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Title: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: Neil Da BOMB J on September 17, 2011, 04:19:17 PM
..........that AoCP says MAY not be negated as oppose to the usual CAN not.
SP: Discard all evil characters in play May not be interrupted negated of prevented.

Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 17, 2011, 04:22:06 PM
It's an older card, so it uses out-dated language. That's all.
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: Neil Da BOMB J on September 17, 2011, 04:26:26 PM
It's an older card, so it uses out-dated language. That's all.
Yeah but no other card says May does it?
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: I am Knot a Blonde! on September 17, 2011, 04:31:58 PM
Yes, there are other cards that say May not be negated, interrupted, prevented... etc.
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 17, 2011, 04:33:54 PM
May not and cannot mean the same thing in English in that part of speech.
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: SomeKittens on September 17, 2011, 09:45:58 PM
It's an older card, so it uses out-dated language. That's all.
Yeah but no other card says May does it?
There are plenty of cards that say may (see most of the drawing cards).  There are still others that say may like AoCP, but are from older sets.
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: The Warrior on September 17, 2011, 11:39:26 PM
May not and cannot mean the same thing in English in that part of speech.
In game it is just out dated wording in fact it says right it the Plas-As (http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/Master/authorityofchristp.htm), yes. but outside the game its Different, May its usually something that is likely, whereas Can is a Certainty
e.g.
I May Not Be Able to Attend
I Cannot attend
(or since the Card is describing something it Can't do in 3rd Person it would be more appropriate this way:
1337 May not be Divided by 0 < The way i read it May=Might [ {e.g.}Sauce's 1337th post might be trolling]>
in comparison with
1337 Cannot be Divided by 0 <No-way,No-how is 1337 being divided> )
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: lightningninja on September 17, 2011, 11:41:03 PM
That is just outdated wording. But on many cards "may" and "cannot" have completely different meanings. May means you choose, cannot means you can't.
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: SomeKittens on September 18, 2011, 06:37:48 PM
That is just outdated wording. But on many cards "may" and "cannot" have completely different meanings. May means you choose, cannot means you can't.
In English, it depends on the context.  For instance, if Gandalf had informed the Balrog that "YOU MAY NOT PASS!" do you think that this Miai warrior would wait patiently for Gandalf to determine if he'd let the Balrog pass?
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 18, 2011, 11:13:12 PM
I May Not Be Able to Attend
I Cannot attend
You changed the sentence there, but even then, it's a different part of speech. You correct this with the next two, though:
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(or since the Card is describing something it Can't do in 3rd Person it would be more appropriate this way:
1337 May not be Divided by 0 < The way i read it May=Might [ {e.g.}Sauce's 1337th post might be trolling]>
in comparison with
1337 Cannot be Divided by 0 <No-way,No-how is 1337 being divided> )
How you read it is irrelevant. "X may not be done by Y" is the same as "X cannot be done by Y."
Title: Re: Does anybody think this strange.......
Post by: lightningninja on September 18, 2011, 11:32:54 PM
That is just outdated wording. But on many cards "may" and "cannot" have completely different meanings. May means you choose, cannot means you can't.
In English, it depends on the context.  For instance, if Gandalf had informed the Balrog that "YOU MAY NOT PASS!" do you think that this Miai warrior would wait patiently for Gandalf to determine if he'd let the Balrog pass?
No. I think it'd be up to the BALROG to pass or not, in which case I'd say he'd pass. He doesn't' seem like the patient type.
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