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Title: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 03, 2010, 02:13:46 AM
Mercury
2/2 Orange/Grey Evil Character
-Demon, Roman-
"You may exchange this card with a Grey or Orange card in your Deck or Discard Pile to Discard a card from opponent's hand."
Acts 14:12

Jupiter
12/5 Orange/Grey Evil Character
-Demon, Roman-
"If a Roman Emperor is in play, you may Negate and Discard a Good Fortress with a Protect ability. Prevent the Special Ability on the first Enhancement played this battle."
Acts 14:12

The Priest of Jupiter
3/4 Grey Evil Character
-Roman, Priest-
"May band with a Roman Demon to place a Grey Enhancement in Discard Pile beneath deck. If all of your opponent's Heroes are Apostles, add to hand instead."
Acts 14:13

Magistrates
4/4 Grey Evil Character
-Roman, Generic-
"You may Discard this card to return an N.T. Hero in battle to territory with abilities decreased 3/3. Opponent may Discard two cards from hand to present a new Hero."
Acts 16:20

Fear of Rome
0/0 Grey Evil Enhancement, TC
"Place on your Roman Emperor: Protected from opponent's cards in territory. Cannot be Ignored. You may Discard this card during battle to play an Enhancement."
John 11:48

Roman Law
0/0 Grey Evil Enhancement, TC
"Place on your Roman: all cards are protected from Characters and Enhancements unless a Hero and Evil Character are in battle."
Acts 25:16

Colosseum Lions
10/8 Grey Evil Character
-Animal, Generic-
"Negate all Special Abilities on N.T. Heroes and Enhancements used by them. First Strike."
Hebrews 11:37

Colosseum
Evil Fortress
-Holds a Hero and an Animal-
"Protect all cards except contents from contents. Instead of attacking during your battle phase, you may Interrupt Wall of Protection and force an N.T. Hero and an Animal to fight here. Survivors return to territory."
Hebrews 11:37
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: hi123 on September 03, 2010, 07:53:01 AM
Mercury
2/2 Orange/Grey Evil Character
-Demon, Roman-
"You may exchange this card with a Grey or Orange card in your Deck or Discard Pile to Discard a card from opponent's hand."
Acts 14:12

Jupiter
12/5 Orange/Grey Evil Character
-Demon, Roman-
"If a Roman Emperor is in play, you may Negate and Discard a Good Fortress with a Protect ability. Prevent the Special Ability on the first Enhancement played this battle."
Acts 14:12

The Priest of Jupiter
3/4 Grey Evil Character
-Roman, Priest-
"May band with a Roman Demon to place a Grey Enhancement in Discard Pile beneath deck. If all of your opponent's Heroes are Apostles, add to hand instead."
Acts 14:13

Magistrates
4/4 Grey Evil Character
-Roman, Generic-
"You may Discard this card to return an N.T. Hero in battle to territory with abilities decreased 3/3. Opponent may Discard two cards from hand to present a new Hero."
Acts 16:20

Fear of Rome
0/0 Grey Evil Enhancement, TC
"Place on your Roman Emperor: Protected from opponent's cards in territory. Cannot be Ignored. You may Discard this card during battle to play an Enhancement."
John 11:48

Roman Law
0/0 Grey Evil Enhancement, TC
"Place on your Roman: all cards are protected from Characters and Enhancements unless a Hero and Evil Character are in battle."
Acts 25:16

Colosseum Lions
10/8 Grey Evil Character
-Animal, Generic-
"Negate all Special Abilities on N.T. Heroes and Enhancements used by them. First Strike."
Hebrews 11:37

Colosseum
Evil Fortress
-Holds a Hero and an Animal-
"Protect all cards except contents from contents. Instead of attacking during your battle phase, you may Interrupt Wall of Protection and force an N.T. Hero and an Animal to fight here. Survivors return to territory."
Hebrews 11:37
Very well thought out... But, on Jupiter, make the 12 lower, and the 5 higher. Like araound an 8/8? ~ Just a thought.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Alex_Olijar on September 03, 2010, 10:44:29 AM
8/8? haha. Way to be boring.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: stefferweffer on September 03, 2010, 10:57:47 AM
Perhaps have Jupiter's numbers somehow tied to the zodiac signs or the planets?  But having a big number like 12 seems appropriate for Jupiter (Zeus), as he is allegedly the leader of the (false) roman gods.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: TheJaylor on September 03, 2010, 10:58:30 AM
just make it 4/11.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on September 03, 2010, 02:42:13 PM
I think Jupiter should just negate. Not negate/Discard.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Alex_Olijar on September 03, 2010, 04:07:01 PM
After we print Jupiter, we could print the same verse, card, and ability(slightly changing Roman Emperor to Greek King) for Zeus, just change him to black/orange, remove the Roman identifier, and add a Greek identifier. Irony? I think so.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Daniel TS RED on September 03, 2010, 04:17:35 PM
Colosseum is awesome.  How do the demons get the Roman identifier though.  Is that just showing they're Roman false gods, or actually real Romans as far as the game rules go?

Daniel

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 03, 2010, 04:19:41 PM
Romans don't really need a boost. Why not focus on the cool stuff, like Syrians and Tabernacle priests? ;D
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 03, 2010, 11:10:21 PM
I disagree about Romans not needing a boost. Right now, they just lose if they don't have Namaan's Ride. But I have done Tabernacle Priests already and am going to do Syrians, along with a lot of other themes.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Deck Metrics on May 04, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Mercury
2/2 Orange/Grey Evil Character
-Demon, Roman-
"You may exchange this card with a Grey or Orange card in your Deck or Discard Pile to Discard a card from opponent's hand."
Acts 14:12

Jupiter
12/5 Orange/Grey Evil Character
-Demon, Roman-
"If a Roman Emperor is in play, you may Negate and Discard a Good Fortress with a Protect ability. Prevent the Special Ability on the first Enhancement played this battle."
Acts 14:12

The Priest of Jupiter
3/4 Grey Evil Character
-Roman, Priest-
"May band with a Roman Demon to place a Grey Enhancement in Discard Pile beneath deck. If all of your opponent's Heroes are Apostles, add to hand instead."
Acts 14:13

Magistrates
4/4 Grey Evil Character
-Roman, Generic-
"You may Discard this card to return an N.T. Hero in battle to territory with abilities decreased 3/3. Opponent may Discard two cards from hand to present a new Hero."
Acts 16:20

Fear of Rome
0/0 Grey Evil Enhancement, TC
"Place on your Roman Emperor: Protected from opponent's cards in territory. Cannot be Ignored. You may Discard this card during battle to play an Enhancement."
John 11:48

Roman Law
0/0 Grey Evil Enhancement, TC
"Place on your Roman: all cards are protected from Characters and Enhancements unless a Hero and Evil Character are in battle."
Acts 25:16

Colosseum Lions
10/8 Grey Evil Character
-Animal, Generic-
"Negate all Special Abilities on N.T. Heroes and Enhancements used by them. First Strike."
Hebrews 11:37

Colosseum
Evil Fortress
-Holds a Hero and an Animal-
"Protect all cards except contents from contents. Instead of attacking during your battle phase, you may Interrupt Wall of Protection and force an N.T. Hero and an Animal to fight here. Survivors return to territory."
Hebrews 11:37

Jupiter should be a Greek/Roman
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 04, 2011, 01:32:25 PM
The Greek version would be Zeus.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: browarod on May 04, 2011, 01:37:32 PM
Mercury can exchange for a "card"? So if he blocks alone and swaps for an enhancement, you effectively shoot yourself in the foot for that block?
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 04, 2011, 01:44:50 PM
That's correct, unless he was banded into battle. Fallen Angel->Mercury->Deafening Spirit is one possible play.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Deck Metrics on May 04, 2011, 01:49:32 PM
Menander also, one who translated the Tyrian archives out of the dialect of the Phoenicians into the Greek language, makes mention of these two kings, where he says thus: "When Abibalus was dead,. his son Hiram received the kingdom from him, who, when he had lived fifty-three years, reigned thirty-four. He raised a bank in the large place, and dedicated the golden pillar which is in Jupiter's temple.

Josephus
Antiquities of the Jews 8.5.3 v.144-145

Evil Fortress

Zeus's (Jupiter's) Temple
Identifier: Pagan Temple; may hold one artifact depicting an idol.

During your upkeep you may return a black Daniel reference enhancement from your discard pile to an opponent's territory.  If you draw a card from a special ability controlled by an opponent, that player must draw a card.  Greek & Roman evil characters cannot be ignored or shuffled into draw pile by an opponent.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Deck Metrics on May 04, 2011, 01:50:56 PM
The Greek version would be Zeus.

its the same pagan god, just different names.  Just make one card affect both.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Deck Metrics on May 04, 2011, 02:05:45 PM
Menander also, one who translated the Tyrian archives out of the dialect of the Phoenicians into the Greek language, makes mention of these two kings, where he says thus: "When Abibalus was dead,. his son Hiram received the kingdom from him, who, when he had lived fifty-three years, reigned thirty-four. He raised a bank in the large place, and dedicated the golden pillar which is in Jupiter's temple.

Josephus
Antiquities of the Jews 8.5.3 v.144-145

Evil Fortress

Zeus's (Jupiter's) Temple
Identifier: Pagan Temple; may hold one artifact depicting an idol.

During your upkeep you may return a black Daniel reference enhancement from your discard pile to an opponent's territory.  If you draw a card from a special ability controlled by an opponent, that player must draw a card.  Greek & Roman evil characters cannot be ignored or shuffled into draw pile by an opponent.


another Josephus reference that can be used:

Now, that this may not depend on my bare word, I will produce for a witness Dius, one that is believed to have written the Phoenician History after an accurate manner. This Dius, therefore, writes thus, in his Histories of the Phoenicians: "Upon the death of Abibalus, his son Hirom took the kingdom. This king raised banks at the eastern parts of the city, and enlarged it; he also joined the temple of Jupiter Olympius, which stood before in an island by itself, to the city, by raising a causeway between them, and adorned that temple with donations of gold. He moreover went up to Libanus, and had timber cut down for the building of temples.

Flavius Josephus Against Apion
Book 1.18 v. 116-118
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: lightningninja on May 04, 2011, 02:53:32 PM
Protect all cards except contents from contents? I don't understand...
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: browarod on May 04, 2011, 02:58:54 PM
Protect all cards except contents from contents? I don't understand...
The only time it will have contents is when there is a battle happening inside it via its special ability, so when that battle is taking place the characters fighting can hurt each other/themselves but no other cards.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: lightningninja on May 04, 2011, 02:59:39 PM
That makes sense. Thanks.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: ChristianSoldier on May 04, 2011, 03:11:13 PM
The Greek version would be Zeus.

its the same pagan god, just different names.  Just make one card affect both.

That's not entirely accurate, they are similar, and many aspects of Jupiter were taken from Zeus, but they are different, I just can't remember how at the moment.  But the idea that the Romans just took the Greek gods and changed there names isn't true, they took the Greek gods and added them to their already existing gods to get something new.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: megamanlan on May 05, 2011, 12:43:57 AM
I like all of them!
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: JSB23 on May 05, 2011, 02:18:13 AM
Mocking Soldier
7/4 Gray WC
While this card is in play protect all Lost souls from rescue by dominants.
While this card is in battle, regardless of protection, protect all Lost souls from rescue by a Disciple.

Art - same
verse - same

Roman Captain
7/6 Gray WC
If this character is holding a weapon you may play the first enhancement.

Praetors
7/6 Gray WC
May band to an emperor to prevent the first enhancement  played this battle.

Roman soldier
3/3 Gray WC
May band to a Roman non-emperor.
If holding a weapon this character may not be converted or ignored.

Scutum
1/3 Gray WC
If bearer would be discarded, discard this card instead.

Pugio
1/0 Gray WC
You may discard this card to return bearer to territory.

Gladius
3/1 Gray WC
You may discard this card to discard a human in a territory.

 
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 05, 2011, 02:46:34 AM
Roman Captian had better be generic.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: megamanlan on May 08, 2011, 08:46:35 PM
He would be Generic Automatically.

Are Pugio and Gladius Weapon Class Enhancements? U have to define if there Characters or Weapons.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: CJSports on May 08, 2011, 08:57:40 PM
Mercury might be a little strong seeing as he can recur any demon but besides him I like them all.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: JSB23 on May 08, 2011, 09:30:03 PM
He would be Generic Automatically.

Are Pugio and Gladius Weapon Class Enhancements? You have to define if they're Characters or Weapons.
I can't think of any time a sword or dagger would be characters  :P
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: megamanlan on May 08, 2011, 09:55:55 PM
I didn't know that they were weapons. On here u need to define if a card is a Character or an Enhancement, along w/ it's numbers as well.
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 08, 2011, 10:10:17 PM
Gladius is Latin for Sword...
Title: Re: Theme Boost: Romans
Post by: JSB23 on May 09, 2011, 02:20:54 PM
Gladius is Latin for Sword...
Just as Pugio is the Latin name for a type of Dagger and Scutum is the word for shield :P
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