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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Sadness on March 22, 2011, 05:09:05 PM
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What was the best set and why?
What was the worst set and why?
By the way,this is my personal opinion. If I offend anyone,let me know.
Best: Rock of Ages Reason: Gives me some excellent white cards to use in my decks(TGT)
Worst: Angel Wars Reason: Didn't like the idea of basing the set off a cartoon,plus the idea a demon working
with angels for good-struck me as wrong. Some decent cards through.
Your thoughts?
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Worst:Blue Pack
Reason:Not very good cards
Best:Texp
Reason:Pretty well balanced set and I liked the format of the pack.(except mayhem, are you protected?)
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Best set: Patriarchs
Reason: The yellow is really masculine just like me.
Worst set: TEXP
Reason: I can't spell it.
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Best: Prophets (also my favorite set)
Most balanced set by far and outside of one or two cards almost all of the cards are still usable and all of the cards are really fun!
Worst: Rock of Ages
Outside of the lost souls which are all really good. I dont think this set really brought much to the game except many sad faces with the rise of TGT.
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Best: Prophets (also my favorite set)
Most balanced set by far and outside of one or two cards almost all of the cards are still usable and all of the cards are really fun!
Worst: Rock of Ages
Outside of the lost souls which are all really good. I dont think this set really brought much to the game except many sad faces with the rise of TGT.
Except like 5 cards I've never recently seen Prophets cards in a deck. Many of them have no Special abilities. I really hope this is a joke. If it is it is not funny.
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No im serious even the no SA cards are very good try taking down a 5/4 Green N.T Prophet with Windows up. Super Gad and some of those 6/3 dudes have been fan faves for ages. Also who doesnt want to use False Peace or own king David with The False Prophet. I know I sure do!
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My favorite is Di
worst favorite is blue
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Worst set: TexP
-60 cards? Lame. And only two new cards per pack? Lame. And no mint condition cards? lame.
Best set: Priests or Patriarchs
-Undecided which was better. Probably Priests. Priests introduced themes, nothing was broken, and the only real problem was that it didn't kill speed (which still hasn't been killed).
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My favorite is Di
worst favorite is blue
Are you majoring in grammar?
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Fave:G&H
Least fave:Angel wars
Most game changing:Warriors.
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Best set: Disciples. Almost every single card was useful (per capita the least fluffy set ever released), only one broken card (as opposed to like 3 or 4 per set on average), no Dominants, and for perhaps the first time ever, counters to popular strategies (all previous "counters" had actually been silver bullets or checks).
Worst set: RoA because of TGT. Most unbalanced card printed since New Jerusalem and not a strong enough set otherwise to compensate for it.
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My favorite is Di
worst favorite is blue
I've given you a + 1 for using the phrase "worst favorite"
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Best set: Disciples. Almost every single card was useful (per capita the least fluffy set ever released), only one broken card (as opposed to like 3 or 4 per set on average), no Dominants, and for perhaps the first time ever, counters to popular strategies (all previous "counters" had actually been silver bullets or checks).
Worst set: RoA because of TGT. Most unbalanced card printed since New Jerusalem and not a strong enough set otherwise to compensate for it.
-1 Because Di reset the meta. RoA= Best set besides G&H. Oh yeah Herod's temple is worse than thad.(I have unpopular opinions)
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All tins and whatever TexPs/Disciples are lame. Booster packs are where it's at. What cactus really needs to do is release a full booster set. Sure, there will be fluff, but honestly, imagine opening an ultra rare Thad. Rarities are needed.
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Though there is something to be said for numbering each card.
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I'm sure we could figure something out to get both rarities and numbers on a card ;)
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Best: Prophets (also my favorite set)
Most balanced set by far and outside of one or two cards almost all of the cards are still usable and all of the cards are really fun!
Unfortunately I believe him... He beat me in sealed at Nats in the last round with three prophets packs... I had a Nero and a 3-liner... and an undefeated record.
Best Set: Disciples
Worst Set: RoA (TGT enough said)
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Best Set: Angel Wars (que)
Worse Set: RoA (because of TGT >:( >:( >:( >:( >:()
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When TGT was out no one played counters. Self KOTW was a awesome set.
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Best: Kings because royalty was MIA from our playgroup.
Worst: Kings because it didn't help me win much.
As for knocking RoA:
Weird... I just used a Roman Defense to counter TGT... worked quite well for me. (C'mon, RDJ takes out forts and N.T. heroes).
Cheerio(s),
C_S
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Best: Kings because royalty was MIA from our playgroup.
Worst: Kings because it didn't help me win much.
As for knocking RoA:
Weird... I just used a Roman Defense to counter TGT... worked quite well for me. (C'mon, RDJ takes out forts and N.T. heroes).
Cheerio(s),
C_S
You got to block?! :o
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Best Set: Warriors. From what I'm told, it saved the game of Redemption.
Worst Set: None. They all have their contributing value in some way. They keep the game going year after year. Kudos to all those involved that keep Cactus running.
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Fav: TeXP - This set gets the distinction of being the only set to not include game breaking cards while still being useful
Least Fav: Angel Wars - Crappy art, crappy abilities, crappy URs. The only good thing to come out of this set is the Revealer and Anti- Burial.
Special cases:
RoA - TGT was horrific but the other tins made several strategies usable (Prophets and Gold), all in all one card shouldn't condemn a whole set
Di - On the fence about this one, it destroyed my favorite offense (Green) and introduced Thad TeH Hax0rZ but It has the lowest fluff card count of any set
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Fav: TeXP - This set gets the distinction of being the only set to not include game breaking cards while still being useful
Looks like someone has All State.
Least Fav: Angel Wars - Crappy art, crappy abilities, crappy URs. The only good thing to come out of this set is the Revealer and Anti- Burial.
Clearly the movement is dying off, if one of the most loyal members of the SQF fails to acknowledge Angel Wars' contribution of Que to the world.
Special cases:
RoA - TGT was horrific but the other tins made several strategies usable (Prophets and Gold), all in all one card shouldn't condemn a whole set
I'd probably agree with this.
Di - On the fence about this one, it destroyed my favorite offense (Green) and introduced Thad TeH Hax0rZ but It has the lowest fluff card count of any set
I wouldn't say Disciples destroyed Green, it just changed it. Sure Nazareth took a lot of Green's teeth away, but Disciples did give Green the second most powerful Hero in the set.
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but Disciples did give Green the second most powerful Hero in the set.
And who might that be?
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Thad, via Gold Shield.
I think he means Simeon.
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I think he means Daniel
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I think he means Daniel
He said it was a card from DI. And actualy that's a posibility considering my brother got one out of a DI pack :laugh:.
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Best: Prophets (also my favorite set)
Most balanced set by far and outside of one or two cards almost all of the cards are still usable and all of the cards are really fun!
Unfortunately I believe him... He beat me in sealed at Nats in the last round with three prophets packs... I had a Nero and a 3-liner... and an undefeated record.
Best Set: Disciples
Worst Set: RoA (TGT enough said)
And yet you still pulled off second place.
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You got to block?! :o
Yes.
-C_S
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Best Set: Kings, for it's timeframe. Followed up Warrior's and did not disappoint. Warrior's saved the game of Redemption, the only reason I did not choose Warrior's is because btn dominated for years.
Worst set: I don't include Limited, UL, or Prophets. So worst set: Patriarchs, it did introduce itb and remove, gave us ANB, but it had a lot of fluff and a lot of wasted UR's/rares. Some people open a Patriarch's pack and they are not even sure what the rare is in the pack.
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I agree to a certain extent with Pats except for the fact some of the fluff in that set is rather good while others like that crimson capture I cant remember the name of... are just pure junk. I mean Paladin is some pretty good fluff imo and most of the Rares are not wasted they are just not needed to the extent now vs when they were printed.
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Apostles had WAY more fluff than Pats. Pats is the set that introduced good common/uncommon cards. Yeah, there were some fluffy rares, but not near as bad as Apostles.
Kings was hardly better than Pats, and that's only because every card had a special ability. Most of those weren't useful.
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I think Kings has aged differently then Pats or Apostles. While Pats and Apostles both are all gradually getting reprinted or have cards that just stink and wont be used period. Compared to Kings which was a very fluffy set at first but while more and more WA Class characters and weapons ect. get printed cards like Tart Attack get more and more useful.
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IMO, Kings is getting more fluffy, wheras Apostles and below are getting less. Good Samaritan and Tartarus are somewhat useful now. BtNB is the only offense that is still around that Kings introduced. Royalty is basically dead. A few cards here and there for the defense, but I seldom use a Kings card in my offense.
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IMO, Kings is getting more fluffy, wheras Apostles and below are getting less. Good Samaritan and Tartarus are somewhat useful now. BtNB is the only offense that is still around that Kings introduced. Royalty is basically dead. A few cards here and there for the defense, but I seldom use a Kings card in my offense.
The problem I typically have with Kings is that the Warriors versions of some of the most used cards are better IMO.
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Still, that was a good point with Warrior class. Army of the Lord is useless if you're playing Warriors.
On a side note, am I the only one who's constantly stopping to untangle the two in my mind?
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Apostles had WAY more fluff than Pats. Pats is the set that introduced good common/uncommon cards. Yeah, there were some fluffy rares, but not near as bad as Apostles
But Apostles had some great UR's. Some really great UR's.
I don't know why everyone is knocking on TGT, yeah it was annoying but it does not make the whole set bad. It dominated for a year or two, as compared to btn, or cbn decks, they dominated a whole lot longer than TGT.
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The problem is the rest of the set was very mediocre compared to TGT. I like Apostles except everything but the UR's is Fluff.
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RoA had some good stuff. Look at the prophets stuff.
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Prophets got most of their stuff from FooF.
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Two Bears, Obadiah's caves, Micah.
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I would argue that Warriors was both the best and worst set.
Best because it saved redemption as a whole
Worst because it made by the numbers ridiculous (which led to other brokenness later) and it introduced Silver as an angel brigade, I think adding new brigades (on top of the original 6 good and 6 evil) has been bad for redemption as a whole.
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Well, it's not like silver's any good now...
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I would argue that Warriors was both the best and worst set.
Best because it saved redemption as a whole
Worst because it made by the numbers ridiculous (which led to other brokenness later) and it introduced Silver as an angel brigade, I think adding new brigades (on top of the original 6 good and 6 evil) has been bad for redemption as a whole.
The addition of angels/silver is what likely saved it. At least, the angels and their art is what attracted me to the game.
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Drat! If it weren't for shiny things, I might win at some of our tournaments.
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I like angels, just not silver as a brigade. I think angels should have been mixed into other brigades rather than given their own brigade
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Best=disciples-No fluff.
least fav=unlimited. Reprinting the same exact vanilla cards except for a handful? That is the fluffiest set. There was plenty of limited to go around when unlimited was released.
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I like angels, just not silver as a brigade. I think angels should have been mixed into other brigades rather than given their own brigade
yeah. just like Warrior in Training*
*who is should be an angel but he isn't because he is the blue guy in the back of the church
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I must hold Warriors being the best, and worst set. Adding abilities to most cards, many great cards, and FBTN, which negated the abilities on the other cards and still is a very strong strategy.
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*who is should be an angel but he isn't because he is the blue guy with wings growing out of his back in the back of the church
Fixed for ya.
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Prophets has nothing good at all
Great Image?
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Prophets nearly broke T2. False Peace was rampant for awhile. Sin in the Camp decks used Confusion to pick off all of the Good Dominants. Highway and Stillness were in combo decks. And there are a few decent cards like Great Image, Dungeon of Malchiah, Stocks, and Snare. At least, I think Stocks and Snare are Prophets...maybe not.
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Stocks and Snare are blue packs lol
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angel wars is def the worst, i like kings the best.
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whats wrong with that?