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Title: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: crustpope on May 19, 2009, 07:47:56 PM
1. If you delete or "quarrantine" a topic.  Please tell the person who started the topic.  It causes unnessesary confusion when something simply dissapears.  I am not saying that you are not right in what you do.  I am just saying you are wrong in how you do it.  Reasons explaing why you are taking "such and such" actions will go a long way to quieting those who view such action as heavy handed.

If this thread gets deleted and I dont get a response, I will be upset.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Rrulez on May 19, 2009, 09:05:46 PM
BANNED!
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: soul seeker on May 19, 2009, 11:44:15 PM
1. If you delete blah, blah....
I will add to the list because you can't have a #1 without a #2
2.  I would like to know what moderators do what actions.  Not because I need to know or that I think everyone blames Schaef when he can not possible moderate everything.  I just want to know because I'm curious and would like to create a spreadsheet on your actions.   :)

3.  Please delete this thread because it offends me.  :laugh:  I especially don't want you to tell CP but you should PM me so I can debate whether I should tell him.  Why? Besides the offense, I am either a terrible friend or have a very sick sense of humor.  It really depends on who you ask.

4.  Please delete a lot of other threads and tell no one: in fact, blame it on a "purge" if people get too suspicious.  I like to watch people squirm and complain about the unfair system and begin making comparisons to the "glory days" of the EZ board which at one point nobody liked.  I find those kind of thought patterns kind of contradictory in nature, whereas the real fact is that people are rebellious in nature and look every where for "the man" so they don't have to follow any kind of authority while thinking the past was somehow better.

5.  Please delete this post.  I'm in a good mood tonight and thought I would let my sick humor run rampant (you guys and gals just may catch it too.)  I am pretty difficult to offend and like to joke around a lot; for some reason I thought this would be funny. 
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: uthminister [BR] on May 20, 2009, 12:05:46 AM
Please delete Soul Seeker's account and PM Crustpope as to why you did it...
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: soul seeker on May 20, 2009, 12:09:30 AM
Please delete Soul Seeker's account and PM Crustpope as to why you did it...
:rollin:

Oh that is good....well I see that bet and raise you...

6.  Please make me a moderator so I can follow the rules that I have previously set and to personally follow Travis around on the Redemption boards to harass him in revenge deletions for such an attack as documented above.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: lightningninja on May 20, 2009, 12:15:40 AM
7. I've never been warned... I kind of feel left out.  ::) Can I get warned?  ;D
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Bryon on May 20, 2009, 12:24:18 AM
7. I've never been warned... I kind of feel left out.  ::) Can I get warned?  ;D
YOU?!!  Warned??  No way, buddy!  You go straight to MODERATED!
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: lightningninja on May 20, 2009, 12:27:15 AM
Woo-Hoo! MODERATION! MODERATION! MODERATION! Now you guys get to read all that I say! You should feel very special.  ::)
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: soul seeker on May 20, 2009, 12:31:51 AM
Woo-Hoo! MODERATION! MODERATION! MODERATION! Now you guys get to read all that I say! You should feel very special.  ::)
You know the more I think about it...the more moderation could be more punishment for the moderators.  You would just provide walls and walls of text....and they must read it to make sure you're on the up and up.  The moderators would just provide a "in summation", delete it all regardless offensive or not, or allow it all without the cumbersome task of reading it.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Bryon on May 20, 2009, 01:10:41 AM
Now you guys get to read all that I say!
I already do.  Especially lately, when some of what you say gets unsaid.  (go ROSES!)  :)
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: crustpope on May 20, 2009, 09:16:14 AM
I dont mind the Roses part ( I have never been edided by Roses because I dont know anything important but I digress) 

I just mind it when I create a thread for other people to have a discussion and it gets nuked before it gets off the ground.  Then I get blamed for posting a link redirecting a duscussion to the proper place, only to have that link go dead because the thread I created is quarrantined.

I dont like threads being deleted with no reason being given. How is anyone going to learn what to avoid, or why to avoid it if there is n o communication being given?  It seems very heavy handed as if some people are running this board like their own personal feifdom.

Also I reject the argument that we can not have a civilized discussion about controversial topics.  I didnt really care about participating in the discussion I created, I just wanted to redierect some people to that board to get them off of another.  Now I feel like I have been punished for no reason with no communication with nothing for me left to do but wonder and speculate.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on May 20, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
I just mind it when I create a thread for other people to have a discussion and it gets nuked before it gets off the ground.  Then I get blamed for posting a link redirecting a duscussion to the proper place, only to have that link go dead because the thread I created is quarrantined.

Is this about the evolution vs christianity thread? Because that is still alive and well....

*EDIT* Apparently it is about that:

Someone nuked the topic before it got off of the ground.  that was not my fault.  either way, stop discussing it here.

What happened is, you posted it in Open Discussion, not Off Topic. Open Discussion has an age requirement to even see that the board exists. Two people posted that they couldnt see it, then you assumed it got nuked. Lol.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: NWJosh on May 20, 2009, 10:16:07 AM
You want to know what really stinks is even though I am 28 years old, and a pastor I can't see all the different areas of the boards.  Ben (DaClock) told me of some discussions going on here, probably in the open discussion area, but I can't see any of those discussions for some reason. I don't even see the link to open discussions.  So I guess what I'm saying is if a moderator can fix that for me I would be very thankful. :) ;D
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: The Schaef on May 20, 2009, 10:18:09 AM
If it makes you feel any better, Matt, I don't even know what you're talking about, so at least you know it's not personal  ;D
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: uthminister [BR] on May 20, 2009, 10:18:31 AM
Click on Off-Topic and it should be the first link you see...
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: NWJosh on May 20, 2009, 10:19:50 AM
It should, but as I stated all I get is the "Children's topics"  And as my signature staits I don't want to grow up but really I don't have much of a choice in that matter.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: MichaelHue on May 20, 2009, 10:55:22 AM
I can has Open Discussions plz? :)

**edit** Woah, immediately after posting this I saw it for the first time.  That was really quick **edit**
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on May 20, 2009, 11:05:44 AM
wait, so did Schaef just open up Open Discussion for all those who couldnt see it before? I thought it was given the age restriction for a reason...
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Prof Underwood on May 20, 2009, 11:07:12 AM
In the parts of the board that I moderate, I don't remember ever deleting a thread completely due to inappropriateness.  However, I do delete posts, and sometimes edit them.  If I edit them, I try to put the box thing that shows that I did it.

I also do a good bit of deleting just based on uselessness.  For example in the ROOT thread, I periodically delete all posts that are more than a month old and don't seem to add anything that people would want to know (ie. posts that just report a score or a challenge).  I also periodically delete threads from that part of the board that are old and unnecessary (ie. about a tournament that is long over).  This is just trying to do my part to keep the boards from having future purges.  I wish all mods did this as well so that we won't have that problem in the future.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: The Schaef on May 20, 2009, 11:10:14 AM
wait, so did Schaef just open up Open Discussion for all those who couldnt see it before? I thought it was given the age restriction for a reason...

um, lambo, you're 19...
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on May 20, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
Yes I know.

From M Hue's post it sounded like something changed.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: MichaelHue on May 20, 2009, 11:32:58 AM
Yes I know.

From M Hue's post it sounded like something changed.
Idk, maybe I just totally missed it before now, but I just saw it for the first time.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Korunks on May 20, 2009, 11:35:10 AM
Well its not there for me, could some one open it up for me?  I am certainly old enough!
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on May 20, 2009, 12:55:59 PM
Well its not there for me, could some one open it up for me?  I am certainly old enough!

Add your age to your profile and it should open up.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: STAMP on May 20, 2009, 01:34:45 PM
Arr, moderators should stick to the code.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Korunks on May 20, 2009, 02:27:24 PM
Hrmm added my birth date and still not there, is it Mod locked?
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on May 20, 2009, 02:34:01 PM
so you cant see this? http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?board=35.0 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?board=35.0)
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Korunks on May 20, 2009, 03:32:08 PM
lol nope!  I gets a message 8) that says:

The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.
  :rollin:
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: crustpope on May 20, 2009, 03:36:15 PM
I just mind it when I create a thread for other people to have a discussion and it gets nuked before it gets off the ground.  Then I get blamed for posting a link redirecting a duscussion to the proper place, only to have that link go dead because the thread I created is quarrantined.

Is this about the evolution vs christianity thread? Because that is still alive and well....

*EDIT* Apparently it is about that:

Someone nuked the topic before it got off of the ground.  that was not my fault.  either way, stop discussing it here.

What happened is, you posted it in Open Discussion, not Off Topic. Open Discussion has an age requirement to even see that the board exists. Two people posted that they couldnt see it, then you assumed it got nuked. Lol.

That is what it is about and evidently I posted it there and now I cannot get back into them.  So evidently I was old enough to post it there but not old enough to now see it?

I thought I posted it in off topic, but that is weird if it is still there in open discussion because now I cannot see any forum entitled "open discussion".

I think there is a glitch in the matrix.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Rrulez on May 20, 2009, 03:41:58 PM
I just mind it when I create a thread for other people to have a discussion and it gets nuked before it gets off the ground.  Then I get blamed for posting a link redirecting a duscussion to the proper place, only to have that link go dead because the thread I created is quarrantined.

Is this about the evolution vs christianity thread? Because that is still alive and well....

*EDIT* Apparently it is about that:

Someone nuked the topic before it got off of the ground.  that was not my fault.  either way, stop discussing it here.

What happened is, you posted it in Open Discussion, not Off Topic. Open Discussion has an age requirement to even see that the board exists. Two people posted that they couldnt see it, then you assumed it got nuked. Lol.

That is what it is about and evidently I posted it there and now I cannot get back into them.  So evidently I was old enough to post it there but not old enough to now see it?

I thought I posted it in off topic, but that is weird if it is still there in open discussion because now I cannot see any forum entitled "open discussion".

I think there is a glitch in the matrix.
You did post it in Off-Topic. But Schaef or some other mod moved it to Open Discussion. Why can't the younger of the boards see it? Does it have adult content?
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: Korunks on May 20, 2009, 03:45:44 PM
I think there is more going on here than age related filtering, unless those of us over 26 are considered children.  I agree with crustpope, there is a glitch in the matrix.  I knew I shouldn't have taken the blue and the red pill together.  All I heard was blah blah, and my brain was like ooh skittles  ::) and I gobbled both, bad idea?
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: crustpope on May 20, 2009, 03:46:43 PM
lol I added my birthday but I still cant see it.  It must be for those people older than 33 lol


btw, Schaef, it seems you or someone did this unintentionally so since the thread was not nuked, only moved to a section of the board I cannot see (but you had no idea I could not see) I am sorry for anything I said that may have seemed harsh.


Now if only I could see that part of the board....hmmm
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: The Schaef on May 20, 2009, 04:17:32 PM
Access to OD is not automatic, I must add permissions manually.  If a person's age is not published in their profile, unless I know them personally, I cannot verify their age to add them.  Even the persons I do know are sometimes going to fall through the cracks, because there are over 800 members on the board, and only about 25% of them have published ages.  For children, I respect any desire to retain that information as private, but the age restriction to OD means that children young enough to want to hide their age won't be getting access anyway.

The age restriction is because many controversial topics are discussed, and it was the desire of the management that we allow these discussions to go on, without also thwarting the desire of parents to have a safe place for their children to go.  Rob set the age of ascension for the board, and that is the main criterion I use.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: EmJayBee83 on May 20, 2009, 05:47:24 PM
I never had access to OD until today.  Heh. 
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: crustpope on May 20, 2009, 07:18:40 PM
I guess we are done here.  Thanks for playing everyone.
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: lightningninja on May 20, 2009, 07:19:24 PM
In before the lock!
Title: Re: Helpful guidelines for Moderators.
Post by: crustpope on May 20, 2009, 07:19:40 PM
Please delete Soul Seeker's account and PM Crustpope as to why you did it...

BTW I like this idea  ;)
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