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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Topic started by: lightningninja on September 01, 2009, 08:58:51 PM
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Tournament of Champions.
No... it's not what you think. We don't take individual players who won nationals... we take regions. It would go something like this:
1. Two players of each event from each region
2. Play online
3. Decide what region is the best!
It'd be pretty simple... a month of online tournament. We take scores from natz and RNRS to see what players are the top of each region. We'd obviously have Gabe from Iowa, Bryon from CA, Justin Alstad from Minnesota, etc. I think it could be really cool. The best of the best... but you don't need to go to nationals to qualify.
Anyone else think this would be a fun idea to try? Even with very few prizes the first time?
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...this is what nationals is for?
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Uhm... nationals is for everyone and anyone. This is just for the best. We could make it take a lot less time and still find the best players. Did Justin Alstad make it this nationals? No. Is he still a great player? Yes. Bryon couldn't play cause he was hosting nationals.
The point is you don't have to take a plane to compete.
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Pick two of the best playrs out of these three: Justin, Gabe, Maly.
NC got screwed.
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1. Two players of each event from each region
3. Decide what region is the best!
I think this is where the breakdown happens. If you are looking for the best player, then this idea could work. But you can't judge the strength of a region based on only 2 players. I think you should really take the top 4 players from each Region it would be a lot better. With 8 regions, that would make 32 players.
Also if you are judging regions, the tournament would have to be set up so that all 4 players from one region would play all 4 players from another region. Then have the regions move as a group to the next round of play.
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Uhm... nationals is for everyone and anyone. This is just for the best. We could make it take a lot less time and still find the best players. Did Justin Alstad make it this nationals? No. Is he still a great player? Yes. Bryon couldn't play cause he was hosting nationals.
The point is you don't have to take a plane to compete.
do you think everybody that plays visits this forum? no. does that mean there are still great players out there? yes. same thing as nationals practically.
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I think I would rather see a tournament of the Regional judges. Since they can't play anyways, it'll be nice to have them duke it out in their own tournament :)
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Who would judge that?
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Who would judge that?
I think that all major tournaments should be judged by random little kids. Especially if it is said RLK's first tournament.
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Hm... good input professor. I like that. What about 3 people... so a 24 man tournament? I think that would be a pretty good representation.
No, not everyone who is great is on here... but I think most people are. If there is a top 3 region player who isn't on here, I'm sure he'd be willing to get an account for a regional championship.
I just think it'd be really cool to do this... a lot of fun, where every game you don't have more than a 50% chance of winning, because everyone is as good as you.
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well the games should be best 2 out of 3, X-round swiss style, top 8 cut after that.
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Hey,
No, not everyone who is great is on here... but I think most people are. If there is a top 3 region player who isn't on here, I'm sure he'd be willing to get an account for a regional championship.
You'd be surprised. There have been a lot of top players over the years that don't/didn't play online. If this event started today, I wouldn't participate.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Who says you'd be one of the competitors? ;) ;D ;D ;D
jkjkjk
Really? You wouldn't want to participate?
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Sam Nurge is proof this idea won't accurately represent regions.
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dude i like the idea! and even if there are a few sticklers who don't want to play there are a lot of great players out there who could fill in and not miss much of a beat. too bad we can't get rts to record a play-by-play... or live video audience lol. i'd watch most of the tournament.
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If this event started today, I wouldn't participate.
I'm curious what brings you to that stance Tim. Mind sharing why?
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Hey,
If this event started today, I wouldn't participate.
I'm curious what brings you to that stance Tim. Mind sharing why?
I have not yet acquired any TeP cards. I am waiting for the main shipment so that I can get a larger quantity of them with Redemption Cash. When I build decks I find having the physical card in front of me to be very helpful in my decision making. So I've chosen thus far not to try to build any new decks until the main shipment of TeP arrives. So one of the reasons I wouldn't play is that I don't have a deck built that I would want to play with. This is probably the main reason, I anticipate joining ROOT in a couple months when I have TeP and new decks to test, so at that point I would have no reason not to participate in a Tournament of Champions as well.
But I do not enjoy playing the game as much as I used to. And I have played most of the great Redemption players in my years, so the opportunity to play really good players isn't that much of a motivating factor to me. I would much rather go to a local tournament, have no competition, but cool Redemption people to hang out with all day than spend the day online playing the best of the best players in the country.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Pick two of the best playrs out of these three: Justin, Gabe, Maly.
NC got screwed.
And that list is too short. You'd also have to include Kevin Shride, Chris Bany, Gil Kimmons, and Nate Voigt. Even then that's cutting the list pretty short of people that would do an excellent job representing the NC region.
The more I think about it, I would have a tough time picking just 2 people from just about any region in which I'm familiar with very many players.
...too bad we can't get rts to record a play-by-play... or live video audience...
I heard that one or both of those features might be part of "Redemption Live".
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I'm with Tim on this.
For some reason I am not able to focus while playing online, which causes me to make decisions that I otherwise would not have made in a "real" game of Redemption. I've only ever played one person online, and I still play him occasionally because he knows how distracted I am while playing online. :P
I haven't gotten to play many people competitively in categories (mostly because I tend to do better at Sealed and Booster). But those who I play (and usually lose to) in such as Type-2 2player, I couldn't even imagine playing them online, their decks and strategies are upper tier and it requires me to pay close attention.
I used to be a competitive Type-1 2player and have gotten the chance to play several great players (Tim Maly, Ben Arp, JDS, Justin Alstad, etc) but I haven't gotten the chance to play many west coast players or the oh-so-famous Gabe Isbell. ;)
Now all I have to say is: Long live Sealed Deck and Booster Draft!!
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@Tim, it wouldn't have to be more than 1 person against 1 person a day. You play a best out of three set and then you're good. You wait till the next day, or until both players can play each day.
@Gabe... that's my main concern... there's a lot of great players from each region. However... I think that if you only played closed events, you'd have 3 different events (assuming this would take place before redemption live! and we couldn't play multi or teams), so you can choose a total of 6 people from each region. Each set of people represent a different event.