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« on: March 20, 2012, 08:24:45 PM »
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why ban pokemon thread
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 08:25:45 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 08:29:58 PM »
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I would assume it has to do with this thread.

I guess Schaef's return means that he's going back to some older forum rules. Either that or Doug hacked into Schaef's account.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 08:41:54 PM »
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While this thread was meant to be humorous, I do find it a bit funny that we're suddenly enforcing the pokemon rule, which hasn't been enforced in about four years.
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 08:52:36 PM »
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While this thread was meant to be humorous, I do find it a bit funny that we're suddenly enforcing the pokemon rule, which hasn't been enforced in about four years.



Now it's humorous.

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 08:57:14 PM »
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Only if we discuss.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 09:02:25 PM »
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This is on topic with the original discussion:

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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 09:16:18 PM »
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inb4 lock

Still not understand why pokemon of all things banned

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 09:23:18 PM »
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yeah. pokemon is harmless harmless.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 10:38:49 PM »
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Some people think pokemon is from the devil. Why, I don't know.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 11:49:05 PM »
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Some people think pokemon is from the devil. Why, I don't know.
People think everything is from the devil.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 11:58:02 PM »
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Pokemon is quite Satanic to be honest, check out this video it's very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5vZ14Ozqzw&feature=related
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 11:59:36 PM »
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in b4 flame war

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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2012, 12:05:20 AM »
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If you look for the devil you can find him in anything. That's not the fault of the actual thing, you went looking for him

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2012, 12:17:24 AM »
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Pokemon is quite Satanic to be honest, check out this video it's very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5vZ14Ozqzw&feature=related

I'm watching that video and only six minutes in. A few things have come to my attention:
1. That mullet is clearly not of God.
2. Enchanters are people enchant? Wowzorz.
3. He just implied that most of the male members of the congregation were abominations.

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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 12:34:42 AM »
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For those who don't want to watch it, it actually is interesting (been watching for a bit now, and found the Pokemon section as well).

The problem with any of this is that, as pointed out, you can find symbols or symbology anywhere you look.  The fact that Poliwhirl has a swirly on his stomach does not mean that it is the occult symbol of male fertility.

The speaker is very knowledgeable, but he has no real experience with Pokemon (this is very clear from his statements on the various Pokemon), and does not delve any deeper than the symbol on Poliwhirl and an insinuation that Pikachu's tail is in the shape of an occult symbol.  He distorts what each word means to achieve his purpose, which makes me uncomfortable with his premise.

Symbols have power because we fear them and grant them that power.  If we are truly children in Christ, we have no need to fear them.

He does have a point about commercialism and instilling a desire to control and own everything, but we have to deal with that in any endeavor we pursue.

HOWEVER, ON WHETHER TO HAVE CONTROVERSY:  If something would cause your brother to stumble, it is something you should avoid exposing him to.  The example from the bible is meat sacrificed to idols.  It has no power, and perhaps you do not fear it.  But, if your brother feels that it is wrong to eat and violates his conscience, don't encourage him to eat.
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 12:38:26 AM »
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The speaker is very knowledgeable

He's actually making up the vast majority of what he says that isn't directly quoted from the Bible, and even then, he's distorting a lot of it.

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 12:53:36 AM »
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He's actually making up the vast majority of what he says that isn't directly quoted from the Bible, and even then, he's distorting a lot of it.

I'm not talking about the biblical parts, sorry for not being clear.  He does know a lot about occultism that meshes with what I know from other sources.  He does distort and stretch that knowledge, however.

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012, 02:23:07 AM »
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Pikachu's tail is an occult symbol. What, a lightning bolt?

*EDIT* Pokemon starts about 1:55:00 in the video for those not interested in watching 2 hours to get to the relevant part.

I also love how a former Satanist doesn't know the difference between a pentagram and a pentangle.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012, 09:14:01 AM »
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Great, does this mean that every post discussing various tournament styles of CCG's will be banned too?

Also, why no LotR ban?
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2012, 10:02:33 AM »
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The Pokemon debate goes back to 1999. I have not watched the video, but he sounds like an extemist (aka from Florida).

The original debate about Pokemon was with the cards, not the TV show or video game. The card game was started by Wizards of the Coast. They made the first few sets before Nintendo took the task on themselves (I believe with the e-Reader cards).

Churches were into boycotts back then (anyone else remember the Disney boycott?). Since Wizards of the Coast were well known for making Dungeons and Dragons, and eventually Magic the Gathering, boycotting Pokemon was a peripheral effect. Of course, there were some that felt WotC was trying to sneak their "evil" agenda into Pokemon (hence the extremists).
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2012, 10:45:32 AM »
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he sounds like an extemist (aka from Florida).
I found this really funny, considering where you live :)

As for deleting Pokemon posts, Schaef is entirely within the rules.  If they haven't been enforced in a while then it is a failing on the rest of our parts.

As for the reasons for the ban, I would assume that it is a combination of trying to avoid something that could be a stumbling block for some people, and also avoiding promotion of a competing product on the Redemption forum.

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2012, 10:48:36 AM »
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Also, why no LotR ban?

Probably because LotR was established by Tolkien, who was a Catholic.
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 10:56:02 AM »
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Also, why no LotR ban?
Probably because LotR was established by Tolkien, who was a Catholic.
LotR is also defunct, and therefore NOT a competing product anymore.

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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2012, 10:59:04 AM »
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LotR is also defunct, and therefore NOT a competing product anymore.

Ah so only products Redemption is not competing with can be mentioned.  Rob must be a Capitalist... 
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