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« on: April 15, 2012, 09:44:44 PM »
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What is the best Redemption card in your opinion?
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Re: Best card
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2012, 09:46:48 PM »
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Son of God or ANB.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2012, 09:50:19 PM »
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Son of God is really the obvious choice here, along with a handful of other dominants. I'd probably say Son of God, New Jerusalem, then Falling Away.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2012, 09:51:01 PM »
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Son of God is really the obvious choice here, along with a handful of other dominants. I'd probably say Son of God, New Jerusalem, then Falling Away.

They're called 'dominants' for a reason, of course ;)

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Re: Best card
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2012, 09:55:44 PM »
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Son of God, Mayhem, and AoC promo.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2012, 09:57:40 PM »
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see I don't think SOG is the best card in the game. Sure it's a free lost soul, but it's ONE free lost soul. TGT on the other hand can be up to 5.

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 10:00:39 PM »
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see I don't think SOG is the best card in the game. Sure it's a free lost soul, but it's ONE free lost soul. TGT on the other hand can be up to 5.

Son of God has one counter in the game, which nobody uses. TGT has at least a dozen, at least one or two of which see some use. Plus, obviously, TGT is countered by small-to-medium defenses. TGT is good, probably in the top 10 best cards, but I definitely don't think think it's the best.

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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 10:03:41 PM »
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Son of God has one counter in the game, which nobody uses. TGT has at least a dozen, at least one or two of which see some use. Plus, obviously, TGT is countered by small-to-medium defenses. TGT is good, probably in the top 10 best cards, but I definitely don't think think it's the best.

Actually now that you cant SoG your own souls, it has a few more. NT and */4 come to mind.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 10:04:25 PM »
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Son of God, Mayhem before the errata, and AoC promo.
FTFY.

see I don't think SOG is the best card in the game. Sure it's a free lost soul, but it's ONE free lost soul. TGT on the other hand can be up to 5.
However, TGT only works with a few heroes, and when your opponent has a redeemed LS, and if your opponent doesn't have two ECs of the same brigade. SoG works if there's an LS out* and no Altar of Ahaz. Plus, it can be paired with NJ.

*Excluding */4 & the NT Only.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 10:05:47 PM »
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Son of God has one counter in the game, which nobody uses. TGT has at least a dozen, at least one or two of which see some use. Plus, obviously, TGT is countered by small-to-medium defenses. TGT is good, probably in the top 10 best cards, but I definitely don't think think it's the best.

Actually now that you cant SoG your own souls, it has a few more. NT and */4 come to mind.

Those aren't really hard counters though, at least not in the manner I meant. That's a good point though.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2012, 10:05:59 PM »
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In all seriousness I don't believe this game has a "Best" card. If it did it would be TGT.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2012, 10:10:33 PM »
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AOTL hands down.

It is now a SoG... but also discards their EC.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2012, 10:17:56 PM »
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AOTL hands down.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2012, 10:33:20 PM »
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In all seriousness I don't believe this game has a "Best" card. If it did it would be TGT.
The fact my pic was edited out proves that modding is overdone. It was a JOKE let it stand geez.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2012, 10:43:56 PM »
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The fact my pic was edited out proves that modding is overdone. It was a JOKE let it stand geez.

No, the fact that you posted it knowing that it would cause a problem shows that it was not a joke, but meant to cause a problem.  People need to stop with this.  The poking of the bear just to poke the bear is what is overdone.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 10:48:19 PM »
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The fact my pic was edited out proves that modding is overdone. It was a JOKE let it stand geez.

No, the fact that you posted it knowing that it would cause a problem shows that it was not a joke, but meant to cause a problem.  People need to stop with this.  The poking of the bear just to poke the bear is what is overdone.
The only reason it causes a problem is because people let it get up in their craw for no reason. I thought it was funny and I posted it. People need to back off on the goats causing issues crap.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 10:57:37 PM »
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Purposefully posting a picture of a goat when you know that is not allowed.
It was a JOKE let it stand geez.
Taking the Lord's name in vain (through euphemism)
people let it get up in their craw for no reason. I thought it was funny and I posted it. People need to back off on the goats causing issues crap.
Actually some reasons have already been given, and there is another reason that hasn't been given, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.
Apparently other people didn't, judging from the -2 vote count (and I didn't vote).
Although that word isn't a cuss word, it is often considered crude language.  Not a big deal, so I'll leave it there.

Here in your last 3 posts, you have exhibited very negative posting behavior.  And yet you are upset at me.  Perhaps you should look at the log in your own eye before going after my splinter.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 11:04:34 PM »
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Picture removed.
Purposefully posting a picture of a goat when you know that is not allowed.
It was a JOKE let it stand geez.
Taking the Lord's name in vain (through euphemism)
people let it get up in their craw for no reason. I thought it was funny and I posted it. People need to back off on the goats causing issues crap.
Actually some reasons have already been given, and there is another reason that hasn't been given, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.
Apparently other people didn't, judging from the -2 vote count (and I didn't vote).
Although that word isn't a cuss word, it is often considered crude language.  Not a big deal, so I'll leave it there.

Here in your last 3 posts, you have exhibited very negative posting behavior.  And yet you are upset at me.  Perhaps you should look at the log in your own eye before going after my splinter.
Geez is not taking the LORD's name in vain that's your conviction not mine don't force your belief upon me or this forum please. I'm going increasingly upset with all the uptightness and unless this place loosens up I'm going to keep on trying to loosen it up LIKE I JUST TRYED TO DO.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2012, 11:13:01 PM »
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Geez is not taking the LORD's name in vain that's your conviction not mine don't force your belief upon me or this forum please.

That's actually incorrect.  It is a form of a minced oath (you can look it up yourself, I'm not going to link it because it contains actual language) that changes a curse or oath or otherwise un-sayable word to something "acceptable" while meaning the same thing.

Also, if something is offensive to a brother in Christ, the reaction is not "don't force that on me!", it is to be supportive.  Please see 1 Corinthians 10 for a discussion on this.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2012, 11:18:25 PM »
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Geez is not taking the LORD's name in vain
Actually it is.  The dictionary will tell you that "Geez" is simply a euphemism for "Jesus".  Or as the Urban Dictionary puts it:
"Geez-Short for Jesus. Used by Christians who don't want to "use the Lord's name in vain" even though it's just as bad."

that's your conviction not mine don't force your belief upon me or this forum please.
I am not forcing you (or this forum) to believe anything.  In fact, I'm not even preventing you from using the word "geez".  I left it in your post.  I'm just letting you know that I'm offended by that.  And yet, I'm still talking to you in a rational and respectful manner.  Can you say the same?

I'm going increasingly upset with all the uptightness and unless this place loosens up I'm going to keep on trying to loosen it up LIKE I JUST TRYED TO DO.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2012, 11:29:50 PM »
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I kind of like how you separated them out.  I think it's foolish to try to compare some categories myself, even if I understand the argument for certain cards over SoG.

I would disagree with you especially on Site, as I think that Hormah is by far the best site.  It fits in any deck (that uses humans) and lets you bottom-deck endlessly (including a half-rescued 2/3-liner, my favorite :)).

I'd probably have a couple of other tops, but those at least I can all agree are near the top (except site ;)).

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Re: Best card
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2012, 11:32:48 PM »
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Back on topic; my bests:

Ls: FbtN - My opinion of best non-dom card. Fits into any deck, basically gives all your Heroes access to all LS, stops Hopper. Almost essential now.
Dom: SoG
Fort: TGT
Art: CoF
Site: Golgotha
Hero: AutO
EC: Manny
GE: AoC(p)
EE: Haman's Plot

Off topic:
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SOG followed by NJ and Mayhem.  Its a toss up between NJ and Mayhem for me.  Mayhem can still change and win game without the first round play.

Nice idea with the categories. 

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LS: FBTN
Dom: SOG
Good Fort: TGT
Art: SWJ (soul gen and absolute beast against uniques in t2)
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EC: ASA (T2)
Site: Golgotha (recursion)
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2012, 11:34:39 PM »
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Purposefully posting a picture of a goat when you know that is not allowed.

I have to say, while he posted it as a joke, it WAS on topic. He posted a picture of a Redemption card, in a topic about Redemption cards If someone really liked Abom decks, it very well may be their favorite card.

Further more, are we never allowed to post images of Redemption cards with goats on them, even if it is appropriate for the current discussion? (this is a serious question)

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Re: Best card
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 11:37:44 PM »
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I have to say, while he posted it as a joke, it WAS on topic. He posted a picture of a Redemption card, in a topic about Redemption cards If someone really liked Abom decks, it very well may be their favorite card.

That wasn't his point though.  He specifically said afterwards "In all seriousness..."  He knew what it was and what would happen, not sure the problem here  :dunno:


But back on topic, I understand this alleged 'recursion' on Golgotha (never actually seen it ;)), but I have seen A LOT more use out of Hormah.  It is downright annoying, and I measure success of a card generally in how annoyed my opponent is when I use it :D

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Re: Best card
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 11:38:57 PM »
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Re: Best card
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2012, 11:43:51 PM »
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A. Son of God
B. The Garden Tomb

And once again, I think I'll have to go with A 'n' B.  ;)
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2012, 11:46:40 PM »
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A. Son of God
B. The Garden Tomb

And once again, I think I'll have to go with A 'n' B.  ;)

On AnB, if I go with my 'annoyance quotient' method for determining how good a card is, that's the best unfortunately  >:(

You haven't been AnB'd till you've been AnB'd in a 6-6 T2 game after time-out has been declared.  So I guess it is the best :P

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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2012, 11:47:17 PM »
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I have to say, while he posted it as a joke, it WAS on topic. He posted a picture of a Redemption card, in a topic about Redemption cards If someone really liked Abom decks, it very well may be their favorite card.
In context, it wasn't on topic.

Further more, are we never allowed to post images of Redemption cards with goats on them, even if it is appropriate for the current discussion? (this is a serious question)
As I've said all along, one of the things that I look at is the current climate of the overall forum.  For the near future, posting goat pictures (even in Redemption cards) is going to be viewed in the context of the recent brouhaha, and therefore will be interpreted as defiant behavior.  It is quite possible though that after all this has died down, that it will be possible to post a goat picture without that baggage.  That's assuming that people actually do let this die down though :)

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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2012, 11:48:44 PM »
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(watch me stay on topic and discuss this point in one post)

I have to say, while he posted it as a joke, it WAS on topic. He posted a picture of a Redemption card, in a topic about Redemption cards If someone really liked Abom decks, it very well may be their favorite card.

That wasn't his point though.  He specifically said afterwards "In all seriousness..."  He knew what it was and what would happen, not sure the problem here  :dunno:

If I said:



In all seriousness, SoG is probably the best IMO.


Nobody would get on my case for making a joke. Why was it so bad for him to make a similar joke?

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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2012, 12:22:36 AM »
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Nobody would get on my case for making a joke. Why was it so bad for him to make a similar joke?
We've been through this already.  Goat pictures are interpreted differently than other joke pictures due to context.  Buckler is an inside joke here on the forum without any negative connotations.  The same isn't true for Goat with a Horn.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2012, 11:38:38 AM »
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What inside joke could you gather from a 0/2 enhancement with a picture of what appears to be a shield of some sort?
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2012, 11:48:20 AM »
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What inside joke could you gather from a 0/2 enhancement with a picture of what appears to be a shield of some sort?

Are you new or just trying to continue the joke?

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« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2012, 12:38:43 PM »
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I am but a jr. Member to be sure and have no idea what's going on.
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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2012, 12:47:26 PM »
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Buckler is also a forum meme. It's so useless that it has been joked about as being the best card in the game.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2012, 12:48:41 PM »
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Goats are an inside joke here on the forum without any negative connotations except the ones foisted upon them by me.
FTFY
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2012, 01:22:54 PM »
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Buckler is also a forum meme. It's so useless that it has been joked about as being the best card in the game.

Thank you. By the way I think that Authority of Christ is the best card in the game. If you have more redeemed souls than your opponent then, if you are lucky enough for your opponent not to draw evil characters, you could win just by going back and forth rescuing.
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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2012, 02:29:51 PM »
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I have to say, while he posted it as a joke, it WAS on topic. He posted a picture of a Redemption card, in a topic about Redemption cards If someone really liked Abom decks, it very well may be their favorite card.

That wasn't his point though.  He specifically said afterwards "In all seriousness..."  He knew what it was and what would happen, not sure the problem here  :dunno:


But back on topic, I understand this alleged 'recursion' on Golgotha (never actually seen it ;)), but I have seen A LOT more use out of Hormah.  It is downright annoying, and I measure success of a card generally in how annoyed my opponent is when I use it :D

Golgotha recursion was common in T2 decks last year.  It was an easy splash into the three best offenses last year (Disciples, Garden Girls, and Job).  I'd think some would try and pull it off this year with Genesis (outside of CWD which really isn't that difficult to get around if you keep it in mind).  Also its easy to throw in with the best defense in the game for recursion as well (Golgotha + DoU).  Though I guess I haven't seen it as much this season.  I agree with you as far as  T1 though.  Hormah > Golgotha.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2012, 08:52:16 AM »
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see I don't think SOG is the best card in the game. Sure it's a free lost soul, but it's ONE free lost soul. TGT on the other hand can be up to 5.

Son of God has one counter in the game, which nobody uses. TGT has at least a dozen, at least one or two of which see some use. Plus, obviously, TGT is countered by small-to-medium defenses. TGT is good, probably in the top 10 best cards, but I definitely don't think think it's the best.

Technically, Son of God has 2 counters in the game (Altar of Ahaz and Judas' Plot).  Son of God is still the best card in the game though.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2012, 09:11:35 AM »
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see I don't think SOG is the best card in the game. Sure it's a free lost soul, but it's ONE free lost soul. TGT on the other hand can be up to 5.

Son of God has one counter in the game, which nobody uses. TGT has at least a dozen, at least one or two of which see some use. Plus, obviously, TGT is countered by small-to-medium defenses. TGT is good, probably in the top 10 best cards, but I definitely don't think think it's the best.

Also, I consider Falling Away as a sort of counter for Son of God.

Technically, Son of God has 2 counters in the game (Altar of Ahaz and Judas' Plot).  Son of God is still the best card in the game though.
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Re: Best card
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2012, 02:08:08 PM »
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Technically, Son of God has 2 counters in the game (Altar of Ahaz and Judas' Plot).  Son of God is still the best card in the game though.

Don't forget Arrest in Gethsemane. Bubbleboy inspired my inclusion of that in T2 multiplayer, and it can be beastly. He played it after not drawing his SoG on his final turn, and it won me the game (and NC Regionals), since it was the last round and I was next, and with Lampstand up, I was impossible to dom block.

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Re: Best card
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2012, 02:26:25 PM »
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LS: Site Guard
Site: Nazzy
Fort: TGT
Dom: SoG
Art: SWJ
EC: SWS
Hero: Watchful Servant
GE: ANB
EE: Abomination of Desolation

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