Hopkins.
-Ross
Wyn.
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Yeah... Superman is completely out of the question. So far, Nolan's series has had ZERO people with superpowers, and I truely hope it stays that way.
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I think there will be two villains to fight Batman in next movie. Hilary Clinton and Barak Obama.
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I think there will be two villains to fight Batman in next movie. Hilary Clinton and Barak Obama.
ROFLMBO!
XD that's hilarious!
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yes. that would be amazing.
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How about Dracula?
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How about Dracula?
wow... that could actually work, with sticking with the dark side of the movie, yet keeping the theme of weird villains. I vote yes for dracula and penguin, since they normally appeared together. Good Point! :)
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dracula is not really a batman villian.
though the idea would be awesome to have a movie based off of the moviefrom the animeted series "The Batman"
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Tom Cruse could come back as himself. They could duel to the death for Rachel. Tom Cruse is 10x as scary as the joker, and at least 3.5x as scary as Anthony Hopkins.
-Ross
Wyn.
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Yeah... Superman is completely out of the question. So far, Nolan's series has had ZERO people with superpowers, and I truely hope it stays that way.
I do hope it stays that way. I love the semi-realism of the first two movies.
Gretchen
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The joker, the scarecrow, the penguin, and the guy who trained batman should team up
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Tom Cruse could come back as himself. They could duel to the death for Rachel. Tom Cruse is 10x as scary as the joker, and at least 3.5x as scary as Anthony Hopkins.
-Ross
Yeah he could wear his turtle neck and start talking about Scientology. ::)
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Then Lucius invents a speaker so large that it can rick roll the entire city, unconverting all who had fallen for the trap of scientology. Batman must then fight through the streets of Crusians, while wearing bat-earplugs, which only cancel out the voice signatures of Tom Cruse and quietly play Rick Astely's music incase the hoards attempt to convert him as well. He then needs to place the speaker in the center of the city, which happens to be the most infested with scientolombies. After placing the speaker, He must then go have an epic battle of the wits with Tom.
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Afterward, the ghost of L. Ron Hubbard Will appear flying on a giant vacuum which stinks all the cash out of the banks in Beverly Hills, he'll then fly into the air DBZ style and start singing a remix of Fat Joe's Make it Rain while trying to kill Batman by throwing handfuls of money at him.
-Ross
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i was thinking 2-face, but i'm pretty sure he died, cuz they had a funeral for him. he was awesome while he lasted.
but when Lucius said Bruce's armor would stop a cat, i think he was just trying to be funny and sarcastic. (by the way, he's in critical condition after a car wreck......Morgan Freeman, i mean)
i was thinking the Riddler, and Edward Nigma's alias is probably E. Nigma (like Enigma), so he could be it. but i think that Reese was the only one that had enough wit and cunning to be the Riddler.......
and by the way, Batman isn't a superhero. like Iron Man, thought still awesome, he's just a guy with lots of money, cool gadgets, and some experience in martial arts. Wolverine is a superhero
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master chi, your such a copy cat XD
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how? just posting my opinion.
and the Ravens are horrible now.... the '06 Ravens were t3h 0wn4g3
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i'm offended that you said that and look at your pic and sig compared to lamb's
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who cares?! it's an awesome, evil quotable movie!
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Someone might have already posted this but, Theres a rumor that the penguin and the riddler are going to be in batman 3.
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Someone might have already posted this but, Theres a rumor that the penguin and the riddler are going to be in batman 3.
penguin is weak and (IMO) is dumb because we already have a joker! there's not much difference, plus I'm not sure if either can be quite dark enough... although Joker surprised me.
Ra's Al Ghul's daughter as the villian
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Someone might have already posted this but, Theres a rumor that the penguin and the riddler are going to be in batman 3.
Although Nolan admitted that it would be very tricky, risky, and difficult to put in Penguin and some speculators also give Penguin a grade of D. The link is somewhere in the net... I have yet to look for it for I lost it.
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Funny Story...
So the other day, I was testing out my friend's new dust-buster, and I was thinking, "man, this thing really stinks up dirt in tight spaces way better than a vacuum." As I was dust busting a pile of old books, I came across a copy of Dumbo, and wondered "If an elephant stinks up peanuts through its trunk, can it eat them, or do they lodge in their sinus cavity, where the peanut clogs its nasal passages and chokes the elephant when he/she stinks in air. Afterwards, I wanted to post something on E-Z board about it, but for some reason in mid post, I started thinking about Manga, Fox News, George Bush, and the last five Left Behind books.
The moral of this story was something to do with censorship, but I don't really see how the two go together.
-Ross
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Someone might have already posted this but, Theres a rumor that the penguin and the riddler are going to be in batman 3.
penguin is weak and (IMO) is dumb because we already have a joker! there's not much difference, plus I'm not sure if either can be quite dark enough... although Joker surprised me.
Ra's Al Ghul's daughter as the villian
Weak? in what way? he holds the ability to fight judo, has umbrellas of death and an IQ way above most batman villians.
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Lol penguin fight judo? never knew that.
But I do know that the only villain with a higher IQ than Penguin would be the Joker.
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so penguin is brilliant. that only means if he's caught he's busted... IF he's caught. look at Joker... got free once he got caught
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The Joker doesn't care if he get's caught or not. After all, it's all...part...of the plan.
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lol, cell phone. I was like... "WHAT?!" and then... kabloom!
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It's Riddler.
Staples, That was easy.
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fantastic! My favorite villain! Now, who is playing him...Depp?
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you gotta be kidding me -_-
and i suppose they have a robin in mind for this movie
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bah, well played MJB, I followed your link...
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AWSOME.... but 2011? ugh too far
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SWEETNESS :thumbup: ;D :D :)
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Is this legit though? This can easily be photoshopped by someone
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http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/08/14/fan-created-dark-knight-sequel-movie-poster/
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bah, well played MJB, I followed your link...
I just thought the poster was cool. To be honest, it makes Riddler look a tad too much like The Joker for my taste.
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The post got my hopes up so much, and now I'm going to go cry. :(
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That is an amazing job for a fake poster though.
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AWSOME.... but 2011? ugh too far
If it comes out in 2011 it will be competing with "The Hobbit".
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AWSOME.... but 2011? ugh too far
If it comes out in 2011 it will be competing with "The Hobbit".
I'm sure that would be real competition for the sequel to the fastest movie to reach 400 Million.
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AWSOME.... but 2011? ugh too far
If it comes out in 2011 it will be competing with "The Hobbit".
I'm sure that would be real competition for the sequel to the fastest movie to reach 400 Million.
I thought they made 500m. :P
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don't forget the Avengers coming out in 2011... looks like there might be some compition
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don't forget the Avengers coming out in 2011... looks like there might be some compition
2012..... I think. And then there's Thor in 2009 and Captain America in 2011. Yeah, there will be competition. Fo Sho! ;)
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Plus Christian Bales Terminator
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There are so many movies coming out that it's going to make my head explode. :P
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Dont forget the next transformers
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don't forget the Avengers coming out in 2011... looks like there might be some compition
2012..... I think. And then there's Thor in 2009 and Captain America in 2011. Yeah, there will be competition. Fo Sho! ;)
oops
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Dont forget the next transformers
:miss:
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Also, do u know who the first choice for Thor is? Brad Pitt
Do u know who the second choice for Captain America is? Brad Pitt
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Also, do u know who the first choice for Thor is? Brad Pitt
That makes me want to puke.
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Also, do u know who the first choice for Thor is? Brad Pitt
Do u know who the second choice for Captain America is? Brad Pitt
I thought Hulk Hogan was in there somewhere
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Also, do u know who the first choice for Thor is? Brad Pitt
Do u know who the second choice for Captain America is? Brad Pitt
I thought Hulk Hogan was in there somewhere
U serious? thats terrible
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1) Ugh.... not Brad Pitt. They need someone bigger. Thor was a beast.
2) And who was the first choice for Captain America?
3) You have to be wrong. All these movies are building up for the avengers. So they won't have Thor and Captain America being portrayed with the same actors. Unless it's like Eddie Murphie, where he's everyone... :P
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3) You have to be wrong. All these movies are building up for the avengers. So they won't have Thor and Captain America being portrayed with the same actors. Unless it's like Eddie Murphie, where he's everyone... :P
Well Thor is scheduled to be released AFTER the Avengers.
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I thin the next villain will be penguin
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I thin the next villain will be penguin
no it's gonna be riddler
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no it's gonna be riddler
Could be both
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Why does the villain have to be from a past movie? I say they should use another villain.
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Clayface?
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as awesome as he is, he wouldn't fit the "realistic" mood of the new movies.
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Why does the villain have to be from a past movie? I say they should use another villain.
Because the past movies had most of the good ones:
Joker
Pinguin
Cat Woman
Riddler
Two Face
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
Though there are others that they haven't use that would be nice to see, it's hard to not want the above villains recreated into the new style.
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Well Thor is scheduled to be released AFTER the Avengers.
I think you're wrong, but I could be wrong too. Because the first avengers were Iron Man, Thor, Giant Man, and the Wasp. Captain America came along in chapter 4. So if they have Captain America in the new movie, they will definitely have Thor.... or at least they had better. And Marvel has always been pretty good about keeping with the theme of the originals.
Well, back on topic. Poison Ivy would not work, she's not realistic. Neither is the big guy, or Dracula. I think we're down to three main ones: Penguin, Mr. Freeze, Riddler. Not cat women she had her own movie.
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Oh they'll definitely have Thor...I'm sure of that. I'm saying they dont have to have the same actor for the independent movie, seeing as "The Avengers" comes earlier. But they probably should anyway.
Back on topic as well.
Nolan could always pull another "unpredictable move" and try using the Joker again...
Successful? probably not...
But who would have thought Ledger would make an AMAZING Joker, before last year.
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Well Thor is scheduled to be released AFTER the Avengers.
I think you're wrong, but I could be wrong too. Because the first avengers were Iron Man, Thor, Giant Man, and the Wasp. Captain America came along in chapter 4. So if they have Captain America in the new movie, they will definitely have Thor.... or at least they had better. And Marvel has always been pretty good about keeping with the theme of the originals.
back off topic. I believe the original avengers was Thor, Hulk, Iron Man and Antman
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Nolan has said he wouldn't be doing the Penguin at all; I don't have the link on me right now, but it can't be him.
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no it's gonna be riddler
Could be both
I honestly doubt I would go to that movie...
Nolan has said he wouldn't be doing the Penguin at all; I don't have the link on me right now, but it can't be him.
good
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I expect either Mitt Romney, Bob Portman, or Tim Pawlenty.
What's that you say? The wrong thread?!? Nevermind...
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I think we're down to three main ones: Penguin, Mr. Freeze, Riddler.
Add to that Bane. Bane was beefed up on a superdrug but had no superpowers to speak of.
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Nolan has said he wouldn't be doing the Penguin at all; I don't have the link on me right now, but it can't be him.
Ive actually read that before. If u find the link tell me. I also found one before where they actually graded each Batman Villain, I have yet to find the link
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I think we're down to three main ones: Penguin, Mr. Freeze, Riddler.
Add to that Bane. Bane was beefed up on a superdrug but had no superpowers to speak of.
Yeah, I just don't see bain fitting with the previous movies. I just can't picture it.
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Yet you see...Mr Freeze? ._.
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Mr. Freeze makes sense.
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The villain with the frozen fishbowl for a head?
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He's not going to be Schwarzenegger's version if he is done.
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Mr. Freeze makes sense.
...How? Exactly?
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How does Scarecrow make sense? ;)
They'll find a way
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How does Scarecrow make sense? ;)
They'll find a way
Yeah, okay, but...scarecrow has chemicals. Mr. Freeze has a freezegun and the ability to freeze stuff. Bain > Mr. Freeze as in terms of realistic-ness.
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Yeah, okay, but...scarecrow has chemicals. Mr. Freeze has a freezegun and the ability to freeze stuff.
With chemicals.
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Joker used gas which is a....
Fossle fuel... HA
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Don't forget Mr. Freeze was a leading researcher in cryogenics (freezing stuff) before he became Mr. Freeeeeze
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Don't forget Mr. Freeze was a leading researcher in cryogenics (freezing stuff) before he became Mr. Freeeeeze
right. But here's the other thing. I think Bane would make a worse movie. I mean, Mr. Freeze batman would have to stop by fighting, with his wicked awesome ninja skills. But Bane.... there's no way there could be a reasonable way that batman could stop him like that. It would be anti-climactic, and it would be batman finding ways to kill him, while running from Bane since there is no way he could hurt him with his normal abilities. And what would be the plot? Bane could just be shot, they don't need the batman. They could just find any scientist to figure out a way to stop him. Heck, maybe they should just hire iron man to take care of Bane...... :P
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Lol, Bane could be a sub villian, since he normaly is. Or maybe the mad hatter? I always liked him.
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Bane would be the brains behind the crime......Freeze would carry out the dirty work......I can see it now....
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XD I would love to see that, only because of how hard I would laugh.
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I'm really thinking Catwoman or Harley Quinn. With Rachel gone, Batman/Bruce needs a good female protagonist.
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Clayface and Twoface Team-Up...... (The Faceless Duo!)
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I'm really thinking Catwoman or Harley Quinn. With Rachel gone, Batman/Bruce needs a good female protagonist.
How I wish Harley would be in the next movie...but her only chance is if Teh Joker is in the next one....
She's my favorite of the villains
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I'm really thinking Catwoman or Harley Quinn. With Rachel gone, Batman/Bruce needs a good female protagonist.
How I wish Harley would be in the next movie...but her only chance is if Teh Joker is in the next one....
She's my favorite of the villains
Remember, the Joker is still alive even if Heath isn't. Besides, there's enough footage on the editing room floor that they could probably work some Hollywood magic to put Ledger's Joker into the next one with Harley.
What would be REALLY cool is to have both Harley and Catwoman in the next...pulling Batman this way and that. ;)
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Hah. Looks like this article suggests the catwoman... http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91673
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angelina would make such an awesome catwoman.
she's got the attitude for the part and johnny depp i'm not sure of for the riddler.
if heath was still alive he'd play an excellent riddler if he didn't play the joker in TDK
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It's basically been confirmed that the Penguin and Riddler are gonna be the next villains, with Johnny Depp as riddler. Do some research online, I has no links.
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It's basically been confirmed that the Penguin and Riddler are gonna be the next villains, with Johnny Depp as riddler. Do some research online, I has no links.
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Those two should be easy for Batman.
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Oh My Gosh The Penguin is British!
And Johny Depp has Oompaloompas!
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And Johny Depp has Oompaloompas!
and LOTS AND LOTS OF CANDY!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is the one thing JD would have on batman... unlimited energy
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Oh My Gosh The Penguin is British!
And Johny Depp has Oompaloompas!
How is the penguin british?
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It's basically been confirmed that the Penguin and Riddler are gonna be the next villains, with Johnny Depp as riddler. Do some research online, I has no links.
Btw, that's not true.... It's not yet official until it's official.
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Oh My Gosh The Penguin is British!
And Johny Depp has Oompaloompas!
How is the penguin british?
the umber-ella
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Idk I heard it somewhere in the news.... I think it was the radio...
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Oh My Gosh The Penguin is British!
And Johny Depp has Oompaloompas!
How is the penguin british?
the umber-ella
ooooooo haha i didnt even realize the color
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MR FREEZE!!
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Conversation settled.
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BANE THE MAN WHO BROKE THE BAT!
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Here are 2 things I know
1) Eddy Murphy is the riddler
2) cat woman is in the next one (with the riddler)
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Proof? Or Rumors?
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And how can Eddy Murphy be the riddler?
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mehhhh I saw it on the news when they found out. But still could be rumor though but i was just saying what I've found out by reading
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Hugh Laurie would be a good Riddler.
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Johny Depp (sp?) is going to play the Riddler
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The Riddler is that one guy who knows batmans identity. review this thread.
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Johny Depp (sp?) is going to play the Riddler
And how can Eddy Murphy be the riddler?
http://www.popeater.com/movies/article/eddie-murphy-as-the-riddler-seriously/281085 (http://www.popeater.com/movies/article/eddie-murphy-as-the-riddler-seriously/281085)
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well eddie does soud better then johnny depp.
and yes! finnaly a robin!lol
i'd love to see who plays the next poison ivy and catwoman as well as mr.freeze
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Im fine with Eddy Murphy or Johnny Depp, but i really cant see them doing Robin.
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well eddie does soud better then johnny depp.
ummmmmm no
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I will jump off a cliff if Robin is in the next movie unless they kill him off mid-way through
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I will jump off a cliff if Robin is in the next movie unless they kill him off mid-way through
take care now,bye bye then.
robin doesn't deserve to be killed off
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Tell that to the 1989 Batman readers ::)
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Shia shouldn't be Robin.
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Robin does deserve a painful death XD
The Riddler is that one guy who knows batmans identity. review this thread.
As does the joker :-p
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Tell that to the 1989 Batman readers ::)
only the 2nd robin got killed.
neither grayson or the teen titans robin got killed.
if robin does get killed, shia should play the 2nd robin
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Teen titans robin... just... *shivers* The teen titans robin shouldn't even exist....
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Teen titans robin... just... *shivers* The teen titans robin shouldn't even exist....
he's the same robin that got "joker-fied" on the movie "Batman Beyond: return of the joker"
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Welcome to why he shouldn't be there. Tim got jokerfied and quit the buisiness :-p
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Welcome to why he shouldn't be there. Tim got jokerfied and quit the buisiness :-p
but he didn't die as robin like the 2nd one did(and btw i don't read batman comics, i just read about it in this book with d/c hero,villian and sidekick profiles)
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No he did not. But I'd like nightwing to die :-p
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No he did not. But I'd like nightwing to die :-p
then if grayson died as robin then he wouldn't have became nightwing in the first place and we'd all be ranting about his death
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look i like robin don't kill him now number2 robin ;)
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Nolan absolutely hates the character of Robin, so I think it'd be VERY unlikely that one will appear in Batman 3. And since he's locked for two more Batman films after that, I think it's clear that Robin is out of the picture for the time being.
By the way, the script for Batman 3 has yet to lock. Casting probably won't happen until the studio locks the script and makes a budget. Anything you've heard about casting choices is likely speculation.
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1) I don't think Robin will be in Batman 3 for a few points, In TDK he doesn't like people helping him as you can see, unlike the other batman's he isn't a "team" player, and I just don't see a Robin in it.
2)Robin from teen titans was made up and was nothing like Robin in batman or the other teen titans.
3)As for the riddler I don't know i will be happy with anyone.
that's just my view...don't quote me if it's a flame,spam,insalt...
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Robin should not be in the next one. or he should die a slow and painful death.
bane should be the next villian.
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your all cruel.
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Scarecrow never died...his van was smashed?
Doesn't mean he's dead.
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Scarecrow never died...his van was smashed?
Doesn't mean he's dead.
no he just received very small parts in The Dark Knight :laugh:
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Ra's Al Ghul isn't dead. he jumped from the subway.
Scarecrow isn't dead.
Joker isn't dead.
Two-face, is, well, most likely dead.
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Joker isn't dead.
your right joker isn't dead.
but heath ledger is
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Joker will never be reprised until a new director.
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Joker will never be reprised until a new director.
If there was a new director, the new joker would probably be bombed because they would compare him to ledger. :)
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exactly they will not bring back the Joker in honor of Ledger's amazing performance
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exactly they will not bring back the Joker in honor of Ledger's amazing performance
no they'll replace joker like they replaced the original rachel dawes from batman begins
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exactly they will not bring back the Joker in honor of Ledger's amazing performance
no they'll replace joker like they replaced the original rachel dawes from batman begins
yeah, but i dont think people will really accept it. I mean, look how they reacted to ledger. The new guy, if they bring joker back, will be bashed. hard.
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exactly they will not bring back the Joker in honor of Ledger's amazing performance
no they'll replace joker like they replaced the original rachel dawes from batman begins
yeah, but i dont think people will really accept it. I mean, look how they reacted to ledger. The new guy, if they bring joker back, will be bashed. hard.
And the first Rachel in BB didn't make the film, Ledger's performance did without it the movie wouldn't have been as good
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exactly they will not bring back the Joker in honor of Ledger's amazing performance
no they'll replace joker like they replaced the original rachel dawes from batman begins
I like the old Rachel SO much better... she was more convincing in that role.
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It'll prolly take another 15-20 years before they put in a new Joker that actually is worth the praise Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger got.
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exactly they will not bring back the Joker in honor of Ledger's amazing performance
no they'll replace joker like they replaced the original rachel dawes from batman begins
I like the old Rachel SO much better... she was more convincing in that role.
Apparently the people at the Razzie awards don't agree with you on that one ::)
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Yeah, whatever... too many awards. I'm just saying that switching so soon... and I thought the old one was very good... seemed king of weird to me.
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Don't worry I don't agree with either
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Yeah, whatever... too many awards. I'm just saying that switching so soon... and I thought the old one was very good... seemed king of weird to me.
It could also be the fact that the original actress was either busy or didn't want to do it.
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Yeah, whatever... too many awards. I'm just saying that switching so soon... and I thought the old one was very good... seemed king of weird to me.
It could also be the fact that the original actress was either busy or didn't want to do it.
Which was not smart because of the outcome of the movie...
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BTW Claude Homer Fong, when I clicked on your youtube link, it came up with this:
the URL contained a malformed video ID.
Also, it didn't have pleasant videos under it either.
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It'll prolly take another 15-20 years before they put in a new Joker that actually is worth the praise Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger got.
I disagree. Johnny Depp could play the Joker right now and do a phenomenal job.
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the URL contained a malformed video ID.
good catch. Somehow the last 2 letters got erased.
It'll prolly take another 15-20 years before they put in a new Joker that actually is worth the praise Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger got.
I disagree. Johnny Depp could play the Joker right now and do a phenomenal job.
That's true, but still, the emotions are still high for Heath Ledger for others to accept Johnny Depp
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You know, I'm not a big Batman fanatic myself, but wasn't Two-Face a more...perennial villain? He only lasted about half an hour in the movie. :-\
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You know, I'm not a big Batman fanatic myself, but wasn't Two-Face a more...perennial villain? He only lasted about half an hour in the movie. :-\
Well rule of comic books, No one stays dead.
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I suppose. :-\
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The issue is you need death in movies to envoke emotion without it a dramatic movie like batman falls short because there is no loss to the main character.
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I presume the next batman villans will be:
Catwoman
Penguin (Johnny Depp)
Harley Quinn
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I just watched Dark Knight again and was thinking that the employee who finds out that Mr. Wayne is batman could be Riddler (since he already knows who Batman is).
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there can't be a harley quinn if there isn't a person to replace heath ledger as the joker
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the question is how can there be a harley quinn if there isn't someone to replace heath ledger as the joker?
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I just watched Dark Knight again and was thinking that the employee who finds out that Mr. Wayne is batman could be Riddler (since he already knows who Batman is).
I thought I remembered reading this very same thought on this thread a long time ago. So I looked and what do you know I did. On the very first post.
2) Riddler? I'm guessing he was hinted in the movie...Reese. I saw this in the internet...Reese is the guy who Joker said must die in 60 minutes or a hospital explodes... if you pronounce Mr. Reese quickly, it sounds like Mysteries. And he knows Batman's true identity. And he's young
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I just watched Dark Knight again and was thinking that the employee who finds out that Mr. Wayne is batman could be Riddler (since he already knows who Batman is).
I thought I remembered reading this very same thought on this thread a long time ago. So I looked and what do you know I did. On the very first post.
2) Riddler? I'm guessing he was hinted in the movie...Reese. I saw this in the internet...Reese is the guy who Joker said must die in 60 minutes or a hospital explodes... if you pronounce Mr. Reese quickly, it sounds like Mysteries. And he knows Batman's true identity. And he's young
And here I thought I was special :P.
I hope they do bring in Riddler (since he was my favorite villain). It would be interesting how they make his green costume look darker/realistic.
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Riddler would be way too much like Joker
but DC can do anything tthey want :)
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How about instead of just listing people we would like to see in it (go Riddler), we take the person who we want and explain how they will fit into the story that would occur after Dark Knight.
Riddler:
After failing at telling who Batman is on TV, Mr. Reese decides that it would be more fun (and torturous to the people who tried to kill him) if he left riddles all over the place about who Batman really is.
Bain (don't care much for him but this would fit him in nicely):
After multiple failed attempts to capture Batman, Some of Gotham's police goes behind Gordan's back and hire Bain to capture him, not completely understanding what Bain is really capable of.
Any other ideas?
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Catwoman begins as a hero-like figure and helps out Gotham, but is gets mad about Batman overshadowing her, even when he is a criminal. She decides to try to turn him into the cops.
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You know what I have yet to see in the recent superhero movies? - A villain that lasts more than one movie. :-\ I have a feeling they will do this with the Joker, though.
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How about instead of just listing people we would like to see in it (go Riddler), we take the person who we want and explain how they will fit into the story that would occur after Dark Knight.
I read this and once again thought "didn't I do that forever ago in this thread"? So I looked back and yes I did. If people are coming to a discussion late, I would suggest reading the whole thread before posting to it. Otherwise it does look a bit silly :) I'm not upset at all, just posting friendly advice.
I think that catwoman or poison ivy would be the next logical villainess. With the death of Rachael, Bruce Wayne has now lost his first love. This will make him susceptible to a rebound relationship that could prove unhealthy in the long run. Therefore having a female evil character would be more dangerous at this point in his life than any other.
It also would present the opportunity for a clear comparison of how the death of Rachael can turn one person bad (two-face), and another person better (Batman).
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How about instead of just listing people we would like to see in it (go Riddler), we take the person who we want and explain how they will fit into the story that would occur after Dark Knight.
I read this and once again thought "didn't I do that forever ago in this thread"? So I looked back and yes I did. If people are coming to a discussion late, I would suggest reading the whole thread before posting to it. Otherwise it does look a bit silly :) I'm not upset at all, just posting friendly advice.
However, just looking at the last few pages, people were just listing villains they want to see without inserting a story of how it would play out after Dark Night. Thanks, though :)
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You know what I have yet to see in the recent superhero movies? - A villain that lasts more than one movie. :-\ I have a feeling they will do this with the Joker, though.
Scarecrow :P
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Rachel will be the next villian. Catwoman. DUN DUN DUN!
If Joker can turn Harvey, then it's possible that somehow she lived by evil means.
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If you really watch The Dark knight and think about all they do with Joker, my friends and I all believe that the original plan was to have Joker come back in the third movie and create so many problems that the city cries out for Batman to return. However, as we all know Heath Ledger's tragic death may have put a huge stop to this plan. I really believe that if Heath was still alive we would see the return of the Joker with a partner.
However I think Bane now is a very likely villian and I would feel that if they have Bane they would have to have a Robin so that when Batman is injured (broken back like in the comics) there is a fill in Batman for a time. I don't think Robin should be as young as normally portrayed but instead a college student age. Of course he would need to have a better costume, or maybe they simply bring in Nightwing and just skip the Robin part.
Riddler would be fun too as long as they keep him dark.
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maybe Reese will be Robin?
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maybe Reese will be Robin?
He's a wimp, so no. :)
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maybe Reese will be Robin?
He's a wimp, so I'm guessing so.
exactly. Robin will die a horrible death.
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My brother thinks the young boy that sees Batman spying & hangs out with Rachel during the climax of the first film will probably play out to be Robin. Seems like a 2010-2012 release would make the boy old enough (Robin was introduced at an age around 8th-10th grade). However, Nolan's dislike of the character will probably negate that logic, and the purpose of Robin was to bring in a younger audience -- hard to do with a PG-13 series.
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Wow all this talk and no one can see that Harley Quinn might make an apperance?
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Wow all this talk and no one can see that Harley Quinn might make an apperance?
did you read this whole thread? we went over about every single villian and the ones that stood out were
The return of:
Ra's Al Ghul
The Joker
Two-face
or introducing:
Bain
Catwoman
Riddler
Penguin
I presume the next batman villans will be:
...
Harley Quinn
but I don't see him in the running
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I like the idea of Riddler, and Robin definitely needs to be introduced.
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I like the idea of Riddler, and Robin definitely needs to be introduced.
As long as he's killed mid-way through
and I really hope we get either the Penguin or Mr. Freeze
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I like the idea of Riddler, and Robin definitely needs to be introduced.
As long as he's killed mid-way through
and I really hope we get either the Penguin or Mr. Freeze
The next villian should be Superman.
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I like the idea of Riddler, and Robin definitely needs to be introduced.
As long as he's killed mid-way through
and I really hope we get either the Penguin or Mr. Freeze
The next villain should be Superman.
Ah TDKR interesting.......
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The next villian should be Superman.
I have actually enjoyed the cartoon versions of Batman Meets Superman, from the Batman Animated Series. Bruce Wayne comes to Metropolis and dates Lois Lane. Superman uses his x-ray vision to find out who Batman really is. Batman uses a tracking device to learn Superman's secret identity. The plot twists and rivalry were quite fun to watch.
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Wow all this talk and no one can see that Harley Quinn might make an apperance?
I presume the next batman villans will be:
...
Harley Quinn
but I don't see him in the running
uh dude, harley quinn is a girl :P
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The next villian should be Superman.
I have actually enjoyed the cartoon versions of Batman Meets Superman, from the Batman Animated Series. Bruce Wayne comes to Metropolis and dates Lois Lane. Superman uses his x-ray vision to find out who Batman really is. Batman uses a tracking device to learn Superman's secret identity. The plot twists and rivalry were quite fun to watch.
I also liked the episode when Bruce was captured and they brought in Superman to try and pretend to be Batman (Robin: "Kick the table over". Superman dressed up at batman kicks the table and it shatters against the opposite wall).
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I like the idea of Riddler, and Robin definitely needs to be introduced.
As long as he's killed mid-way through
and I really hope we get either the Penguin or Mr. Freeze
I've completely forgot about Mr Freeze (besides seeing the big ice cube a few pages back). His story can definitely be made dark (maybe his wife is one of the people who was in the hospital that Joker blew up).
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Except they got everyone out of the hospital. I could see a dark Mr. Freeze, but I don't think he'd lend himself to the new direction as well as Bane or Riddler or Ra's Al Guhl (via lazarus pits) or even Poison Ivy.
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Except they got everyone out of the hospital. I could see a dark Mr. Freeze, but I don't think he'd lend himself to the new direction as well as Bane or Riddler or Ra's Al Guhl (via lazarus pits) or even Poison Ivy.
Tru dat.
Even though I don't care much for Bane, I think he would make the most sense with how the last one ended.
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Wow all this talk and no one can see that Harley Quinn might make an apperance?
I presume the next batman villans will be:
...
Harley Quinn
but I don't see him in the running
uh dude, harley quinn is a girl :P
I fail to see why you posted this and sent this to my inbox. oh well, I could care less, cuz (IMO) Bain should be the next villian. or the return of Ra's Al Ghul. or both.
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I want Ra's Al Ghul. But that is only cuz I love qui-gon's voice.
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I want Ra's Al Ghul. But that is only cuz I love qui-gon's voice.
Maybe Ra's Al Ghul could appear as a little shimmery ghost figure and give advice to other villians that are still alive. :p
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I want Ra's Al Ghul. But that is only cuz I love qui-gon's voice.
Maybe Ra's Al Ghul could appear as a little shimmery ghost figure and give advice to other villians that are still alive. :p
and those villians would be?
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I want Ra's Al Ghul. But that is only cuz I love qui-gon's voice.
Maybe Ra's Al Ghul could appear as a little shimmery ghost figure and give advice to other villians that are still alive. :p
and those villians would be?
scarecrow
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I want Ra's Al Ghul. But that is only cuz I love qui-gon's voice.
Maybe Ra's Al Ghul could appear as a little shimmery ghost figure and give advice to other villians that are still alive. :p
and those villians would be?
Superman or Yoda.
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I want Ra's Al Ghul. But that is only cuz I love qui-gon's voice.
Maybe Ra's Al Ghul could appear as a little shimmery ghost figure and give advice to other villians that are still alive. :p
and those villians would be?
Superman or Yoda.
Don't forget Darth Vader. Tossing any of those characters into something=100% win.
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I want Ra's Al Ghul. But that is only cuz I love qui-gon's voice.
Maybe Ra's Al Ghul could appear as a little shimmery ghost figure and give advice to other villians that are still alive. :p
and those villians would be?
Superman or Yoda.
Don't forget Darth Vader. Tossing any of those characters into something=100% win.
Maybe Darth Maul but not Vader. I would have Robin really be the young Annikin Skywalker.
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I want Ra's Al Ghul. But that is only cuz I love qui-gon's voice.
Maybe Ra's Al Ghul could appear as a little shimmery ghost figure and give advice to other villians that are still alive. :p
and those villians would be?
Superman or Yoda.
Don't forget Darth Vader. Tossing any of those characters into something=100% win.
Maybe Darth Maul but not Vader. I would have Robin really be the young Annikin Skywalker.
I think we're forgetting Frodo Baggins. He could be Robin, and finally die a horrible death.
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I can't believe this topic is still going on...
But I want Iron Man and Batman to face off, so that the world can see how much better Iron Man is! ;)
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but Iron Man would lose. Batman's inside batman's outfit is a ninja. Iron Man's hunk of metal is merely a man.
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but Iron Man would lose. Batman's inside batman's outfit is a ninja. Iron Man's hunk of metal is merely a man.
with guns... iron man is at a whole different level. Batman couldn't even harm him.
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Batman TDK was dissed sooo badly at Oscar nominations! Heath Ledger was the only nomination they had.
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Yeah I was kinda mad about that.
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Well they couldn't nominate the muble (gordon) the batrasp(batman). I think two face did deserve a nomination though.
but Iron Man would lose. Batman's inside batman's outfit is a ninja. Iron Man's hunk of metal is merely a man.
with guns... iron man is at a whole different level. Batman couldn't even harm him.
Batman always wins, why? he's batman. Batman doesn't need a helmet in space. Why? He's batman. Batman can swing on a cable into glass windows and his cape won't even be scratched. Why? he's batman. Batman owns a million dollar buisiness to fund his research, without anyone finding out where his money is going. Why? He's batman.
Any questions? Yes? Why? He's batman.
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Batman TDK was dissed sooo badly at Oscar nominations! Heath Ledger was the only nomination they had.
Only major nomination. They had seven minor nods, including VFX. Still think it should've taken a best picture spot, however...
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but Iron Man would lose. Batman's inside batman's outfit is a ninja. Iron Man's hunk of metal is merely a man.
with guns... iron man is at a whole different level. Batman couldn't even harm him.
batman's a ninja. he can harm anybody at any time without a scratch on him, he just likes to make a fight look good.
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Well they couldn't nominate the muble (gordon) the batrasp(batman). I think two face did deserve a nomination though.
but Iron Man would lose. Batman's inside batman's outfit is a ninja. Iron Man's hunk of metal is merely a man.
with guns... iron man is at a whole different level. Batman couldn't even harm him.
Batman always wins, why? he's batman. Batman doesn't need a helmet in space. Why? He's batman. Batman can swing on a cable into glass windows and his cape won't even be scratched. Why? he's batman. Batman owns a million dollar buisiness to fund his research, without anyone finding out where his money is going. Why? He's batman.
Any questions? Yes? Why? He's batman.
I'm pretty sure that's Chuck Norris...
And seriously, skill against skill, machine against machine, iron man would win. Batman can't really harm him. Baterangs vs. Laser beams? I think we know which one would win.
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Well they couldn't nominate the muble (gordon) the batrasp(batman). I think two face did deserve a nomination though.
but Iron Man would lose. Batman's inside batman's outfit is a ninja. Iron Man's hunk of metal is merely a man.
with guns... iron man is at a whole different level. Batman couldn't even harm him.
Batman always wins, why? he's batman. Batman doesn't need a helmet in space. Why? He's batman. Batman can swing on a cable into glass windows and his cape won't even be scratched. Why? he's batman. Batman owns a million dollar buisiness to fund his research, without anyone finding out where his money is going. Why? He's batman.
Any questions? Yes? Why? He's batman.
I'm pretty sure that's Chuck Norris...
And seriously, skill against skill, machine against machine, iron man would win. Batman can't really harm him. Baterangs vs. Laser beams? I think we know which one would win.
EMP Ironman...no tech now :).
Seriously now, Batman has broken in and out of the Pentagon.
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Well they couldn't nominate the muble (gordon) the batrasp(batman). I think two face did deserve a nomination though.
but Iron Man would lose. Batman's inside batman's outfit is a ninja. Iron Man's hunk of metal is merely a man.
with guns... iron man is at a whole different level. Batman couldn't even harm him.
Batman always wins, why? he's batman. Batman doesn't need a helmet in space. Why? He's batman. Batman can swing on a cable into glass windows and his cape won't even be scratched. Why? he's batman. Batman owns a million dollar buisiness to fund his research, without anyone finding out where his money is going. Why? He's batman.
Any questions? Yes? Why? He's batman.
I'm pretty sure that's Chuck Norris...
And seriously, skill against skill, machine against machine, iron man would win. Batman can't really harm him. Baterangs vs. Laser beams? I think we know which one would win.
EMP Ironman...no tech now :).
Seriously now, Batman has broken in and out of the Pentagon.
Doubly seriously, Batman has defeated Superman in hand-to-hand combat. I mean sure the Green Lantern helped him and all, but still...
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Maybe the next "villain" should be Chuck Norris so we can see that epic fight :P
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Well they couldn't nominate the muble (gordon) the batrasp(batman). I think two face did deserve a nomination though.
but Iron Man would lose. Batman's inside batman's outfit is a ninja. Iron Man's hunk of metal is merely a man.
with guns... iron man is at a whole different level. Batman couldn't even harm him.
Batman always wins, why? he's batman. Batman doesn't need a helmet in space. Why? He's batman. Batman can swing on a cable into glass windows and his cape won't even be scratched. Why? he's batman. Batman owns a million dollar buisiness to fund his research, without anyone finding out where his money is going. Why? He's batman.
Any questions? Yes? Why? He's batman.
I'm pretty sure that's Chuck Norris...
And seriously, skill against skill, machine against machine, iron man would win. Batman can't really harm him. Baterangs vs. Laser beams? I think we know which one would win.
Iron Man's laser beams couldn't touch him. he's batman. he's a ninja. he could take off all the Iron Man's armor while Iron Man is trying to find where he is.
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Just to feed the raging debate...
http://www.youtube.com/v/NlLeCu63HCA&hl=en&fs=1 (http://www.youtube.com/v/NlLeCu63HCA&hl=en&fs=1)
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Stop! My sides are aching!!
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obviously batman wins. "I'm a Marvel." "I'm Batman." end of story.
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as the joker says in TDK:
"WOO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!"
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I couldn't get tickets to Kung Fu Panda, so I saw that clown shooting an M-16 on a bus.
epic wyn.
I AM the night.
I honestly will be talking about this for years to come.
as the joker says in TDK:
"WOO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!"
immediately followed by "And I thought MY jokes were bad!"
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I couldn't get tickets to Kung Fu Panda, so I saw that clown shooting an M-16 on a bus.
epic wyn.
+1 but
"I'm my own worst enemy. Great the kids these days love existentialism"
but this is a close second
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true-dat.
"wonder woman."
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And seriously, skill against skill, machine against machine, iron man would win. Batman can't really harm him. Baterangs vs. Laser beams? I think we know which one would win.
What you are not taking into account is the Bat Computer. After a first exploratory encounter with IronMan, it would only be a matter of time before Batman used the Bat Computer to crack into his system and gain complete control over the IronMan suit. There wouldn't even end up being a fight. There would just be Batman making Tony Stark look silly by using his suit as a puppet.
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And seriously, skill against skill, machine against machine, iron man would win. Batman can't really harm him. Baterangs vs. Laser beams? I think we know which one would win.
What you are not taking into account is the Bat Computer. After a first exploratory encounter with IronMan, it would only be a matter of time before Batman used the Bat Computer to crack into his system and gain complete control over the IronMan suit. There wouldn't even end up being a fight. There would just be Batman making Tony Stark look silly by using his suit as a puppet.
it doesn't take Batman to make Tony Stark look silly, he does that well enough by himself. I'm sure walking around in iron suits will be the next new fashion.
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As does walking around in hockey pants.
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As does walking around in hockey pants.
it's not hockey pants! it's a very VERY expensive suit that is not made of iron. I'd buy it, if I had the money. I wouldn't buy a iron suit to walk around in every day... the jetpack though...
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man that clip is hiralus!lolololoololollo haw
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And seriously, skill against skill, machine against machine, iron man would win. Batman can't really harm him. Baterangs vs. Laser beams? I think we know which one would win.
What you are not taking into account is the Bat Computer. After a first exploratory encounter with IronMan, it would only be a matter of time before Batman used the Bat Computer to crack into his system and gain complete control over the IronMan suit. There wouldn't even end up being a fight. There would just be Batman making Tony Stark look silly by using his suit as a puppet.
...and Batman saying, "Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
:D
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I couldn't get tickets to Kung Fu Panda, so I saw that clown shooting an M-16 on a bus.
epic wyn.
I AM the night.
I honestly will be talking about this for years to come.
as the joker says in TDK:
"WOO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!"
immediately followed by "And I thought MY jokes were bad!"
n that was after the "ooh-hee-ha aha" laugh.
the "woo ha ha ha ha" laugh was in the truck as he was trying to kill harvey
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Someone has seen that movie a few too many times.
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Someone has seen that movie a few too many times.
+1
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Heath LEdger won supporting actor in SAG awards. It's pretty much a lock from here on
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bane bane bane bane bane bane bane in before the lock
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Not the 'lock' he was refering to, but I think both are good assumptions...
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i think bane should be in it.
i mean batman and robin did kill that franchise with the costume mis-haps and they made bane stupid when he's suppose to be intellegent
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The next Batman villain is Obama.
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unlocked wow.
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The way he's going, Christian Bale will be the next villain. :P
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Haha... yes... Batman III, my own worst enemy. :D
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Haha... yes... Batman III, my own worst enemy. :D
'cuz kids are real big on existentialism.
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Maybe Michael Phelps could be the next villain.
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Riddler would be sweet, if done right.
Mr. Freeze has some potential, but they should call him something less goofy.
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dude it's ALLWAYS been Mr.freeze!
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Wait. What? When?
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Wait. What? When?
i guess that leaves a : where, why, and how, eh?
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Wait. What? When?
i guess that leaves a : where, why, and how, eh?
Go TMNT!!!
I would still want Riddler to be the next one
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Wait. What? When?
i guess that leaves a : where, why, and how, eh?
Go TMNT!!!
I would still want Riddler to be the next one
naw.. the next villain should be like something big.... oh i dont know just somthing that destroys the city..
OH! YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE REALY COOL TO SEE? batman V.S iron man
i can se it now BOOM! BANG! POW!
except for the fact that Marvel and Dc have kind of a movie competition.... i doubt they would team up. ;)
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Wait. What? When?
i guess that leaves a : where, why, and how, eh?
Go TMNT!!!
I would still want Riddler to be the next one
naw.. the next villain should be like something big.... oh i dont know just somthing that destroys the city..
OH! YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE REALY COOL TO SEE? batman V.S iron man
i can se it now BOOM! BANG! POW!
It would be more like (batman)POW (batman)POW (iron man)BOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!
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more like iron man:boom batman:BOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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Batman doesnt have guns. Ironman does. Touche
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He has batarangs though.
Know why?
Because he's batman.
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He has batarangs though.
Know why?
Because he's batman.
lolz.
we did we revive the whole Batman vs. Ironman thing? Batman's a ninja. Batman has no fear (well... except of Chuck Norris). Ironman fears Batman.
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It all depends on whether DC or MARVEL is better. (imo, marvel is waaaayyyy better)
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Who else does DC have again?
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Wonderwoman, Flash, Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, Hunter, and so on and so forth
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DC is SO better than marvel one:there older Two:come on they got superman and batman 3:there more intesting!
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MARVEL has Spider-man, Hulk, Wolverine, Daredevil, and Chuck Norris.
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no redemption has chuck norris! ;D
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Well I like Dc and Marvel, But before you kill me hear me out.
DC has the best villians. Can anyone claim the infamy the Joker, Mr. Freeze, etc. have?
Marvel has the best heroes, Gambit, 'nuff said.
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DC now has Dr. Manhattan. ;)
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Gambit FTW. Joker FTW. I say it's a toss up.
on a side note, anybody know what DC stands for? Decent criminals?
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DC now has Dr. Manhattan. ;)
Now has? The graphic novel has been out for a while. But add Rorschach to that list.
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DC now has Dr. Manhattan. ;)
Now has? The graphic novel has been out for a while. But add Rorschach to that list.
To exploit, that is. ;)
And I thought I kept hearing Horshack...
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsk1.yt-thm-a03.yimg.com%2Fimage%2F3c4f8867a29efe62&hash=7cddefaaf8f55de51e939a470ff46514a1fc8855)
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on a side note, anybody know what DC stands for? Decent criminals?
Detective Comics (one of its first series).
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Marvel is an overall better company but DC has Batman 'nuff said
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Marvel is an overall better company but DC has Batman 'nuff said
before the movie's came out, I would have said Spiderman over Batman anyday... but then there was Ra's Al Ghul, and he became my favorite villian... next to Saruman and Sauron, of course. and now Joker is up there too, though, I still think a ninja could totally beat a maniac in a battle of the bad guys... just my opinion.
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Have all of you forgotten Green Arrow?? ;)
I think Marvel is, how to say this, "bigger", while DC is "better". ;D
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I'd put my money on Snake Eyes vs. any of your heroes or villains.
And as for The Joker, I think he borrowed his fashion statement from this guy:
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Have all of you forgotten Green Arrow?? ;)
I think Marvel is, how to say this, "bigger and better", while DC has "Batman". ;D
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Gambit is awesome. I don't know much about archangel.
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Or captain America! Wait... ;)
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it's not fair gambit wasn't in an x-men movie.
he's a cool mutant with his ability to make playing cards explode.
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X-men, origins. It's coming, and gambit is in it.