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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Topic started by: BubbleBoy on April 30, 2010, 02:24:22 PM
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...We hates it. What is it about football that Americans like so much? Are we attracted to senseless violence and watching people run and throw stuff? I'm so sick of hearing people talk about stinkin' football...:P
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...We hates it. What is it about football that Americans like so much? Are we attracted to senseless violence and watching people run and throw stuff? I'm so sick of hearing people talk about stinkin' football...:P
People like football because
1. amazing talent
2. something to pass time(entertaining)
3. a time to group up with friends
4. other reasons from different people
I'm not obsessed with sports,I enjoy watching all of the young talented players.
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People like football because
1. amazing talent
2. something to pass time(entertaining)
3. a time to group up with friends
4. other opinions from different people
This is basically what any other event can offer (Redemption for example), except this one is exceptionally violent.
And BTW, when you say "amazing talent," you mean really good at...
senseless violence and ... run[ning] and throw[ing] stuff
::)
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People like football because
1. amazing talent
2. something to pass time(entertaining)
3. a time to group up with friends
4. other opinions from different people
This is basically what any other event can offer (Redemption for example), except this one is exceptionally violent.
And BTW, when you say "amazing talent," you mean really good at...
senseless violence and ... run[ning] and throw[ing] stuff
::)
I agree that football has little point to it,if redemption was as popular as football ,that be awesome!
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if redemption was as popular as football ,that be awesome!
If an alien came to my house and gave me chocolate, that would be pretty awesome, too, and probably more likely. :P
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if redemption was as popular as football ,that be awesome!
If an alien came to my house and gave me chocolate, that would be pretty awesome, too, and probably more likely. :P
True
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I watch it because its actually like chess. There is a LOT of strategy that goes into each play.
Plus, theres nothing like watching a guy from your team make an interception and run past everyone for a touchdown.
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I watch it because its actually like chess. There is a LOT of strategy that goes into each play.
Plus, theres nothing like watching a guy from your team make an interception and run past everyone for a touchdown.
VERY GOOD POINT! ::) ::) ::) ::) :rollin: :rollin: :rollin:
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People like football because
1. amazing talent
2. something to pass time(entertaining)
3. a time to group up with friends
4. other opinions from different people
This is basically what any other event can offer (Redemption for example), except this one is exceptionally violent.
And BTW, when you say "amazing talent," you mean really good at...
senseless violence and ... run[ning] and throw[ing] stuff
::)
Violent is not the word that comes to mind. Maybe physical, but violence has nothing to do with football. Violence seems more descriptive of sports such as hockey or ultimate fighting. I think "amazing talent" refers to the physical gifts God has blessed these individuals with.
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Adotson, your comment about hockey is both uninformed and untrue. Hockey has less violence and injury prevelance than football, as well as more strategy. Football is, by nature, a sport of collision and not contact. Contact sports are things such as basketball or hockey, where yes, contact occurs, but it is not necessary to win, and is controlled. Football is a collision sport, where extreme physical contact occurs virtually unstopped and is uncontrolled, and is necessary to win.
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Plus, theres nothing like watching a guy from your team make an interception and run past everyone for a touchdown.
This is exactly what I'm saying. You can say you like it for the strategy, but every argument for football that I have ever heard has ended with something like, "Plus, when that guy runs really fast and hits stuff, that is so cool!" :P Why? Why is this appealing?
Violent is not the word that comes to mind. Maybe physical, but violence has nothing to do with football.
If something frequently results in painful, life-altering injuries, or if the purpose of the game is to bring your opponent unwillingly from a standing position to a lying down position in any way possible, I call it violent. Maybe we have different definitions. (Instaposted by Alex, with whom I agree.)
I think "amazing talent" refers to the physical gifts God has blessed these individuals with.
Okay...but what are those gifts being used for? You can also say that Adolf Hitler was really talented because God blessed him with the gift of leadership, couldn't you?
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Anymore though, you trip and land on a kickers foot and you get penalized, while outright brawling in Hockey seems to have no penalties (not sure as I like, never watch hockey).
Still, Football really is not all that violent. People run into eachother, fall down, and yeah injuries happen, but how often are the serious injuries INTENTIONAL? Most broken bones and such are almost always complete accidents. Plus, often times you'll see guys from one team helping up someone from another team, so they arent out to hurt eachother. Usually their intention is to simply stop the other person from getting past them.
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You get 5 minutes in the penalty box for fighting, as well as possible game misconducts and game suspensions.
Football IS all that violent in comparison to every other sport (except for like, Rugby). Until you can show that it isn't, we are not really required to prove our negative.
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BB stated in his original post that football is nothing but throwing a ball around and senseless violence... I fail to see senseless violence, especially when compared to everything else thats on TV these days (See, all the crime investigation shows).
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In Hockey, you are TRAINED to injure people; you are trained to knock them down constantly against a wall, against and again, because if they actually fall down you get penalized. This is a violent sport. When someone on the opposite side of the ice rink slam someone against a wall, they aren't playing the game or trying to do something that HAPPENS to require you hitting someone; their entire goal is to injure that other person.
This never happens in football. Your goal is to tackle them, NOT to hurt them. Yes, people are injured. But unintentionally. You are always going to have jerks in a sport who want to injure other plays (in baseball people slam into the catcher and get them injured for life, in one case, I can't remember the batter's name, he actually killed the catcher). But in football the average person is not trying to be violent, only affective.
Also keep in mind that you are only trying to tackle one side of the field. In Hockey, for instance, everyone is out for everyone except for the guy with the puck, who is trying to score.
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Because Brett Favre doesn't play any other sport.
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Plus, theres nothing like watching a guy from your team make an interception and run past everyone for a touchdown.
This is exactly what I'm saying. You can say you like it for the strategy, but every argument for football that I have ever heard has ended with something like, "Plus, when that guy runs really fast and hits stuff, that is so cool!" :P Why? Why is this appealing?
Why is playing cards appealing?
Violent is not the word that comes to mind. Maybe physical, but violence has nothing to do with football.
If something frequently results in painful, life-altering injuries, or if the purpose of the game is to bring your opponent unwillingly from a standing position to a lying down position in any way possible, I call it violent. Maybe we have different definitions. (Instaposted by Alex, with whom I agree.)
The point of football is not to tackle people. The point is to score points by kicking, throwing, or running a ball. Thousands of people choke while eating each year, so I guess eating is violent by your definition.
I think "amazing talent" refers to the physical gifts God has blessed these individuals with.
Okay...but what are those gifts being used for? You can also say that Adolf Hitler was really talented because God blessed him with the gift of leadership, couldn't you?
Their athletic gifts are being used for entertainment purposes. Adolf Hitler was VERY talented, and one of the greatest leaders of all time. He was able to unite and motivate an entire nation. I just don't agree with his actions, personally.
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Why is playing cards appealing?
If it weren't for the amazing fellowship that comes from it, I might ask the same question.
The point of football is not to tackle people. The point is to score points by kicking, throwing, or running a ball.
The point of mugging is not to stab people, either. It is to get their money. But stabbing is often essential in attaining this goal. And the love of money is to blame.
Thousands of people choke while eating each year, so I guess eating is violent by your definition.
Choking that results in painful, life-altering injuries is extremely rare.
Their athletic gifts are being used for entertainment purposes.
It's only entertaining because we have set it up to be that way. This doesn't hit the main issue of why football is appealing at all.
Adolf Hitler was VERY talented, and one of the greatest leaders of all time. He was able to unite and motivate an entire nation. I just don't agree with his actions, personally.
Exactly. He might have been "talented," as in he could do something very well, but all the talent in the world is multiplied by 0 if not used to God's glory, and divided by 0 if it is.
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The point of mugging is not to stab people, either. It is to get their money. But stabbing is often essential in attaining this goal. And the love of money is to blame.
Why are you trying to compare a game to a criminal offense?
If it weren't for the amazing fellowship that comes from it, I might ask the same question.
Football does the same. All of the players on a team are almost always very close friends. Watching the game is a source of fellowship too, is it not?
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Any my arguments were dropped. I refer to those, I thought they were pretty good. ::)
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Why are you trying to compare a game to a criminal offense?
I succeeded, didn't I? ;) I guess it's just a natural thing to compare stuff you don't like to Adolf Hitler and stabbing people, maybe just to enforce the point that something being a certain way does not make it right. But if you don't like that, how about...the object of giving someone a hug is to demonstrate your love for them, but wrapping your arms around them is a necessary part of that. Happy now? :)
Football does the same. All of the players on a team are almost always very close friends. Watching the game is a source of fellowship too, is it not?
Absolutely correct, but this kind of fun and fellowship comes at the cost of peoples' health and safety, which IMO makes it so much harder to enjoy guiltlessly.
Any my arguments were dropped. I refer to those, I thought they were pretty good. ::)
Oh, yes, of course they were! Now run along and go play with your new stick. Remember to wear your helmet! Such a good boy...;)
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If you have a prob with football,then JUST DONT WATCH IT.
Protesting on cactusgamedesign.com/messageboards is not stopping the NFL or the NCAA. Or the loyal fans of the USA.
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Absolutely correct, but this kind of fun and fellowship comes at the cost of peoples' health and safety, which IMO makes it so much harder to enjoy guiltlessly.
So, in other words, you dislike EVERY sport because they're violent? Any physical activity can put your health and safety at risk. The thing that determines if its violent is if the injuries were intentional or not.
Im gonna go boycott rock climbing because its violent. :P
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My friend Ben hit me with a Ping Pong ball once. That caused untold emotional damage.
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Adotson, your comment about hockey is both uninformed and untrue. Hockey has less violence and injury prevelance than football, as well as more strategy. Football is, by nature, a sport of collision and not contact. Contact sports are things such as basketball or hockey, where yes, contact occurs, but it is not necessary to win, and is controlled. Football is a collision sport, where extreme physical contact occurs virtually unstopped and is uncontrolled, and is necessary to win.
Not really uninformed. Violence is defined as "1 a : exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse." Fighting, which is an accepted part of hockey, is by definition violent. I'm not saying that hockey centers around fighting, but it is part of the sport. I am in no way putting down hockey. I am just saying it is violent. You rarely ever see violent acts on the football field and if you do they are often followed by a severe punishment. Oregon's running back was suspended for the entire season for throwing one punch after the game was over.
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this voc is prothreadative
but what does this all have too do with the awesome cards in the next set? ::)
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You rarely ever see violent acts on the football field and if you do they are often followed by a severe punishment.
I see two armies of 200lbs+ giants running full speed into each other every play, and I don't see them getting a severe punishment. I also see these massive guys tackling an unsuspecting quarter back whenever they can.
That sounds violent IMHO.
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So, in other words, you dislike EVERY sport because they're violent?
You're correct that I dislike sports in general, but I find it coincidental that the most violent ones are the most popular as well.
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You rarely ever see violent acts on the football field and if you do they are often followed by a severe punishment.
I see two armies of 200lbs+ giants running full speed into each other every play, and I don't see them getting a severe punishment. I also see these massive guys tackling an unsuspecting quarter back whenever they can.
That sounds violent IMHO.
You evidently ignored the definition of violence.
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So, in other words, you dislike EVERY sport because they're violent?
You're correct that I dislike sports in general, but I find it coincidental that the most violent ones are the most popular as well.
So, do you agree rock climbing is violent as well? It meets your criteria you have provided in this thread... which is simply that it puts peoples health and safety at risk... and I'll bet that more people have died while rock climbing then when playing football.
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Flame wars are a non-violent sport... and fun to watch ;D
long live colin
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You rarely ever see violent acts on the football field and if you do they are often followed by a severe punishment.
I see two armies of 200lbs+ giants running full speed into each other every play, and I don't see them getting a severe punishment. I also see these massive guys tackling an unsuspecting quarter back whenever they can.
That sounds violent IMHO.
You evidently ignored the definition of violence.
How so? I agree that Football doesn't promote violence, but you said that you rarely see violent acts in Football and I disagree. I see many illegal tackles and whatnot every game, with the intent to harm the opposing players.
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So, in other words, you dislike EVERY sport because they're violent?
You're correct that I dislike sports in general, but I find it coincidental that the most violent ones are the most popular as well.
You also don't realize how many people are put though college though sports do you? the number 1 way to get though college is football schoarships.
Also are you american BB?
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So, do you agree rock climbing is violent as well? It meets your criteria you have provided in this thread... which is simply that it puts peoples health and safety at risk... and I'll bet that more people have died while rock climbing then when playing football.
Man alive, you don't give a guy a break, do you? There is a difference between violent and dangerous. I may not be the most eloquent person on the boards, but hopefully we all know what violent is when we see it. Football is violent. Those who say it is not are kidding themselves, and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.
You also don't realize how many people are put though college though sports do you?
Yes I do, but I don't see how that helps anyone's point.
Also are you american BB?
Again, what does this have to do with anything?
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Americans like football it's simple and Football ain't violnt its vionlnt if fenceing is vionlt.
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I've already explained why I feel football is not violent.
Boxing is violent. Wrestling is violent. In those sports, the complete objective of the game is to injure your opponent to the point that they can't get up.
Football, you're not supposed to injure the other players, and as said before... deliberately hurting another player will result in being removed from the game and/or a suspension.
Football is dangerous, but it is not violent.
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Americans like football it's simple and Football ain't violnt its vionlnt if fenceing is vionlt.
RED, no offense, but you are so hopeless...
Football, you're not supposed to injure the other players, and as said before... deliberately hurting another player will result in being removed from the game and/or a suspension.
Hm...I thought you got captured by game rule. ;) Seriously though, football is a sport which opens up so many opportunities for violence it isn't even funny. And people can be seen taking those opportunities multiple times every day. Sports give an excuse to be violent, and justified violence is violence at its prime...
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Lamborgini_diablo is stating a fact.Bubbleboy,your stating your opinion.If your that clueless what the point of football is and why people like it,look it up on the internet.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Why am I hopless because I can't spell one word?(violent)
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Seriously though, football is a sport which opens up so many opportunities for violence it isn't even funny. And people can be seen taking those opportunities multiple times every day. Sports give an excuse to be violent, and justified violence is violence at its prime...
Almost everything in life can open up opportunities for violence. Is driving now violent as well? People with road rage show many violent tendancies, many people die from driving, and it generally puts your health and safety at risk.
I still hold that an activity is only to be deemed violent if the OBJECTIVE of the activity is to injure another person.
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Red should download Firefox. It comes with a spell check.
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Your not hopeless RED,your image is just filled with sarcasim.
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So, in other words, you dislike EVERY sport because they're violent?
You're correct that I dislike sports in general, but I find it coincidental that the most violent ones are the most popular as well.
You also don't realize how many people are put though college though sports do you? the number 1 way to get though college is football schoarships.
Also are you american BB?
[in b4 da lock] I dont think he is.... maybe canadian[/in b4 da lock]
Also are you american BB?
Again, what does this have to do with anything?
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It doesn't look normal to me, but I don't know
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Well, he does live in MN, that's like south canada right? :)
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Lamborgini_diablo is stating a fact.Bubbleboy,your stating your opinion.
Actually, both of us are enforcing our own opinions. And who are you to call me clueless? What shred of compelling evidence have you provided for anything so far?
I still hold that an activity is only to be deemed violent if the OBJECTIVE of the activity is to injure another person.
You have the right to maintain this, but I judge the level of violence of an activity by the amount of intentional harm inflicted through it.
And I actually live in North North Mexico. ;)
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FACT 1. FOOTBALL IS NOT A GAME OF VIOLENCE.SHOW ME ANYTHING THAT SAYS AGAINST THIS FACT.
FACT 2. Dont say football is violent unless you have something to support your judgment.
PLEASE STATE A FACT OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PROVE RIGHT! >:(
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FACT 1. FOOTBALL IS NOT A GAME OF VIOLENCE.SHOW ME ANYTHING THAT SAYS AGAINST THIS FACT.
FACT 2. Dont say football is violent unless you have something to support your judgment.
PLEASE STATE A FACT OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PROVE RIGHT! >:(
YELLING IN CAPS LOCK DOES NOT MAKE YOUR POINT VALID! NOR DOES IT MAKE YOU RIGHT!
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Thank you.
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Caps lock: CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
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YOU STILL NEED TO STEER.
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FACT 1. FOOTBALL IS NOT A GAME OF VIOLENCE.SHOW ME ANYTHING THAT SAYS AGAINST THIS FACT.
FACT 2. Dont say football is violent unless you have something to support your judgment.
PLEASE STATE A FACT OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PROVE RIGHT! >:(
YELLING IN CAPS LOCK DOES NOT MAKE YOUR POINT VALID! NOR DOES IT MAKE YOU RIGHT!
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Very true,not trying to be valid,I am "valid".And literally Krazyprez,tell me something against my statement that is not valid.
Thank you.
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I was interested in this thread for a while, but now it looks like this
Bubble Boy: I DON'T LIKE FOOTBALL SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT LIKING IT WITH FALLACIES!
Lambo: *sound reason, sound reason, dictionary citation, sound reason*
Kiddies: SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM
Bubble Boy: FOOTBALL MAKES ME CRY!
Lambo: *sound reason, sound reason, dictionary citation, sound reason*
Why don't we cut through all the noise. Bubble Boy, was one of your friends or loved ones recently injured in a football game? Did you recently attend a bible study that put football down? Why don't we talk about the issue instead of hiding behind blinds while dancing around it?
Lambo, I'm surprised you didn't point out that if "violent" sports are the most popular, Rugby should be on top.
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I was interested in this thread for a while, but now it looks like this
Bubble Boy: I DON'T LIKE FOOTBALL SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT LIKING IT WITH FALLACIES!
Lambo: *sound reason, sound reason, dictionary citation, sound reason*
Kiddies: SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM
Bubble Boy: FOOTBALL MAKES ME CRY!
Lambo: *sound reason, sound reason, dictionary citation, sound reason*
Why don't we cut through all the noise. Bubble Boy, was one of your friends or loved ones recently injured in a football game? Did you recently attend a bible study that put football down? Why don't we talk about the issue instead of hiding behind blinds while dancing around it?
Lambo, I'm surprised you didn't point out that if "violent" sports are the most popular, Rugby should be on top.
Wow,I have to say that deserves a LOL and a waste of time starting this "Football" post by bubbleboy.
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I was interested in this thread for a while, but now it looks like this
Bubble Boy: I DON'T LIKE FOOTBALL SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT LIKING IT WITH FALLACIES!
Lambo: *sound reason, sound reason, dictionary citation, sound reason*
Kiddies: SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM
Bubble Boy: FOOTBALL MAKES ME CRY!
Lambo: *sound reason, sound reason, dictionary citation, sound reason*
Why don't we cut through all the noise. Bubble Boy, was one of your friends or loved ones recently injured in a football game? Did you recently attend a bible study that put football down? Why don't we talk about the issue instead of hiding behind blinds while dancing around it?
Lambo, I'm surprised you didn't point out that if "violent" sports are the most popular, Rugby should be on top.
this is so possible it makes me forget spamming.. and makes me want to actually post something factual(like i usually do)
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I dont watch much rugby, and I only use arguments I know I can support (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/support). :)
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Now don't get me wrong, I love BB and he's one of the best contributors on this board, but I can smell euphemism and hidden motivation a mile away and there is a ton of it here.
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Now don't get me wrong, I love BB and he's one of the best contributors on this board, but I can smell euphemism and hidden motivation a mile away and there is a ton of it here.
the butler did it
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Now don't get me wrong, I love BB and he's one of the best contributors on this board, but I can smell euphemism and hidden motivation a mile away and there is a ton of it here.
the buckler did it
Fixed.
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Now don't get me wrong, I love BB and he's one of the best contributors on this board, but I can smell euphemism and hidden motivation a mile away and there is a ton of it here.
the 0/2 buckler did it
Fixed.
double Fixed
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Obviously! What other buckler would anyone want to use? Also, I have to give you props just for taking the time to post that huge post. It was kind of spam... but still. ;)
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WI was interested in this thread for a while, but now it looks like this
Bubble Boy: I DON'T LIKE FOOTBALL SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT LIKING IT WITH FALLACIES!
Lambo: *sound reason, sound reason, dictionary citation, sound reason*
Kiddies: SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM
Bubble Boy: FOOTBALL MAKES ME CRY!
Lambo: *sound reason, sound reason, dictionary citation, sound reason*
Why don't we cut through all the noise. Bubble Boy, was one of your friends or loved ones recently injured in a football game? Did you recently attend a bible study that put football down? Why don't we talk about the issue instead of hiding behind blinds while dancing around it?
Lambo, I'm surprised you didn't point out that if "violent" sports are the most popular, Rugby should be on top.
Wow,I have to say that deserves a LOL and a waste of time starting this "Football" post by bubbleboy.
I just want to say that I'm really sorry. I don't know what it is, but I've been a real jerk about this whole thing, and I'm not really sure why. I don't even want to argue. Football is fine - it's actually a great way to meet people and stay active and find entertainment - there's nothing wrong about it. I guess I just don't like it. I'm sorry, I had no reason to start this thread. Lambo and Pol, you are both correct. I'm sorry for wasting your time, and for insulting everyone. :-[
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Now don't get me wrong, I love BB and he's one of the best contributors on this board, but I can smell euphemism and hidden motivation a mile away and there is a ton of it here.
I completely agree with Pol that there is some sort of hidden motivation behind this thread. The difficulty is figuring out what it is. Both high school, college, and professional football seasons are over, and have been for at least a couple months. So people aren't really talking about them much right now anyway. The only think I can figure is that there is some girl that BB likes, and she is annoying him by being too enamored with some football jock instead of BB. Of course this is completely conjecture :)
instaposted. On the other hand, maybe not :)
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A few errors exist in this thread.
1. If by saying "fighting is accepted in hockey", you mean it carries a 5 minute penalty, you are correct. If your referring to how refs don't intervene until one player is grounded (typically), I'd like to respectfully ask you to intervene the next time you see two 200 pound guys throwing down.
2. Football scholarships are NOT NOT NOT NOT the best way to get to college for free RED. This lie has perpetrated America. The best way to go to college for free is to work hard in school, get good grades, and learn how to write well. This includes grammar, spelling, style, and flow of your essays. You might not get into school such as Notre Dame, but I gurantee you that you will have a better chance of paying nothing to go to a school that will give you a good education.
3. Oregon's LaGarrette Blunt was suspended for a total of 8 games. The original suspension was indefinately and he was reinstated later in the year. It should also be noted he threw the punch after the game - not during it. Therefore, I find it to be a weak argument that senseless violence is not permitted during a football game.
I feel it incumbent on me to defend my personal favorite sport, hockey. It is by far less violent than football. Football necessitates contact, and in fact, favors you when you put a player on the ground via a pancake block, stiff arm, broken tackle, etc. By doing this, you are directly helping your team win by elimating threats for the runner. In Hockey, hitting players does little to help you put the puck in the net, which is the goal of the game. Hitting merely serves as a means to establish yourself as a team that is not afraid and that will work hard to win. Occasionally it serves as a means of seperating the puck from the puck carrier. But by no means does a team have to hit to win. Find me a team in football who does not hit and wins.
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New Orleans Saints. Thank you very much. Also, Alex Ovechkin choked again :)
(I hope you're not a capitals fan....)
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Did i say they were the best? NO!!!!! i said they are ONE of the top ways to get into college not the BEST way or top way.
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So the Saints offensive line didn't hit people? That's interesting. I'm from Pittsburgh. So you can just imagine about how happy I am about Ovechkin.
Sidenote: Washington's Powerplay went 1-33 against Montreal. Pittsburgh went 4-4 in Game 1 of their Series against Montreal tonight. Just saying.
As for you RED, does this quote look familiar?
You also don't realize how many people are put though college though sports do you? the number 1 way to get though college is football schoarships
Do your homework before you say things.
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Oops :doh: Also the boards still feel like everybody trying to kill each other again. Cmon a thread dissing Football, Chirstmas,really?
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Everyone is trying to kill each other or everyone disagrees with you and you don't like it? People can diss what they want to diss as long as they do it respectfully with factually backing. I haven't seen any reason to think that BB or Lambo or anyone else involved here does not have factual backing. Everyone has provided something, even if it's weak.
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I'm from Pittsburgh. So you can just imagine about how happy I am about Ovechkin.
Thrilled, excited, happy beyond belief?
Sorry to burst your bubble but Its gonna be a wings/pens final again, with the wings getting revenge :) (This is probably completely untrue, I know very little about hockey outside of what I hear on sportscenter :) )
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That's a shame, because SportsCenter probably has better coverage of Pamplona's running of the bulls than it does of Hockey.
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The only think I can figure is that there is some girl that BB likes, and she is annoying him by being too enamored with some football jock instead of BB.
Lol, you apparently have never met me. :P
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BB always ends up stealing the jock's girlfriends.... even when he isn't trying.
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1. If by saying "fighting is accepted in hockey", you mean it carries a 5 minute penalty, you are correct. If your referring to how refs don't intervene until one player is grounded (typically), I'd like to respectfully ask you to intervene the next time you see two 200 pound guys throwing down.
Well then what's the point of refs? Rules that can't be enforced? Why have rules at all? Sounds violent. ;)
I feel it incumbent on me to defend my personal favorite sport, hockey. It is by far less violent than football. Football necessitates contact, and in fact, favors you when you put a player on the ground via a pancake block, stiff arm, broken tackle, etc. By doing this, you are directly helping your team win by elimating threats for the runner. In Hockey, hitting players does little to help you put the puck in the net, which is the goal of the game. Hitting merely serves as a means to establish yourself as a team that is not afraid and that will work hard to win. Occasionally it serves as a means of seperating the puck from the puck carrier. But by no means does a team have to hit to win. Find me a team in football who does not hit and wins.
When Adrian Peterson stiffs arms people to the ground, it's self defense. We can all agree that self defense is good. ;D
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This is basically what any other event can offer (Redemption for example), except this one is exceptionally violent.
Ok I skipped every other page when I saw this. Football exceptionally violent? Sounds like you can not tackle someone so you just say that.
Tackling someone is not violent, I would consider fishing more violent. And you said something about talent? You go run a 4.4 forty or go catch a pass on the run with a defensive player covering you. Quit hating on athletes, go work out or run cuz this post is pathetic.
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This is basically what any other event can offer (Redemption for example), except this one is exceptionally violent.
Ok I skipped every other page when I saw this. Football exceptionally violent? Sounds like you can not tackle someone so you just say that.
Tackling someone is not violent, I would consider fishing more violent. And you said something about talent? You go run a 4.4 forty or go catch a pass on the run with a defensive player covering you. Quit hating on athletes, go work out or run cuz this post is pathetic.
I'm sorry, you're right, I had no place in saying this.
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I know I sorta started the big debate with him, but cut him some slack... he's allowed to have an opinion. Notice how I stopped once we both clearly stated our opinions, because at that point an argument would have just been pointless.
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I'm not going to get into this as much as I want to. I'll just end up offending someone :P
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I actually had a bunch of 12 year olds ask me at a restaurant tonight if I played football for UT, University of Tennessee that is. I found that pretty funny.
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When Adrian Peterson stiffs arms people to the ground, it's self defense. We can all agree that self defense is good.
At first I groaned, and then I remembered you've been around long enough to know what it is you were referencing, and then I lol'd.
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This isn't the REAL Football the REAL football is in England ::)