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Title: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Tracer Burnout on April 13, 2010, 02:05:15 PM
To all,

I want to thank the better part of this community for allowing me to grow spiritually through trial with this game.  I appreciate the wisdom that many of you have shown me about life in general and the fellowship with the majority of you has been exemplary.  However, despite this I am leaving the redemption community.  I have prayed, considered, yearned for understanding and this is the decision that the Lord has brought me to.  The majority of my decision was based on no one in particular, but an apparent lack of respect shown to a "Opponent" considering the rules of the game vs. fellowship and fun.  I understood this game to be more about fellowship and not so much about "winning" and have seen through experience (tournaments, online play, pick up games) this to be otherwise.  I'm dissapointed to share this with the majority of the community of Redemption that seem to have a grasp on the character/spirit of the game.  But my decision has come through prayer, supplication to the Lord, and a peace that I have with this decision.  Other factors have made an impact on my decision, such as the amount of time/money/devotion I place into collecting, playing and discussing the game in relation to priorities that are more important (biblicaly and personally).  I mean no disrespect to the game/players/creator/community, as I am confident that our Creator has people placed in unique situations to augment his plan through Redmeption and by no means do I mean to displace or interrupt them.  I ask forgiveness for any feelings that I may have hurt during my short tenure in this game and ask that you release to God any pain or bitterness you hold against me.  Thank you all for the good times, and may God Bless you as you continue to follow and walk in Him. 

Joshua Aydelotte
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: BubbleBoy on April 13, 2010, 02:14:20 PM
The majority of my decision was based on no one in particular, but an apparent lack of respect shown to a "Opponent" considering the rules of the game vs. fellowship and fun.  I understood this game to be more about fellowship and not so much about "winning" and have seen through experience (tournaments, online play, pick up games) this to be otherwise.
Ask not what your CCG can do for you... If you want fun and fellowship to be the spirit of the game, you have to contribute it. What it all boils down to is not what the rules of the game are, but how you play it. If you play it with an attitude directed towards fun and fellowship, then it doesn't matter whether the object of the game is to chase down your opponent, tackle him, and clonk him over the head.

But if God is calling you elsewhere, then you must follow. Just make sure it's God's voice and not you throwing your own in the direction you wish to go.

:)
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Red on April 13, 2010, 02:16:03 PM
On to wherever the Lord leads you follow my friend. God bless you Josh!


          Jay.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Korunks on April 13, 2010, 02:49:43 PM
I am sorry to see anyone leave this game, but I wish you well.  I will pray for God's best for you.  FWIW I encourage my players all the time to remember why we play, and I encourage them in their losses and wins to strive for sportsmanlike conduct.  If we do not play a Christian game like Christians, what is the point?  God Bless! :)

Shawn
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: crustpope on April 13, 2010, 02:57:33 PM
That is unfortunate.  I was hoping to play you sometime.  Go with God.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: D-man on April 13, 2010, 03:05:49 PM
Josh, I'm very sorry to hear that.  I really enjoyed the few games I played with you.  You're a great sport and a strong Christian, not to mention an excellent player.  I definitely agree that fellowship should be the focus of Redemption players.  While I sometimes struggle with being too competitive, in my online games I have made an effort to keep my focus on enjoying the time spent with fellow brothers in Christ.  Thank you for being one!

Godbless!  Always go where the Lord leads you.

D-man
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on April 13, 2010, 03:12:32 PM
Wooow. I am shocked that you are leaving the game. But anyways, I am happy that you came to a decision that you are happy with. I just hope that you are sure that this is the decision that you want. I am not saying this because you are an awesome contribution to the community. I just hope that God blesses you with your future endevours. Thanks for everything.  :)
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 13, 2010, 03:41:18 PM
the object of the game is to chase down your opponent, tackle him, and clonk him over the head.
this is what happens to me when I beat Wanderer...

Sorry to hear that, Josh. I enjoyed seeing you at the T2 tournament, although we never got to play. I'm sure you'll be missed on the boards and at tournaments.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: xCaLeBx on April 13, 2010, 04:32:07 PM
I'm sad to see you go man, but if you got to you got to, GL with life  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: YourMathTeacher on April 13, 2010, 05:00:02 PM
You need to come down to Florida to play. One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D

God speed on the path He leads you.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 13, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
You need to come down to Florida to play. One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D

God speed on the path He leads you.
haha, so that's why I always have so much fun at nationals...
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: EmJayBee83 on April 13, 2010, 05:37:55 PM
You need to come down to Florida to play. One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
True that.

My son and I still talk about the games of Family Business we played with Josh and Slug Fencer at Nats in Columbus.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 13, 2010, 05:41:42 PM
You need to come down to Florida to play. One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
True that.

My son and I still talk about the games of Family Business we played with Josh and Slug Fencer at Nats in Columbus.
I usually think of when I played Cutthroat Caverns with him...
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: EmJayBee83 on April 13, 2010, 06:23:35 PM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
My son and I still talk about the games of Family Business we played with Josh and Slug Fencer at Nats in Columbus.
I usually think of when I played Cutthroat Caverns with him...
That just goes to show a dose of Josh Kopp can make any game more fun.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 13, 2010, 06:29:16 PM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
My son and I still talk about the games of Family Business we played with Josh and Slug Fencer at Nats in Columbus.
I usually think of when I played Cutthroat Caverns with him...
That just goes to show a dose of Josh Kopp can make any game more fun.
WHAT? Cutthroat Caverns is better than Family Business. if you were trying to say that RR can make even that game more fun...I could see it going either way.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: EmJayBee83 on April 13, 2010, 07:22:30 PM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
My son and I still talk about the games of Family Business we played with Josh and Slug Fencer at Nats in Columbus.
I usually think of when I played Cutthroat Caverns with him...
That just goes to show a dose of Josh Kopp can make any game more fun.
WHAT? Cutthroat Caverns is better than Family Business. if you were trying to say that RR can make even that game more fun...I could see it going either way.
I am saying that you cannot name a game that would not be more fun with Josh Kopp participating than it would be without him.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Prof Underwood on April 13, 2010, 11:13:39 PM
I am saying that you cannot name a game that would not be more fun with Josh Kopp participating than it would be without him.
Josh is a great guy and my friend, but I beg to differ.  edited by R.O.S.E.S.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on April 13, 2010, 11:16:18 PM
Lol. Thanks for the fix mark. I didn't realize you were part of ROSES :)
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 13, 2010, 11:34:51 PM
I am saying that you cannot name a game that would not be more fun with Josh Kopp participating than it would be without him.
Josh is a great guy and my friend, but I beg to differ.  edited by R.O.S.E.S.
*sniffles* so mean. Sorry to see you go dude, you were fun to play against, even when ruling disputes happened.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: 12tipton3 on April 13, 2010, 11:44:48 PM
It is always sad to see a good player leave the game. i will be praying for you. always follow GOD.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 14, 2010, 12:04:25 AM
it's kinda confusing talking about two Josh's at one time.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 14, 2010, 01:00:57 AM
Welcome to every time I go to YMT's tournaments. His son is names Josh. Last time we had 3 different Joshes there.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: BubbleBoy on April 14, 2010, 07:48:15 AM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
[lamejoke]I would expect someone with initials JK to at least have a small sense of humor. ;)[/lamejoke]
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: EmJayBee83 on April 14, 2010, 08:03:29 AM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
[lamejoke]I would expect someone with initials JK to at least have a small sense of humor. ;)[/lamejoke]
Why the board didn't process your lamejoke tag? I try to use at least one lamejoke in most of my posts and the tags never show up like that for me.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: BubbleBoy on April 14, 2010, 08:05:59 AM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
[lamejoke]I would expect someone with initials JK to at least have a small sense of humor. ;)[/lamejoke]
Why the board didn't process your lamejoke tag? I try to use at least one lamejoke in most of my posts and the tags never show up like that for me.

Huh, that's strange...maybe I am incapable of making a statement worthy of lamejoke status...
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: EmJayBee83 on April 14, 2010, 08:11:45 AM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
[lamejoke]I would expect someone with initials JK to at least have a small sense of humor. ;)[/lamejoke]
Why the board didn't process your lamejoke tag? I try to use at least one lamejoke in most of my posts and the tags never show up like that for me.

Huh, that's strange...maybe I am incapable of making a statement worthy of lamejoke status...
They worked that time.   :D
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: BubbleBoy on April 14, 2010, 08:17:36 AM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
[lamejoke]I would expect someone with initials JK to at least have a small sense of humor. ;)[/lamejoke]
Why the board didn't process your lamejoke tag? I try to use at least one lamejoke in most of my posts and the tags never show up like that for me.

Huh, that's strange...maybe I am incapable of making a statement worthy of lamejoke status...
They worked that time.   :D
Yep, seems to be fully functional now. ::)
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 14, 2010, 10:47:08 AM
One tournament with Josh Kopp and you will find the fun & fellowship you were expecting.  ;D
[lamejoke]I would expect someone with initials JK to at least have a small sense of humor. ;)[/lamejoke]
Shall I also point out Joshing around means Joking around?  ;)
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Tracer Burnout on April 14, 2010, 10:52:34 AM
Just in case anyone is interested in this I'll be selling my  collection (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19752.0).  I have not posted a full list of stuff, but I have a complete set of TexP and an almost complete set (missing 1-3 cards) of Faith of our Fathers and Rock of Ages.   
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: metalpsalm on April 16, 2010, 07:45:51 AM
Well... it's always best to follow peace, and not burn bridges....
Bless you, bro!
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Sean on April 19, 2010, 10:50:36 PM
I'm surprised that the stated reason is lack of fellowship.  If it weren't for the fellowship, I'd have left this game 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: The Schaef on April 19, 2010, 10:52:49 PM
I am saying that you cannot name a game that would not be more fun with Josh Kopp participating than it would be without him.

Solitaire.  :p
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on April 19, 2010, 11:23:30 PM
Wow, Schaef is on a roll :)
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Crashfach2002 on April 19, 2010, 11:29:35 PM
Hey Joshua, sorry to hear you are leaving, I enjoyed playing our games!
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 19, 2010, 11:45:38 PM
I am saying that you cannot name a game that would not be more fun with Josh Kopp participating than it would be without him.

Solitaire.  :p
You've never seen me play solitaire with someone have you? ;)
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on April 20, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
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but an apparent lack of respect shown to a "Opponent" considering the rules of the game vs. fellowship and fun.
So you are quitting the game because of one opponent, yet look at everyone who is on here showing you support...
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Tracer Burnout on April 20, 2010, 07:20:13 AM
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but an apparent lack of respect shown to a "Opponent" considering the rules of the game vs. fellowship and fun.
So you are quitting the game because of one opponent, yet look at everyone who is on here showing you support...
No, not just one opponent.  If you look at my original post, you'll see that I state the majority of people understand the character of the game.  Opponent refers to having only one opponent you are playing against, like T1-2P.  Thats all. 
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: zmc 9 on April 20, 2010, 10:15:29 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: zmc 9 on April 20, 2010, 10:20:58 AM
I hate too see people leave redemption but if Gods calling you go
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on April 20, 2010, 06:46:39 PM
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So you are quitting the game because of one opponent,


Quote
No, not just one opponent.  If you look at my original post, you'll see that I state the majority of people understand the character of the game.  Opponent refers to having only one opponent you are playing against, like T1-2P.  Thats all.
Sorry but this seems to contradict itself.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Tracer Burnout on April 20, 2010, 06:56:39 PM
Sorry but this seems to contradict itself.

Don't worry.  You don't have to understand it. 
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 20, 2010, 07:44:31 PM
if I understand it right, he's referring to 2 player games.
which is why I mainly play Booster and T2 multi.
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Shofarblower on April 20, 2010, 07:53:49 PM
Josh,

  I am on the edge of devastation upon seeing you retire from a short, yet notable career in the world of Redemption. I know you helped me get my bearings on many rule changes and strategies in the game. You are by far my favorite opponent (sorry to all others). I enjoyed our in-game conversation immensely. I hope that we will not lose touch as I feel that our games were really going on in the midst of our discussions. I will PM you with my e-mail address and hope that we will talk from time to time. I pray blessings on you and your Beautiful Family.

Num 6:24-26  Adonai bless you and keep you; Adonai cause His face to shine on you, and be gracious to you; Adonai lift up His face to you, and give you shalom (Peace).

Kevin Hedrick
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Captain Falcon on April 20, 2010, 08:00:03 PM
Man, I really enjoyed seeing you at the Type 2 tourney and was hoping to see you at nats.  But by all means go where God is calling you  :thumbup:  God bless you Josh.  :)

Martin
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on April 20, 2010, 08:22:47 PM
You'll be missed :c. The only game I've ever played with you was one of the best I've ever played :).
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Red on April 20, 2010, 08:33:20 PM
 +1 you are my freind and a Veryyyy nice guy! Go where the LORD leads Josh!
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 20, 2010, 09:05:16 PM
You'll be missed :c. The only game I've ever played with you was one of the best I've ever played :).
the push-up contest?

(jk, the T2 multi, I know...)
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Tracer Burnout on May 07, 2010, 03:24:09 PM
So here we go everyone.  I have now sold all my cards and will be deleting my account after this post.  Thanks to all for helping me share some fun times.  May you all stay strong in the Lord and depend on him for all.... 
Title: Re: Leaving Redemption
Post by: Red on May 07, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
So here we go everyone.  I have now sold all my cards and will be deleting my account after this post.  Thanks to all for helping me share some fun times.  May you all stay strong in the Lord and depend on him for all.... 
You will probly never read this but you have helped me grow in christ and you  were a great friend tracer. goodbye.
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