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Hello everyone! It has been a good 7 years sense I was an active Redemption player and message board user. I have seen a ton of familiar names just from the topics on the board. Lots of great memories playing Redemption. So how is the game these days. The last expansion I remember is the Angel Wars.

Wow! Like what?

The short version is, Priests changed a lot of fundamental strategies for the game, and the expansions since then have changed a lot of fundamental strategies for Priests.  So there's been at least two generations of development since Angel Wars.

The short version is, Priests changed a lot of fundamental strategies for the game, and the expansions since then have changed a lot of fundamental strategies for Priests.  So there's been at least two generations of development since Angel Wars.

The long version:

Priests began the vast change, with the introduction of themes sorted by brigades, as well as many protect abilities. It really didn't change anything too much, but it was the beginning.

Faith of our Fathers made you play a theme deck if you wanted to win. Zerubabel's Temple reigned supreme with protection from everything. Autoblock became popular on defense, using characters like Uzzah and Trembling Demon (with Holy of Holies) to protect lost souls from rescue before the hero could do anything. There were also strategy decks, such as the hand discard deck that won nationals. Deck discard had been tried a number of times, but failed mostly.

Rock of Ages solidified theme/strategy decks. Pre-block ignore ran rampant with The Garden Tomb, and there was nothing you could do about it.

TexP didn't change much, but Territory Class allowed you to do sneaky things to your opponent. Image of Jealousy and Destructive Sin attempted to stop TGT, but it didn't really work...

Disciples killed preblock ignore. Instead abilities came to the forefront, with Herod's Temple frustrating many players. Disciples are currently the popular meta, using speed and Thaddeus' protection.

Okay, so that was semi-long.

I'd get a few TxP and Di packs, then take a look at where you want to go with that.

Any of your current decks probably won't win a tournament.

Maybe a local... We had someone come to one of our tournaments last year with a fight-by-the-numbers deck that hadn't been touched since before Kings, and he won type 1 2-player! It was pretty funny.

The new set would also be easier to formulate new decks on, too, as each tin will have a nice theme set to work from (for offense and defense).

Thad is the enemy of the free world

Que is totally awesome in today's meta because he look like Jar Jar Binks

Que is totally awesome in today's meta because he look like Jar Jar Binks

How is anything related to Jar Jar "totally awesome"?

Quote from: SomeKittens on June 07, 2011, 09:47:34 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on June 07, 2011, 07:16:23 PM

Que is totally awesome in today's meta because he look like Jar Jar Binks

How is anything related to Jar Jar "totally awesome"?

Star Wars is hurt.

Yeah, well George "Franchisicide" Lucas can stop cranking out crummy movies.  Then I might reconsider.

episode 3 was good...

Episode 3 was an okay movie, but not worthy of the name of Star Wars.

If you have no cards, then how are you going to have a deck together in time?  Wouldn't it take time to get a deck bought, mailed, and assembled?

To answer your question...
Set Aside Drawing and pre-block ignore are main offensive strategies.  This can be accomplished through...
     The "new" brigade: Teal   Feasts and their auto wins.
                                  White   The Garden Tomb girls with their powerful enhancements
                                  Purple   The new Disciples and their fishing boat
Clearly, these are quick summaries, but if you look in deck concepts and completed decks sections of the boards, then you will find examples of what I am talking about.

Auto block and EC recursion are typical defensive strategies:
   Auto-blocks include Uzzah & Trembling Demon (from the "new" orange brigade)
   Philistines are still dominant with Philistine Outpost; though Nazareth slows them down.
   Pharisees are gaining popularity with their drawing and play first.
   Herods have seen some success with their blocking and capturing.
  Again, check the deck concepts area to get a more in depth look at the strategies.

If that is the case, then "Tins" are your best bet.  There are certain Tins that are better than others if you have a choice.

Oh yeah, I used to love ordering from 3LG back when I used to play. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 being clobbered 10 hold my own, how would I do if I managed to buy some boosters, grab an NJ, and some other staples. I know its a hard call, I am more worried about the new theme decks then anything, considering i know nothing about them in an actual game.

I suggest you buying a G/H starter deck and Tin XIX. You'll spend 25 dollars and get a decent deck out of it. From there, I recommend Disciples.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on June 08, 2011, 12:26:37 PM

I suggest you buying a G/H starter deck and Tin XIX. You'll spend 25 dollars and get a decent deck out of it. From there, I recommend Disciples.

That sounds like good advice. Let's change the price tag, though. If you decide you want to do that, you can order the starter deck and tin at Three Lions Gaming, and I'll include 2 Disciples packs to help you out with your deck! Just leave a note with your order so that I remember to include them for you.

Not that this involves me (and assuming Tin 19 is TGT), then you should exchange one Disciples for TeP so he has a CHANCE at getting Susanna.  Then again, it doesn't involve me.   

The above two posts are good advice for a decent tourney deck.

I'm running low on Thesaurus packs right now, so I'll just add Susanna in by herself. Yes, tin 19 is TGT.

Ken, you are a generous guy.  Bluefrog, I think this is a very worthy deal to get you up and running for a decent showing at the upcoming tournament.  A very workable, competitive deck for $25 (not counting the Doms) is hard to be beat by anyone.  (Also, the Tins include Packs if you like to open those as well).

You guys rock! Thanks so much for the advice, I cannot wait to play again. And, thanks a ton Ken, you have definitely regained me as a customer for all my Redemption needs . Does Mike still play in the Texas group(cant remember his last name)? I remember way back when, I think maybe 03 south central regional he let me stay at his house because it was an overnighter and I was just a young tike with no license or car. I remember Marcus, Terry, and Ben though, those guys rock.

edit: just submitted my order on 3LG, so pumped

Let us know how you do!

Really?  PM me the names of anyone you know who goes to Roberts and would be interested in Redemption.  We've got an active playgroup, and ended last semester with 14+ members!