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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Topic started by: CountFount on November 05, 2010, 10:39:20 AM
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I am having a problem logging in on Internet Explorer. My sign in works on my I-phone and other computers but not on my IE on my lap top. Any ideas?
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Semi-Related note that I'm too lazy to make another thread for: Cactus won't save my password correctly, it also says invalid. This is the only website that does this. I'm using Chrome. Wai?
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I am having a problem logging in on Internet Explorer. My sign in works on my I-phone and other computers but not on my IE on my lap top. Any ideas?
Try Mozilla Firefox for your laptop.
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I am having a problem logging in on Internet Explorer. My sign in works on my I-phone and other computers but not on my IE on my lap top. Any ideas?
What exactly do you mean by "having a problem"?
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I am having a problem logging in on Internet Explorer. My sign in works on my I-phone and other computers but not on my IE on my lap top. Any ideas?
What exactly do you mean by "having a problem"?
Yeah, i think they call that a feature in IE.
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...logging in on Internet Explorer...
I think I found your problem.
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Cue the Haterade.... ;)
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*cough cough*
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FireFox > Chrome
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FireFox > Chuck Norris Everything
Fix'd.
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FireFox > Chuck Norris Everything
Fix'd.
QFT.
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Quotes From Trolls ;)
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FireFox > Chrome
ummm.....no corrected
Firefox<Chrome
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FireFox > Chrome
ummm.....no corrected
Firefox<Chrome
ummm no FireFox>Chrome
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Firefox is what I'm using right now and my dad is computer programmer so he knows what's the best. IE is sooooooo slow and virussy.
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Firefox is what I'm using right now and my dad is computer programmer so he knows what's the best. IE is sooooooo slow and virussy.
you can't hack or nothing i got norton
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Saying your Windows is safe because you have Norton is like saying you're safe from a poison gas attack by putting a plastic bag over your head.
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And then strangling yourself with that plastic bag,
and then learning that there was no gas attack...
BUT YOU'RE DEAD!
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kaspersky.
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kaspersky.
Bless you.
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Saying your Windows is safe because you have Norton is like saying you're safe from a poison gas attack by putting a plastic bag over your head.
QFT
McAfee is almost as great as Norton... ::)
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Saying your Windows is safe because you have Norton is like saying you're safe from a poison gas attack by putting a plastic bag over your head.
This was hilarious. (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=12349.msg383795#msg383795) Thanks Schaef :)
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I have a mac. Viruses begone!
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I have a mac. Viruses All of the useful programs and fun games begone!
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I have a mac. Viruses All of the useful programs and fun games begone!
Garageband isn't useful?
Fun games take up too much space anyway, I'd rather just play random internet games or use my wii. Although, I downloaded Battle for Wesnoth and have been having fun with that.
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Thats why I have a 1 Tb hard drive in my desktop. I've got well over 50 games installed on here, and I'm not even a third of the way full.
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Battle for Wesnoth is a great game. There's no excuse for tiny hard drives.
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I have a mac. Viruses All of the useful programs and fun games begone!
Windows=Shelby Cobra with a woman at the wheel
http://www.youtube.com/v/qTEvJ2Tl8Ss?fs=1&hl=en_US (http://www.youtube.com/v/qTEvJ2Tl8Ss?fs=1&hl=en_US)
Mac=Citroën C without any driver at all
http://www.youtube.com/v/IL5c2DUnYno?fs=1&hl=en_US (http://www.youtube.com/v/IL5c2DUnYno?fs=1&hl=en_US)
**NOTE- second video was made on a mac using Shake and Final Cut Studio
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I have a mac. Viruses All of the useful programs and fun games begone!
Windows=Shelby Cobra with a woman at the wheel
http://www.youtube.com/v/qTEvJ2Tl8Ss?fs=1&hl=en_US (http://www.youtube.com/v/qTEvJ2Tl8Ss?fs=1&hl=en_US)
Mac=Citroën C without any driver at all
http://www.youtube.com/v/IL5c2DUnYno?fs=1&hl=en_US (http://www.youtube.com/v/IL5c2DUnYno?fs=1&hl=en_US)
**NOTE- second video was made on a mac using Shake and Final Cut Studio
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcanelafina.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F11%2Fwebcam.jpg&hash=2e883289645c1727ae766d70e92b8123251b9e53)
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Wow. That dell has a LOT of cords in the back of it...
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...And despite that, I'm willing to bet it's 5x more powerful than the mac.
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I have a mac. Viruses All of the useful programs and fun games begone!
Garageband isn't useful?
Fun games take up too much space anyway, I'd rather just play random internet games or use my wii. Although, I downloaded Battle for Wesnoth and have been having fun with that.
Mac Switch - Gaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B-ekl_cEWk#)
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The Steam platform works on Mac now..... FYI to you out of date, uninformed, adware over-run, malware ridden, virus buried windows users :P
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The 1 platform works on Mac now..... FYI to you NEVER VIRUSSY NEVER POPUPPY NORTON USING windows users! 8)
I made it better.
Also, another complaint for apple.
Itunes is a slug on my fast windows because apple collaborates against microsoft.
BLACK OPS IS OUT TODAY AND MICROSOFT STOCK IS GOING TO SKYROCKET SO HAHAHAHAHAHA APPLE!
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The Steam platform works on Mac now..... FYI to you out of date, uninformed, adware over-run, malware ridden, virus buried windows users :P
Yeah, that IS a step forward for macs but, theres still FAR more games on Steam for PC.
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The Steam platform works on Mac now..... FYI to you out of date, uninformed, adware over-run, malware ridden, virus buried windows users :P
Yeah, that IS a step forward for macs but, theres still FAR more games on Steam for PC.
Every game I personally ever liked, I got on mac when I made the switch, i'm happy
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Why the debate over gaming? Computers are far more useful for other things
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Why the debate over gaming? Computers are far more useful for other things
Usefulness is relative. ;)
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The funny thing to me is, I always hear mac peeps rave about their machine and how pc stinks. The funny part comes in when mac finally gets a program/utilities that pc had for years, they get excited and basically say "see, now I can do that so mac rules". To me, its like some one comes up to you and says that they just were able to make their dialup go twice as fast so they are the best choice :p.
Probably made no sence but o well.
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The funny thing to me is, I always hear mac peeps rave about their machine and how pc stinks. The funny part comes in when mac finally gets a program/utilities that pc had for years, they get excited and basically say "see, now I can do that so mac rules". To me, its like some one comes up to you and says that they just were able to make their dialup go twice as fast so they are the best choice :p.
Probably made no sence but o well.
well, the thing is, mac can beats PC in every way except the available additional software you can for it (mostly ONLY games and part of Microsoft office suite). so when mac catches up in that aspect, the argument for PC is lost.
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Not really, since Macs still come as complete, finished products and I have made it a point to keep and upgrade this computer in pieces for the last decade. Technically, it has none of the same parts now as then, but my choice of what to build and how to build it simply has no comparison in the Apple market, which makes its stand on proprietary hardware designed for minimal user "hassle" (read: option or requirement to customize to a large degree).
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upgrade-wise.... if you buy a higher end mac, you won't have to upgrade for at least 5 years. i have a 6 year old mac and a year old mac, the older one can handle everything my newer one can (including CS4 suite, games, video encoding, etc) except play blue-ray.
On a side note- if you were that capable, you'd be able to manage more upgrades than you might think with a mac. I own a newer macbook pro, and have managed to upgrade the battery, DVD-drive, and hard drive myself without problems. Haven't worried about anything else yet.
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On a side note- if you were that capable, you'd be able to manage more upgrades than you might think with a mac. I own a newer macbook pro, and have managed to upgrade the battery, DVD-drive, and hard drive myself without problems. Haven't worried about anything else yet.
How exactly is limited upgradeability on par with near total upgradeability?
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On a side note- if you were that capable, you'd be able to manage more upgrades than you might think with a mac. I own a newer macbook pro, and have managed to upgrade the battery, DVD-drive, and hard drive myself without problems. Haven't worried about anything else yet.
How exactly is limited upgradeability on par with near total upgradeability?
I didn't say it was. The main point was that you don't even have to with a mac.
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On a side note- if you were that capable, you'd be able to manage more upgrades than you might think with a mac. I own a newer macbook pro, and have managed to upgrade the battery, DVD-drive, and hard drive myself without problems. Haven't worried about anything else yet.
How exactly is limited upgradeability on par with near total upgradeability?
I didn't say it was. The main point was that you don't even have to with a mac....
.... but you can if you want to make it good at all.
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On a side note- if you were that capable, you'd be able to manage more upgrades than you might think with a mac. I own a newer macbook pro, and have managed to upgrade the battery, DVD-drive, and hard drive myself without problems. Haven't worried about anything else yet.
How exactly is limited upgradeability on par with near total upgradeability?
I didn't say it was. The main point was that you don't even have to with a mac....
.... but you can if you want to make it good at all.
umm, no
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upgrade-wise.... if you buy a higher end mac, you won't have to upgrade for at least 5 years.
That is a brilliant idea: spend $3,000 on a computer every five years so I don't have to pay $100-$150 for a new component every year.
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upgrade-wise.... if you buy a higher end mac, you won't have to upgrade for at least 5 years.
That is a brilliant idea: spend $3,000 on a computer every five years so I don't have to pay $100-$150 for a new component every year.
Yeah, you tell him how those expensive macs are a waste of money!!! You go Schaef!....
*hides my $3,000 Macbook Pro*
*whistles innocently.* :angel:
hey, my school required me to get a macbook pro...... stop looking at me that way...
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upgrade-wise.... if you buy a higher end mac, you won't have to upgrade for at least 5 years.
That is a brilliant idea: spend $3,000 on a computer every five years so I don't have to pay $100-$150 for a new component every year.
And then have your computer only last 3 years. Plus, there are so many things you have to purchase for software to give it what the Mac has.
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You guys are all fruitcakes. It's a computer, for cryin' out loud.
Bow before my mighty eMachines with a Celeron processor and integrated graphics. 512MB system RAM in your face!!
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Mac < PC with Windows7 8) + PC = less expensive
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Yes, Two PCS with windows 7 (assuming we are talking alienware) WOULD be more expensive than a mac.
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On a side note, I got a free iPod Touch with my Mac.
On another note, I went to Boston with the iPod. While there, it disappeared...
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Yes, Two PCS with windows 7 (assuming we are talking alienware) WOULD be more expensive than a mac.
it doesn't cost much to get windows7 with your PC
On a side note, I got a free iPod Touch with my Mac.
On another note, I went to Boston with the iPod. While there, it disappeared...
well it is Boston...of course i went down to Rochester, MN and lost my sleeping bag so....btw if anyone who went to MN State knows who might have that i still want it back
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MN State was in Austin. I'm pretty sure Scott didn't find anything at the end of it all...
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On another note, I went to Boston with the iPod. While there, it disappeared...
I have More Than a Feeling that you went to see a Rock and Roll Band somewhere near Cheers. While there, you met a girl named Amanda who asked to borrow your iPod. She told you it was Smokin' hot, but then she disappeared when a crowd surfer bumped into you (you didn't have your hands up).
I'm afraid those things happen to all of us, so if I can give you any Peace of Mind, I'd say Don't Look Back and just "keep moving forward" (Walt Disney's words, not mine). You also may want to stay clear of Boston.
I hear Cape Cod is nice.
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And then have your computer only last 3 years. Plus, there are so many things you have to purchase for software to give it what the Mac has.
I don't understand what you mean by having a computer last only three years. I have been buying nothing but replacement parts since 2000; my computer has lasted a decade and shows no signs of needing to be completely replaced any time soon.
And what things do you think I need to purchase software for, to get the functionality I want?
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And what things do you think I need to purchase software for, to get the functionality I want?
He probably is referring to video cards for game graphics, etc.; but video cards last a long time if all you care about is playing the game (and not necessarily having it on uber high graphics settings).
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Who needs video cards when you have integrated graphics...... up to 32MB of graphics.... completely integrated...
What now.
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Software is subjective to what you're using the computer for. Mac has it all together, and in the long run might be cheaper. All the add-ons add up. On a side note, mine is a lappy...if I had a desktop, I might go with Windows. But the last Dell Lappy I had was not nearly as good as this one.
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Software is subjective to what you're using the computer for. Mac has it all together, and in the long run might be cheaper. All the add-ons add up. On a side note, mine is a lappy...if I had a desktop, I might go with Windows. But the last Dell Lappy I had was not nearly as good as this one.
I <3 my Samsung laptop with Windows 7.
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I <3 my Mac. With Garageband.
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On another note, I went to Boston with the iPod. While there, it disappeared...
I have More Than a Feeling that you went to see a Rock and Roll Band somewhere near Cheers. While there, you met a girl named Amanda who asked to borrow your iPod. She told you it was Smokin' hot, but then she disappeared when a crowd surfer bumped into you (you didn't have your hands up).
I'm afraid those things happen to all of us, so if I can give you any Peace of Mind, I'd say Don't Look Back and just "keep moving forward" (Walt Disney's words, not mine). You also may want to stay clear of Boston.
Man, how long did it take for you to get all those puns Organ-ized? Maybe It's Easy for you to make puns, but you should probably Cool the Engines a bit. It takes me such a Long Time to do this. Tell Me, how do you do it? If you tell me that its something unique to you, thats okay... I'm Used to Bad News. Oh well, I guess i'll just Walk On now.
PS, I had a Good Time writing this.
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Software is subjective to what you're using the computer for. Mac has it all together, and in the long run might be cheaper. All the add-ons add up. On a side note, mine is a lappy...if I had a desktop, I might go with Windows. But the last Dell Lappy I had was not nearly as good as this one.
You still haven't explained to me what software I had to buy to make my $500 computer build plus $100-$150/yr in maintenance a more expensive purchase than a $3000 Mac (and I've tried to be fair and not list the top-shelf $5k versions).
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Software is subjective to what you're using the computer for. Mac has it all together, and in the long run might be cheaper. All the add-ons add up. On a side note, mine is a lappy...if I had a desktop, I might go with Windows. But the last Dell Lappy I had was not nearly as good as this one.
You still haven't explained to me what software I had to buy to make my $500 computer build plus $100-$150/yr in maintenance a more expensive purchase than a $3000 Mac (and I've tried to be fair and not list the top-shelf $5k versions).
I bought mine for $1000.
Example: Garageband comes on the mac. It's about $100-300 for a decent recording program.
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I spent $1700 one one of mine and $2400 on the other. I recently was offered $1000 for the first. After 5 years, that's $140 per year lost. I never had a problem with it, never bought extra software or anti-virus, and never had to upgrade anything to use photo/video/audio recording/editing software. After 4 years though, I complained that the battery wasn't lasting as long (about 20 minutes) and they next-day-shipped me a new battery.
That's not including the fact that I got a printer AND ipod with each one. I sold the ipod ($150) and printer ($100) for the first one. I'll let you do the math. But I'm pretty sure I did pretty well on my first mac, and I intend to on my second.
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I bought mine for $1000.
You need to make up your mind whether or not you mean "high-end" when you say "high-end". $1000 is clearly not a high-end price for a Mac by a long shot, and when I gave a $3000 (not even a $5000) price point earlier, you accepted that for the purposes of this discussion.
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I bought mine for $1000.
You need to make up your mind whether or not you mean "high-end" when you say "high-end". $1000 is clearly not a high-end price for a Mac by a long shot, and when I gave a $3000 (not even a $5000) price point earlier, you accepted that for the purposes of this discussion.
When did I say high-end? Plus, when I first "accepted" the $3000 ones, I wasn't arguing about price, I was arguing about quality.
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virus buried windows users :P
What are you talking about? Macs have viruses. Last time I used a mac it had this really bad virus that impeded all progress, it was called OS X.
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When did I say high-end? Plus, when I first "accepted" the $3000 ones, I wasn't arguing about price, I was arguing about quality.
In fairness, Jaeger was the one who originally made the argument to buying a high-end Mac. But if the argument is that you buy a high-end Mac to have something still relevant five years later, and that's the point from which I'm proceeding, I am forced to assume when you enter that same line of discussion that you are accepting the same premise that Jaeger and I were using. What I infer from that is a not-high-end Mac will not still be a powerhouse five years later, since that's what was required to push an upgrade back a minimum of five years.
I understand that not every Mac costs a small fortune; that's not a difficult concept to grasp. But likewise, not every $1000 Mac bought five years ago is going to run Batman: Arkham Asylum, either. I accepted his premise that you buy big to make it last longer between replacements, that only makes sense. What does not make sense is your claim that I have to replace my computer after three years (I haven't) or that I have to buy all kinds of software to get the functionality I want (I don't).
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Example: Garageband comes on the mac. It's about $100-300 for a decent recording program.
You're claiming Garageband is a decent recording program, your argument is invalid.
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When did I say high-end? Plus, when I first "accepted" the $3000 ones, I wasn't arguing about price, I was arguing about quality.
In fairness, Jaeger was the one who originally made the argument to buying a high-end Mac. But if the argument is that you buy a high-end Mac to have something still relevant five years later, and that's the point from which I'm proceeding, I am forced to assume when you enter that same line of discussion that you are accepting the same premise that Jaeger and I were using. What I infer from that is a not-high-end Mac will not still be a powerhouse five years later, since that's what was required to push an upgrade back a minimum of five years.
I understand that not every Mac costs a small fortune; that's not a difficult concept to grasp. But likewise, not every $1000 Mac bought five years ago is going to run Batman: Arkham Asylum, either. I accepted his premise that you buy big to make it last longer between replacements, that only makes sense. What does not make sense is your claim that I have to replace my computer after three years (I haven't) or that I have to buy all kinds of software to get the functionality I want (I don't).
Well, I think you assumed we were talking about the high end desktop, while we were actually referring to laptops. I consider the $2200 15" i7 macbook high end, without adding additional features. Generally though, I define high-end macbook as +$2000 (for reference).
At $2000 price point, it is not hard to use is 5 years without needing upgrades or having problems, and then sell it for over $1000. With a little time, you can likely still get $1200 for it if you really take care of it.
That comes to "costing you" $160 per year for 5 years (assuming you buy one, use it, and sell it).
Cost for 5 years: $800
With windows, assume you start at a $1000 price point. Over the course of 5 years, you upgrade it and buy antivirus at $150 per year. You also likely have to upgrade the OS once during those 5 years, which runs you at least $100. After 5 years, and a voided warranty from upgrading yourself, you'll likely get $500 for your laptop.
Cost for 5 years: $1350
I may have exaggerated a couple numbers, but AT LEAST macs are not unreasonably expensive as prejudice windows like to think.
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Now, wraith went with a $1000 macbook. Do you really think if you walk into a best buy or apple store and buy a $1000 mac or a $1000 HP (just example), that you will get as many years out of or have less problems with an HP? NO. A $1000 mac will last longer, re-sell for more, and cost less to upkeep that a $1000 mac.
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Now, if you are talking about a desktop, then I would say.....
Buy a mac if you are running a business and need a server or are doing hardcore audio/video/photo editing.
Buy a pc if you are doing anything else.
At this point I can break down the individual components of a mac, processor, MB, RAM, etc and explain it generally operates faster than a good PC. Or I can point out that windows are cheaper. I can easily make an argument for each.
If I had the big bucks, I would buy a mac pro. I like how it looks, I like the components, etc. Then i would tri-boot- linux, osx, 7.
If I didn't have the big bucks, i would buy a windows native machine, and dual boot it with mac, after upgrading several key components.
If you are about to buy a desktop, generally you can find just as good of deal in a mac as you can in a windows, and it goes both ways. You can also run either OS in either machine (although, OSX is harder to set up when it's not native).
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Finally, yes, there will always be a few exceptions out there like alienware, etc, that i will never make an argument about because they fall out of the realm of normal PCs, and i simply do not keep tabs on where their machines are technologically, or how well equipped they come
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For the record i have personally owned 3 HP desktops that i upgraded for years (lasting me 3, 5, and 7 years), built 2 entirely custom windows machines, where I ordered each part individually and put them together myself, and I have owned 2 mac book pros. While I may not have the experience in years around here, i definitely consider myself informed. I also worked at Best Buy (in computers) for a long time, and met some very intelligent individuals, some of which i actually got to know outside of the workplace (one hired me for some time working on computers).
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PS- if you try to argue that the windows OS is better than the mac OS..... that is an argument I can only make for one side, and I will simply crush windows..... I got very close with an older computer science professor last year, and .... yeah, Microsoft Windows < Mac OSX
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Buy a mac if you are running a business and need a server or are doing hardcore audio/video/photo editing.
Buy a pc if you are doing anything else.
Why would you ever run a mac server while the Great Penguin still exists?
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With windows, assume you start at a $1000 price point.
No. $500. I told you. We just helped RR build one and I believe he splurged on certain components to get up to $700.
Over the course of 5 years, you upgrade it and buy antivirus at $150 per year.
No. I pay nothing for antivirus or firewall. Avast + Comodo > pretty much every commercial product except Trend Micro.
You also likely have to upgrade the OS once during those 5 years, which runs you at least $100.
I have been using XP for as long as I can remember, and have no plans to upgrade any time soon.
Cost for 5 years: $1350
That is more than I have paid to keep my desktop in shape for the last TEN years.
And no, I got no impression that we were talking about laptops versus desktops when the discussion was "Mac" or "PC" with no distinction regarding the form factor.
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Apple wants to charge me an extra $400 for 4 GB of ram :c. I didn't know RAM was $100 per GB....
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With windows, assume you start at a $1000 price point.
No. $500. I told you. We just helped RR build one and I believe he splurged on certain components to get up to $700.
Over the course of 5 years, you upgrade it and buy antivirus at $150 per year.
No. I pay nothing for antivirus or firewall. Avast + Comodo > pretty much every commercial product except Trend Micro.
You also likely have to upgrade the OS once during those 5 years, which runs you at least $100.
I have been using XP for as long as I can remember, and have no plans to upgrade any time soon.
Cost for 5 years: $1350
That is more than I have paid to keep my desktop in shape for the last TEN years.
ummm..... I was basing that on that you kept your software up2date (OS), that you paid $1000 (which i see was wrong), and this....
You still haven't explained to me what software I had to buy to make my $500 computer build plus $100-$150/yr in maintenance a more expensive purchase than a $3000 Mac (and I've tried to be fair and not list the top-shelf $5k versions).
Ok, I missed the $500 price and now that I know you you run XP, I am curious of the specs of your system. I feel like I'm talking to someone with an outdated computer that is ignorant of recent technological advancements.... Please enlighten me
And no, I got no impression that we were talking about laptops versus desktops when the discussion was "Mac" or "PC" with no distinction regarding the form factor.
I assumed you were talking about desktops when you gave the $3000/$5000 price.... seeing as how with every single hardware upgrade possible a macbook pro can only cost $4500.
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Apple wants to charge me an extra $400 for 4 GB of ram :c. I didn't know RAM was $100 per GB....
Only if you want fruit scented RAM :)
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@The Schaef- post the system you built. and if it's a desktop or laptop
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Only if you want fruit scented RAM :)
Thats another thing! Macs are too hard to use. I spent an hour looking for the control key and didn't find it. Eventually I got hungry and pressed the apple key but it didn't give me an apple. So then I was controlless and appleless.
Worst of all, Norton couldn't get rid of the virus I mentioned earlier! I eventually fixed everything by buying a pc.
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Worst of all, Norton couldn't get rid of the virus I mentioned earlier! I eventually fixed everything by buying a pc.
Lol, that should be the solution to all support problems. Go buy a new machine :P
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ummm..... I was basing that on that you kept your software up2date (OS), that you paid $1000 (which i see was wrong), and this....
That question is the heart of what I'm trying to get at here. I am told I need to buy all this other software to get my PC to do what I want, and I am trying to figure out what that software is supposed to be. Other than you assuming I should always upgrade my OS, no one has even suggested to me what that is supposed to mean.
Ok, I missed the $500 price and now that I know you you run XP, I am curious of the specs of your system. I feel like I'm talking to someone with an outdated computer that is ignorant of recent technological advancements.... Please enlighten me
You assume because I passed on Vista and am in no hurry to upgrade to a required 64-bit OS, that I am ignorant of technological advancements? Can you explain why you came to that conclusion?
I assumed you were talking about desktops when you gave the $3000/$5000 price.... seeing as how with every single hardware upgrade possible a macbook pro can only cost $4500.
Yeah, and you can get Netbooks for $300. I never disputed that laptops have been cheaper than desktops in recent years. I am only trying to achieve a common frame of reference, since we seem to have migrated from Windows OS versus Mac OS, to PC hardware versus Apple hardware, versus some kind of a desktop and/or laptop of a PC variety to some kind of desktop and/or laptop of an Apple variety.
My current desktop, to answer your other question, is an AM3 motherboard with an Athlon II X4 640 CPU, 2GB of DDR3 RAM, a GeForce GT220 video card, and a 640GB SATA drive, I think from Western Digital, some OEM DVD-RW I picked up for 20 bucks, Win XP Pro SP3, and an old 17" CRT VGA monitor.
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Windows 7 was my idea.
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XP works fine. Vista, on the other hand...
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XP works fine. Vista, on the other hand...
There is no Vista, there is only 7.
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I don't have much experience with 7. I plan to, once I get around to getting it from my college's MSDN account.
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I don't have much experience with 7. I plan to, once I get around to getting it from my college's MSDN account.
7 is basically what Vista was supposed to be and should have been. It has the awesomeness without the problems.
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I'm well aware of that. I don't have any personal experience with 7 (can't afford, don't have time), but I've read plenty of reviews, etc. I did participate in the beta.
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I'm well aware of that. I don't have any personal experience with 7 (can't afford, don't have time), but I've read plenty of reviews, etc. I did participate in the beta.
Ah, sorry. My bad for misunderstanding.
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I hear that it's fairly nifty. Both my laptop/desktop are due for a reinstall, I'm thinking of going 7 on desktop and Ubuntu on lappy.
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I hear that it's fairly nifty. Both my laptop/desktop are due for a reinstall, I'm thinking of going 7 on desktop and Ubuntu on lappy.
I have 7 on both my desktop and laptop, and I love it, so I can highly recommend having it on at least one of your machines. :P
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I don't have much experience with 7. I plan to, once I get around to getting it from my college's MSDN account.
Highly recommended, I did that and dual boot it on my mac.
MSDN ftw
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Thanks. I'll let you know when I get to it.
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ummm..... I was basing that on that you kept your software up2date (OS), that you paid $1000 (which i see was wrong), and this....
That question is the heart of what I'm trying to get at here. I am told I need to buy all this other software to get my PC to do what I want, and I am trying to figure out what that software is supposed to be. Other than you assuming I should always upgrade my OS, no one has even suggested to me what that is supposed to mean.
Oh, i don't know. I didn't say you had to get other software.
Ok, I missed the $500 price and now that I know you you run XP, I am curious of the specs of your system. I feel like I'm talking to someone with an outdated computer that is ignorant of recent technological advancements.... Please enlighten me
You assume because I passed on Vista and am in no hurry to upgrade to a required 64-bit OS, that I am ignorant of technological advancements? Can you explain why you came to that conclusion?
Your right that could have been worded better. Either, A. if you have a 64-bit system, UPGRADE TO 7!!! huge benefits. B. if you don't have a 64-bit system.... clearly a downside to your 10 year upgrade plan ;)
"Every time I do the math, though, I come to the conclusion that the cost of Macs isn't out of whack with that of similar Windows machines. Apple isn't selling $750 notebooks for $1,500 -- its portables tend to use higher-end processors, mostly have aluminum cases rather than plastic ones, are typically thinner and lighter than garden-variety laptops and run longer on a battery charge than many of their Windows brethren. The Microsoft-powered laptops most directly comparable to Apple's MacBook Pro line, HP's Envy models, actually cost more than roughly equivalent Macs."
quote from foxnews.com
from a hardware standpoint-
mac and PCs tend to run about the same speed depending on the level you buy. with macs, you pay an extra $300 for sometimes higher end/longer lasting components.
from a software standpoint- macs haven't not been geared as much for games as windows, thus there are not as many. but if it's media editing, mac are superior. They have focussed on that part of their development.
from an OS standpoint- if you have taken courses or have a degree in OS management or software engineering, you would understand that what makes macs superior to windows is the operating system itself.
Windows Laptops: Pros-
full Microsoft office sweet available
more games available
more options available (3rd party software & hardware)
easier to find machines at a lower price point
etc
Mac Laptops: Pros-
MUCH MORE efficient operating system
has firewire 800 port (rarely found on windows)---- personally very important to me
much more professional and durable design (aluminum)
backlit keys (not common in windows machines
etc
I do a great amount with the Adobe Master Suites, and encode multiple HD videos at a time. I also am constantly transferring up to 500 gb per day to and from dual 2tb hardrives via FW800. Finally, when I'm on the go checking e-mail and browsing the web, I get over 9 hours out of my mac battery. For me, I have the money and make use of the features that make mac expensive.
Maybe, windows is better equipped for you, but not me.
if you wanted a $500 laptop that was a "better" deal than mac, buy a $500 toshiba laptop, wipe the hard drive, and install snow leopard for $20, then reinstall windows 7 with bootcamp. Then you have all the software benefits of having a mac, all the software benefits of windows, and at a PC price. The only thing missing is the awesome design of MacBooks.
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Since when is Fox News a reliable source for technology?
Apple wants to charge me an extra $400 for 4 GB of ram :c. I didn't know RAM was $100 per GB....
Newegg wants to charge me $58 for 4GB.
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And Hyvee charges me like $1.29 per pound of apples.
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Which makes you more of a fruitcake than the computer-basher-hatas.
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Oh, i don't know. I didn't say you had to get other software.
Well, wraith or somebody needs to explain this to me, because the software bundled into a Mac is supposed to be what makes the PC more expensive, but I don't know what I'm supposed to be buying to meet this criterion.
Your right that could have been worded better. Either, A. if you have a 64-bit system, UPGRADE TO 7!!! huge benefits. B. if you don't have a 64-bit system.... clearly a downside to your 10 year upgrade plan ;)
There are too many pieces of software/hardware that don't have 64-bit versions/drivers that are reliable. At my office, in fact, we are handcuffed to XP because the business management software we use tweaks out on 64-bit OS's. One day I'll jump to 7, or at least take advantage of the XP 64 copy I have laying about the house, but for right now I'm employing the following formula:
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I do a great amount with the Adobe Master Suites
Like this, for example. Since when is Adobe Master Suite packaged with a computer apart from some special bundle?
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A mac is a chick magnet. Ladies love apple.
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Ladies love apple.
Sadly, you're right. My roommate's lady friend that was over last night was fawning over my Affy Tapple.
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A mac is a chick magnet. Ladies love apple.
too true
There are too many pieces of software/hardware that don't have 64-bit versions/drivers that are reliable.
I do a great amount with the Adobe Master Suites
Like this, for example. Since when is Adobe Master Suite packaged with a computer apart from some special bundle?
true, when 64-bit XP first came out I remember getting a copy cheap from a friend that does testing for them.... they hadn't yet made a driver for internet use.... FAIL
side note- I never have this problem with mac software :P
Oh, I didn't get CS4 with my mac, had to get it separately. but it runs it like a champ
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A mac is a chick magnet. Ladies love apple.
too true
There are too many pieces of software/hardware that don't have 64-bit versions/drivers that are reliable.
I do a great amount with the Adobe Master Suites
Like this, for example. Since when is Adobe Master Suite packaged with a computer apart from some special bundle?
true, when 64-bit XP first came out I remember getting a copy cheap from a friend that does testing for them.... they hadn't yet made a driver for internet use.... FAIL
side note- I never have this problem with mac software :P
Oh, I didn't get CS4 with my mac, had to get it separately. but it runs it like a champ
CS4 runs like a champ on my XP desktop (Dell XPS 630i) as well as my Macbook Pro dual booted with XP.
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A mac is a chick magnet. Ladies love apple.
too true
There are too many pieces of software/hardware that don't have 64-bit versions/drivers that are reliable.
I do a great amount with the Adobe Master Suites
Like this, for example. Since when is Adobe Master Suite packaged with a computer apart from some special bundle?
true, when 64-bit XP first came out I remember getting a copy cheap from a friend that does testing for them.... they hadn't yet made a driver for internet use.... FAIL
side note- I never have this problem with mac software :P
Oh, I didn't get CS4 with my mac, had to get it separately. but it runs it like a champ
CS4 runs like a champ on my XP desktop (Dell XPS 630i) as well as my Macbook Pro dual booted with XP.
well, before my current macbook pro, i had a quad-core custom desktop running XP PRO-64 bit, and it took longer on that than on my mac. Example, on the quad, there was about a 3 second startup-loading screen.... no the mac, it's up in less than a second and doesn't display a loading screen.
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My MS-DOS loads very quickly. I can play advanced RPGs like the original Zork with no lag.
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Every time I opened CS3 on the Mac Pros at my last college, it took just as long for them to load up the program. I have yet to notice a significant performance difference on either platform. I prefer how it's laid out on windows however. I can't stand everything being in floaty windows (though I know they changed it so you can disable that in CS4 on macs).
And for the record, my two computers have the following:
-Dell XPS 630i -
2.4ghtz Core 2 Quad
Dual Nvidia 8800GT (512MB) cards in SLi
4GB RAM
1TB hard drive
19" 1440x900 Dell Monitor
XP Pro
-17" MacBook Pro-
3.08 Core 2 Duo
9600M GT (512mb)
4GB RAM
500GB hard drive
17" 1920x1200 monitor
Mac OS X and XP Pro
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Every time I opened CS3 on the Mac Pros at my last college, it took just as long for them to load up the program. I have yet to notice a significant performance difference on either platform. I prefer how it's laid out on windows however. I can't stand everything being in floaty windows (though I know they changed it so you can disable that in CS4 on macs).
And for the record, my two computers have the following:
-Dell XPS 630i -
2.4ghtz Core 2 Quad
Dual Nvidia 8800GT (512MB) cards in SLi
4GB RAM
1TB hard drive
19" 1440x900 Dell Monitor
XP Pro
-17" MacBook Pro-
3.08 Core 2 Duo
9600M GT (512mb)
4GB RAM
500GB hard drive
17" 1920x1200 monitor
Mac OS X and XP Pro
well, very often school computer are setup differently than personal computers, and are thus mildy slower. nice looking machines though!!! :thumbup:
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and nerfed all to crap to lock down what the users can do.
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Yay for command prompt workarounds!
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Example: Garageband comes on the mac. It's about $100-300 for a decent recording program.
You're claiming Garageband is a decent recording program, your argument is invalid.
It's decent. Not great, but decent. Nice to start off with, and nice for the simple things I do. Once I decide to go deeper into musical production, I'll get a better program.
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As a MAC user and a PC user I like them both.
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As a MAC user and a PC user I like them both.
yeah, there are pleasant advantage to both :)
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Example: Garageband comes on the mac. It's about $100-300 for a decent recording program.
You're claiming Garageband is a decent recording program, your argument is invalid.
It's decent. Not great, but decent. Nice to start off with, and nice for the simple things I do. Once I decide to go deeper into musical production, I'll get a better program.
No virtual tracks+no sequence cropping=not decent.
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Example: Garageband comes on the mac. It's about $100-300 for a decent recording program.
You're claiming Garageband is a decent recording program, your argument is invalid.
It's decent. Not great, but decent. Nice to start off with, and nice for the simple things I do. Once I decide to go deeper into musical production, I'll get a better program.
No virtual tracks+no sequence cropping=not decent.
From the little I know about virtual tracks, they really aren't necessary. I'm not sure what sequence cropping is...
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Decent =\= professional.
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I logic studio and final cut pro..... ::)