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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Topic started by: LordZardeck on December 14, 2010, 11:23:17 PM
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Hey, I wrote this story, and a couple of friends said I should share it. Please let me know what you think: http://lordzardeck.deviantart.com/#/d2zn1e3 (http://lordzardeck.deviantart.com/#/d2zn1e3)
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Not going to read it because of the title.
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Pol's right that the title does sound a bit like a romance novel, but I decided to brave it anyway :)
It's well written, and conveys a lot of emotions. I'm not sure about the theology behind it considering what Jesus had to say about there not being marriage in Heaven, but as a fictional story, it resonates.
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It's well written, and conveys a lot of emotions. I'm not sure about the theology behind it considering what Jesus had to say about there not being marriage in Heaven, but as a fictional story, it resonates.
I don't think I've ever heard anything about there being or not being marriage in Heaven. Is there some verses you could share? I'd really like to learn more about that.
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Pol's right that the title does sound a bit like a romance novel, but I decided to brave it anyway :)
It's well written, and conveys a lot of emotions. I'm not sure about the theology behind it considering what Jesus had to say about there not being marriage in Heaven, but as a fictional story, it resonates.
That verse is quite taken out of context, is it not?
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Not going to read it because of the title.
Going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing it's NOT because of the "Short" part. :D
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I don't think I've ever heard anything about there being or not being marriage in Heaven. Is there some verses you could share? I'd really like to learn more about that.
The passage I'm referring to is Matthew 22:23-30. (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:23-30&version=NIV) The basic idea is that people asked Jesus who would be married in Heaven to someone who had multiple husbands on Earth. Jesus answer was that there isn't really marriage in Heaven so the question was moot. As a married person, this is a somewhat difficult passage for me, but I suspect that it is something like this:
When I was in kindergarten, I had a little "girlfriend" who was my first kiss.
When I was in high school, I had a real girlfriend, and despite never kissing her, I realized that the simple kindergarten relationship was a mere shadow of what I had then.
When I was in college, I had a girlfriend, who I actually loved, and I realized that the former relationships I had were a mere shadow of what I had then.
After I graduated from college, I got married, and after being married for 12 years, I realize that even that college relationship was a mere shadow of what I have now.
I assume that when I go to Heaven, and become the bride of Christ, that somehow even my marriage here on Earth will pale in comparison to the reality of that relationship.
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I don't think I've ever heard anything about there being or not being marriage in Heaven. Is there some verses you could share? I'd really like to learn more about that.
The passage I'm referring to is Matthew 22:23-30. (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:23-30&version=NIV) The basic idea is that people asked Jesus who would be married in Heaven to someone who had multiple husbands on Earth. Jesus answer was that there isn't really marriage in Heaven so the question was moot. As a married person, this is a somewhat difficult passage for me, but I suspect that it is something like this:
When I was in kindergarten, I had a little "girlfriend" who was my first kiss.
When I was in high school, I had a real girlfriend, and despite never kissing her, I realized that the simple kindergarten relationship was a mere shadow of what I had then.
When I was in college, I had a girlfriend, who I actually loved, and I realized that the former relationships I had were a mere shadow of what I had then.
After I graduated from college, I got married, and after being married for 12 years, I realize that even that college relationship was a mere shadow of what I have now.
I assume that when I go to Heaven, and become the bride of Christ, that somehow even my marriage here on Earth will pale in comparison to the reality of that relationship.
There is no mention of heaven in that passage. Jesus was referring to the resurrection day, not the time we will spend on earth under his rule. God designed marriage as perfect and placed it in the Garden of Eden. "Heaven" is simply a restoration of Eden.
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The passage I'm referring to is Matthew 22:23-30. (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:23-30&version=NIV)
There is no mention of heaven in that passage.
That passage has traditionally been understood to be referring to there NOT being marriage in Heaven. Examples of this understanding can be found here, (http://www.gotquestions.org/marriage-heaven.html)here, (http://www.getchristiananswers.com/articles/there-marriage-heaven)and here. (http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/marriageinheaven.html) If you believe something contrary to the traditional view, the burden of proof lies with you.
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Jesus made it clear that angels do not marry and have children.5 He also indicated that we will be like the angels in that regard.5 God has allowed the human race to increase dramatically in numbers, so that there will be billions of God's people in heaven. There can be no further reproduction in heaven, because it would violate God's principle of free will and voluntary choice. All humans are required to choose to accept God or reject Him. If children were born in heaven, they would have no ability to choose to accept or reject God.
This is completely ignoring the fact that Adam and Eve were going to have children in the Garden of Eden.
Besides receiving a new body, those who enter heaven will be given a new name9 and will be incapable of committing sin.10 Therefore, all the problems we have by being mean to each other will be gone. We will be able to enjoy each other's company without the fear of being hurt by anyone.
This is illogical. There are no scriptures that support us becoming incapable of sinning, aka robots for God. There can be no good without evil, even if it only exists in theory. The wonderful thing that God created us for was to love him. Love can only be understood with the existance of hate.
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There are no scriptures that support us becoming incapable of sinning...Love can only be understood with the existance of hate.
Again, you are making some pretty strong statements that are clearly in opposition to what has been traditionally believed by Christians around the world for centuries. If you really think that people will still be sinning or hating or getting married and having kids AFTER they are in Heaven, then you need to have some pretty serious stuff to back that up. Otherwise, your personal opinion is just not going to carry much weight.
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There are no scriptures that support us becoming incapable of sinning...Love can only be understood with the existance of hate.
Again, you are making some pretty strong statements that are clearly in opposition to what has been traditionally believed by Christians around the world for centuries. If you really think that people will still be sinning or hating or getting married and having kids AFTER they are in Heaven, then you need to have some pretty serious stuff to back that up. Otherwise, your personal opinion is just not going to carry much weight.
I don't think anyone will be sinning or hating on the new earth.