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Title: error cards
Post by: niksag on January 29, 2013, 08:33:44 AM
What are the known error cards?
What are the errors?

I searched the boards .but had no luck answering my questions.
If there is already a thread on this? If so where?
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: lp670sv on January 29, 2013, 09:13:11 AM
non error cards are anything that was printed correctly, 99.9% of cards basically.
Error cards are cards that were printed with egregious errors such as certain cards being the wrong brigade, the card type indicator being upside down, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Westok Kiok on January 29, 2013, 09:29:15 AM
Two examples would be 'Kindness' from the first expansion having a cross icon instead of a bible one; and Jochebed from the women's set having no icon in her box.

I don't know the whole list, but Kindess (UN), Jochebed (WO), and Bravery of Priscilla (WO) are ones I have seen.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: niksag on January 29, 2013, 09:30:45 AM
Where can I find a list of these?
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Professoralstad on January 29, 2013, 09:40:01 AM
The errors I know of are:

-Kindness from Unlimited Set: Has a cross icon instead of a Bible--not very rare
-Stolen Blessing from Patriarchs: Missing a special ability whereas the non-error has one--not very rare
-Jochebed, Lydia, Jairus' Daughter and Bravery of Priscilla: Missing their icons and abilities--rare, only a few sets of these in existence
-Various silver cards from Priests and Disciples, known examples include Birth Foretold, Wheat and Tares, Gabriel, and Angel in the Path, possibly others: The brigades appear to be white--very rare, only 1-2 of each are known about in existence.
-Several G&H deck cards (I think mostly the Purple ones): They have blank white backs, without the Redemption sword--rare, only a few sets of these are known to exist.

Other than those, there may be several cards that appear as errors, but are really only variations that are fairly commonplace. Examples include Apostles cards that have the Jesus fish going one direction on one copy and the other direction on another copy of the same card, Patriarchs cards that have different-colored borders between cards or the card art is flipped horizontally between copies, Shadow from Angel Wars has two different special abilities--one that mentions Storehouse and one that doesn't, and Storehouse has two suns in some copies. While these variations are cool, they are not really rare or valuable.

Title: Re: error cards
Post by: niksag on January 29, 2013, 09:49:54 AM
That's just what I was after
Thanks
Ive got a ton of cards off ebay that I am going through and sorting. And I wanted to look for these.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Professoralstad on January 29, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
It is unlikely that you would have any, but if you did happen to have the white Women cards with no icons, then those would be worth something. I would bet you probably have some Kindness "Heroes" or Stolen Blessings with no SAs, but those really aren't worth anything.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on January 29, 2013, 10:31:47 AM
There were also foof cards printed without backs, but I think Ken had the entire set.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: browarod on January 29, 2013, 11:16:48 AM
There are also some G/H white cards printed without abilities (*/*).
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: soul seeker on January 29, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
There were also foof cards printed without backs, but I think Ken had the entire set.
Correction...I have them.

There are also some G/H white cards printed without abilities (*/*).
Correction (to my knowledge): It was the purple brigade, and I have those too.

-Several G&H deck cards (I think mostly the Purple ones): They have blank white backs, without the Redemption sword--rare, only a few sets of these are known to exist.
I'm not aware of these errors....could you be thinking of the purple cards without numbers? 


For niksag, I try to collect the super-rare errors when I have the money for them.  Tax income is coming.   ;D
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: niksag on January 29, 2013, 11:33:45 AM
Ill keep you in mind if I find any.
But like the professor said, probably wont
It wont hurt to look though, I already have hours of sorting aheaf of me.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: lp670sv on January 29, 2013, 11:58:19 AM
Greeson buys all the nice things  :'(
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Lampy 2.0 on January 29, 2013, 01:26:14 PM
I think that when Priests debuted at Nats '06, the cards were a bit larger than the should've been.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: TheMarti on January 29, 2013, 01:42:27 PM
Yes, I remember that! The Priests that were actually at Nats were a bit larger, and you had to have them sleeved at the tournaments that year. I don't know if anyone would even notice that anymore..
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: The Guardian on January 29, 2013, 01:42:49 PM
That was a mistake made by the printing company so the shipment that Rob brought to Nats was all like that. They aren't really errors.

There were also foof cards printed without backs, but I think Ken had the entire set.
Correction...I have them.

I have one set of them, FooF set V.  :) Do you have a complete set SS?

Title: Re: error cards
Post by: YourMathTeacher on January 29, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
That was a mistake made by the printing company so the shipment that Rob brought to Nats was all like that. They aren't really errors.

Stolen Blessing isn't technically an error either, since it was intentionally printed with and without the SA, to be a play on the title.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: lp670sv on January 29, 2013, 01:53:46 PM
An error is an error no matter who made it. If Stolen Blessings was indeed purposely printed that way than I don't think that should be counted as an error card, but the accidentally too large cards are still an error.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: soul seeker on January 29, 2013, 02:03:52 PM
That was a mistake made by the printing company so the shipment that Rob brought to Nats was all like that. They aren't really errors.

There were also foof cards printed without backs, but I think Ken had the entire set.
Correction...I have them.

I have one set of them, FooF set V.  :) Do you have a complete set SS?
Ken did warn me that one set was missing, so I would have to check to see if it is indeed set V that is gone.  If it is, then would you be willing to part with it?  Just so you know, I expect my income tax return in March.   ;)
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Professoralstad on January 29, 2013, 02:06:36 PM
Quote
-Several G&H deck cards (I think mostly the Purple ones): They have blank white backs, without the Redemption sword--rare, only a few sets of these are known to exist.
I'm not aware of these errors....could you be thinking of the purple cards without numbers? 

Yeah, probably.

Title: Re: error cards
Post by: The Guardian on January 29, 2013, 02:48:29 PM
That was a mistake made by the printing company so the shipment that Rob brought to Nats was all like that. They aren't really errors.

There were also foof cards printed without backs, but I think Ken had the entire set.
Correction...I have them.

I have one set of them, FooF set V.  :) Do you have a complete set SS?
Ken did warn me that one set was missing, so I would have to check to see if it is indeed set V that is gone.  If it is, then would you be willing to part with it?  Just so you know, I expect my income tax return in March.   ;)

If you make me an offer I can't refuse, then I guess I can't refuse...  ;)
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: soul seeker on January 29, 2013, 03:35:12 PM
Upon further review, I should say that I have all that Ken had.
As for complete set, I am missing....
    set 2 (which I was aware of)
    set 5 (which apparently The Guardian has)
    The Destroyer from set 7

My completionistic OCD side of me is aching, but I will have to wait until tax money before attempting to rectify the situation.   :-\
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Redoubter on January 29, 2013, 06:48:35 PM
Quote
-Several G&H deck cards (I think mostly the Purple ones): They have blank white backs, without the Redemption sword--rare, only a few sets of these are known to exist.
I'm not aware of these errors....could you be thinking of the purple cards without numbers? 

Yeah, probably.

Are you referring maybe to the both-blank cards (both sides white) that show up in G+H?  I know there are a few of those in my playgroup (I have two of them, I think), and I'm pretty sure my brother pulled one from a G+H deck.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Professoralstad on January 30, 2013, 10:26:28 AM
Are you referring maybe to the both-blank cards (both sides white) that show up in G+H?  I know there are a few of those in my playgroup (I have two of them, I think), and I'm pretty sure my brother pulled one from a G+H deck.

I'm pretty sure that's called cardstock...

But no, it was the Purple cards without numbers.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: STAMP on January 30, 2013, 12:45:59 PM
As error cards go, I'm surprised to hear about some of the newer ones on the list.  I tried to obtain some error cards for my collection, but SS always outbid me.  ;)

I do have a quasi-error card that I like but is priceless: a 2K horses card got caught in the sealing of the pack so it has a "jagged edge".

And when I say "priceless", I mean you'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands!  ;D   Just like the holy trinity of my collection: Gabe autographed rookie card, Fishing Boat autographed by the Elders at Nats, and the latest is an ANB that is autographed AND has a tattoo (I call it a Champ stamp)!
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Professoralstad on January 30, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
and the latest is an ANB that is autographed AND has a tattoo (I call it a Champ stamp)!

Is that the one that I used in my 2nd Place 2011 Sealed Deck? I don't remember the tattoo...

That ANB saved me in a 5-4 game that allowed me to get around a Balaam's Disobedience. The character who played BD of course wasn't shuffled, but I was able to get my Moses on the ensuing turn, and my opponent didn't draw anything to stop it. Good times.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: The Guardian on January 30, 2013, 12:59:28 PM
Ah yes, the "jagged edge" cards. I had a couple of those--some worse than others. I think my "best" one was Backward Shadow...should see if I can find that. Would you be interested in acquiring that one STAMP?  :)
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: STAMP on January 30, 2013, 02:20:42 PM
and the latest is an ANB that is autographed AND has a tattoo (I call it a Champ stamp)!

Is that the one that I used in my 2nd Place 2011 Sealed Deck? I don't remember the tattoo...

That ANB saved me in a 5-4 game that allowed me to get around a Balaam's Disobedience. The character who played BD of course wasn't shuffled, but I was able to get my Moses on the ensuing turn, and my opponent didn't draw anything to stop it. Good times.

I just received it in a trade with Platinum Angel.  The Champ stamp runs along the left side and bottom of card.  Looks really sweet!  (I should post a pic.)

Yours is on the first page of the ANB binder because you related a story with it.  :)

Ah yes, the "jagged edge" cards. I had a couple of those--some worse than others. I think my "best" one was Backward Shadow...should see if I can find that. Would you be interested in acquiring that one STAMP?  :)

Has it been used?  If not, sure.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: The Guardian on January 30, 2013, 03:12:47 PM
Pretty sure I never used it...I may also have a Bearing Bad News, but I'll have to do some digging around.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Westok Kiok on February 04, 2013, 12:48:45 PM
I'm not sure if this is an error card or not. I came across it this morning in a pile of older cards.

My 'Faith As Children' Warriors card has an emblem on the bottom that has both a Warriors 'sword' and a Women's 'W'. Are all the Faith as Children cards like that, or is it considered an error?

                        Thanks, Weston.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Professoralstad on February 04, 2013, 05:39:51 PM
I'm not sure if this is an error card or not. I came across it this morning in a pile of older cards.

My 'Faith As Children' Warriors card has an emblem on the bottom that has both a Warriors 'sword' and a Women's 'W'. Are all the Faith as Children cards like that, or is it considered an error?

                        Thanks, Weston.

Every Faith as Children from the Warrior set that I have seen have the Sword and the W. So it is technically an error, but it is one that is on every copy of the card.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: The Guardian on February 04, 2013, 05:46:45 PM
I believe the technical term is "misprint." See also: Invisible Beings.  :)
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Professoralstad on February 04, 2013, 05:48:21 PM
See...Invisible...

Apparently I have superpowers.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Master KChief on February 04, 2013, 07:49:39 PM
I have a white Angel at Shur.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Platinum_Angel on February 04, 2013, 11:15:06 PM
and the latest is an ANB that is autographed AND has a tattoo (I call it a Champ stamp)!

Is that the one that I used in my 2nd Place 2011 Sealed Deck? I don't remember the tattoo...

That ANB saved me in a 5-4 game that allowed me to get around a Balaam's Disobedience. The character who played BD of course wasn't shuffled, but I was able to get my Moses on the ensuing turn, and my opponent didn't draw anything to stop it. Good times.

I just received it in a trade with Platinum Angel.  The Champ stamp runs along the left side and bottom of card.  Looks really sweet!  (I should post a pic.)

Yours is on the first page of the ANB binder because you related a story with it.  :)

Cool! TY!!  Guess I've made history in Stamps binder!  ;D
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Platinum_Angel on February 04, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
I have some cards with an 'Angel' punched out of the card. What are these?
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Professoralstad on February 05, 2013, 11:20:26 AM
I have some cards with an 'Angel' punched out of the card. What are these?

Probably were cards used for an Ironman tourney at Nationals. Each player had a different shaped punch marker on his cards to keep track of who beat him.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: YourMathTeacher on February 05, 2013, 12:25:53 PM
Probably were cards used for an Ironman tourney at Nationals. Each player had a different shaped punch marker on his cards to keep track of who beat him.

Interesting. My card probably would have looked like a kindergarten snowflake, if any part of it was still left after the tournament.  :o
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: lp670sv on February 05, 2013, 12:29:44 PM
Interesting. My card probably would have looked like a kindergarten snowflake, if any part of it was still left after the tournament.  :o

But it would have been a very pretty snowflake and that's good too!
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: STAMP on February 05, 2013, 01:35:03 PM
Probably were cards used for an Ironman tourney at Nationals. Each player had a different shaped punch marker on his cards to keep track of who beat him.

Interesting. My card probably would have looked like a kindergarten snowflake, if any part of it was still left after the tournament.  :o

You and I will have to enter the Aluminumman tourney.  ;)
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: niksag on February 11, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
I just found a
reckless endangerment [ black ee (priests)]
Where redemption side is wrong
White border around pic is only on two sides and twice as thick
The R in redemption is outlined in white and. And kinda brown ,yellow , red cammo looking?
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Platinum_Angel on February 11, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
I would definitely like to see a pic of that!! :o
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: niksag on February 11, 2013, 10:20:34 PM
I would definitely like to see a pic of that!! :o

Dont know how post it?
Pm me your email , and I can send it that way.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Chris on February 11, 2013, 10:49:20 PM
Once you have a picture of it, go to www.imgur.com and upload the picture there. Then post the link.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Westok Kiok on February 11, 2013, 11:17:09 PM
Today, I came across some prophet?/unlimited? cards that are definitely different. The white around the cards is uneven. Instead of being the same width all the way around, it is way wider on the bottom. There's basically no white on the top of the card. They belong to a friend, and I was wondering if it would be worth it to trade anything for them.

 Thanks, Weston.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Platinum_Angel on February 11, 2013, 11:23:48 PM
Just from the experience I have had with these cards unless the picture is all the way off the card, they are not worth anything more than what the card is normally worth. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: browarod on February 12, 2013, 07:32:30 PM
There's tons of Priests cards (most of the initial printing, I think) with skewed white borders, so that's mostly common as opposed to errors, lol.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: YourMathTeacher on February 12, 2013, 07:45:08 PM
If anything, the lack of centering devalues the cards, since they are no longer considered "mint."
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Platinum_Angel on February 12, 2013, 08:42:43 PM
I would definitely like to see a pic of that!! :o

Dont know how post it?
Pm me your email , and I can send it that way.

Cool!! I have to say ive never seen that before. Looks like the printer was off a little in the center. Very strange.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: 777Godspeed on April 22, 2013, 09:03:46 PM
I have a white Angel at Shur.

I have a White Angel at Shur also..... If memory serves, there are only 3 in existence..... a trinity if you will, NOT the Trinity mind you....  ::)


Godspeed,
Mike
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: Minion of Jesus on April 23, 2013, 07:51:16 AM
I have a blank fronted card with the redemption back. Although it's not worth much, it's still cool to have.
Title: Re: error cards
Post by: YourMathTeacher on April 23, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
I have both 1979 Topps versions of Bump Wills - Rangers and Blue Jays. The Blue Jays card still has him wearing the Rangers uniform.  ;D
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