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Title: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: lightningninja on September 03, 2010, 08:18:54 PM: Well I started playing Yu-Gi-Oh (end of story I won't discuss the game), but they do something called milling -- playing things from the discard pile.

So I was thinking... this could add a very cool aspect to Redemption. Maybe make a few cards that can use things in the discard pile: A hero that can play an enhancement from there, a character that negates all NT enhancements while he is in the discard pile, abilities like that.

I think this would add a whole other aspect to Redemption, and with 10-15 cards with introduce a brand new theme that would not only allow for a whole new level of strategy, but would also bring in some old cards (use evil spawn on yourself, jepthah, gates of hell, etc.)

Does anyone else think that this would be a cool strategy to consider building up?
Title: Re: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: Red on September 03, 2010, 09:34:20 PM: Milling is deck d/c.
Title: Re: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: Master KChief on September 03, 2010, 10:49:43 PM: red is correct, milling is discarding cards from deck. the mechanic you describe is just activating cards from grave. mtg has been doing this longer than yugioh...its called flashback.
Title: Re: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 03, 2010, 11:54:13 PM: I've proposed Necromancer and Witch of Endor card ideas that work like this. I don't think it should be a whole theme, but I would like the see those cards and maybe a few more made.
Title: Re: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: lightningninja on September 04, 2010, 04:17:15 AM: What I mean is that milling isn't used as a strategy, because 90% of the time it's a stupid move to discard cards off of your own deck. But if you had cards that benefited from that... I think that it would be awesome.
Title: Re: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: Master KChief on September 04, 2010, 06:37:51 AM: ...what? there are plenty of viable mill cards in redemption...namely gabriel, given over to egypt, and pithom when it comes out. what you are proposing is something entirely different...cards activating while in discard pile. at that point, then yes, milling cards from your own deck would be a hand-in-hand strategy. i used to use kings gabriel so i could discard enhancements to use with twice afflicted without having to wait to draw them.
Title: Re: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: lightningninja on September 05, 2010, 03:45:52 PM: Milling does not equal any time you discard a card off of a draw pile. Milling is a strategy that involves discarding as many cards from your OWN draw pile as you can, then almost always using cards that either benefit from being discarded or play other cards that get cards out of your discard pile.

It's often reffered to as inverse searching. If everything is discarded, you can play cards that search your discard instead of your deck, and it gets the same job done. But as of now, there's basically no reason to ever discard your own cards, and no reason to do so even if you could. But I think that if we added some awesome cards that benefit from discarding cards off of your OWN deck, it could be a really fun strategy.
Title: Re: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: Master KChief on September 05, 2010, 04:44:44 PM: Quote from: yugioh.wikia.com
Origin: The name "Mill Deck" comes from Millstone, a card in the first widely-popular TCG, Magic the Gathering. Millstone allows the user to put two cards from the top of one player's deck (or, "library" in Magic), into their graveyard; there are dozens of other cards like this in Magic, but because Millstone was the first, the act of putting cards from the deck into the discard pile directly became known as "Milling." Decks that centered around the alternate win-condition of depleting one's opponents' decks of cards became known as "Mill Decks," a term that has since spread to most other card games with this win condition.

Milling does not equal any time you discard a card off of a draw pile.

yes, yes it clearly does.
Title: Re: Some ideas to consider?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on September 05, 2010, 05:31:51 PM: The chief is right LN. (Says the person running a gold mill deck)