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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: drb1200 on September 13, 2012, 02:26:23 PM

Title: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 7)
Post by: drb1200 on September 13, 2012, 02:26:23 PM
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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: Lampy 2.0 on September 13, 2012, 03:37:03 PM
These look sick! You've done an amazing job with these cards!
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 13, 2012, 04:26:05 PM
Attending Angel is a male character. May wanna fix the art based on this.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: Bobbert on September 13, 2012, 04:53:33 PM
BTW, Divination is territory class.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: drb1200 on September 13, 2012, 05:09:03 PM
These look sick! You've done an amazing job with these cards!
Thanks dude!

Attending Angel is a male character. May wanna fix the art based on this.
What's wrong with a female version?

BTW, Divination is territory class.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 13, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
What's wrong with a female version?

Well, you didn't change any other aspects of the other cards, so I assumed you were making them exactly the same.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: Master KChief on September 13, 2012, 07:23:08 PM
Attending Angel looks way awesome though. I'd play it just for that fact alone.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: Gabe on September 13, 2012, 11:06:36 PM
These look really amazing. I hope you find time to make all 60.

I wonder if there's a way to integrate a place for artist credit into your design?
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: drb1200 on September 14, 2012, 09:31:38 AM
These look really amazing. I hope you find time to make all 60.

I wonder if there's a way to integrate a place for artist credit into your design?
Thanks! I tried a while ago to fit it under the scroll but that didn't work very well. I just updated my template with the artist credit at the bottom of the scroll.

Example:

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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 14, 2012, 09:48:34 AM
Another thing I've noticed:

Are you picking card art based on the title alone, or the scripture the card is based on? You said in the original thread that you wanted to make this feel more like a Biblical game, and I don't think Daniel 11:31 was talking about some weird mutant creature.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: drb1200 on September 14, 2012, 10:29:45 AM
Another thing I've noticed:

Are you picking card art based on the title alone, or the scripture the card is based on? You said in the original thread that you wanted to make this feel more like a Biblical game, and I don't think Daniel 11:31 was talking about some weird mutant creature.
I don't know what Daniel was describing, but I don't think he describes what it looks like. It is "abominable" and that is all we know. I think it's fine to take artistic license in the artwork, especially since it is hard to find a quality piece of art depicting a horrible statue standing in a hebrew temple. The only card above that really isn't scripturally accurate at all is Consuming Fire. The story is really about an angel who points his staff at a pile of food and it bursts into flames. As you know, THAT is pretty hard to find in a quality piece of art, so I chose a picture of angels dealing with fire. Obviously if Cactus adopted this template, they wouldn't choose the same art that I would, but that's what makes these fun cards.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 14, 2012, 10:42:17 AM
I don't know what Daniel was describing, but I don't think he describes what it looks like. It is "abominable" and that is all we know. I think it's fine to take artistic license in the artwork, especially since it is hard to find a quality piece of art depicting a horrible statue standing in a hebrew temple.

Fair enough, just be careful not to stay too far into fantasy imagery if you want to keep the Biblical idea of the game intact.

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The only card above that really isn't scripturally accurate at all is Consuming Fire. The story is really about an angel who points his staff at a pile of food and it bursts into flames. As you know, THAT is pretty hard to find in a quality piece of art, so I chose a picture of angels dealing with fire. Obviously if Cactus adopted this template, they wouldn't choose the same art that I would, but that's what makes these fun cards.

Yeah, some cards are nearly impossible to find good artwork for. Though regarding consuming fire, Cactus managed to find some decent artwork that depicted the event:

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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2)
Post by: drb1200 on September 14, 2012, 05:50:55 PM
Kings/Herods

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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2)
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 14, 2012, 06:04:53 PM
Two quick things

1) Salome's ability has a hyphenated word. While this isn't a problem, it's something you should try to avoid if you can. (Under Paragraph tools, uncheck hyphenate)
2) This may just be me, but there's a tiny black dot in your paper texture to the left of the third line of special abilities. The way it's positioned, my brain keeps seeing it as a period. That'd be easy to clone-stamp out.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2)
Post by: Master KChief on September 14, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
The cards look amazing. Especially love Herod's Treachery and Dungeon. Keep em coming!
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: drb1200 on September 14, 2012, 10:03:09 PM
Aaaaand Tier 3!

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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: TheJaylor on September 14, 2012, 10:46:51 PM
By the way, about half of the "Weapon-Class" symbol on Philistine Chariot and Horses is cut out by a horse head...
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: Lampy 2.0 on September 14, 2012, 11:16:45 PM
By the way, about half of the "Weapon-Class" symbol on Philistine Chariot and Horses is cut out by a horse head...

I think the overlap of the art over the symbol is cool!
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: Master KChief on September 14, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
I also like the overlap! Break the borders bro!
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: Arrthoa on September 14, 2012, 11:45:20 PM
You put the ability of Herod's Temple on Herod's Dungeon.

Herod’s Dungeon (TP)
Type: Site • Brigade: White • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: While blocking with a Herod while this Site is unoccupied, you may capture a male human Hero with strength 7/* or greater and place it here. When you block with Herodias, you may discard a captured Hero. • Identifiers: Israel • Verse: Matthew 14:3
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 15, 2012, 01:24:09 AM
Overcome by Philistines is not weapon class.... it'd be rather overpowered if it was.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: drb1200 on September 15, 2012, 10:33:25 AM
You put the ability of Herod's Temple on Herod's Dungeon.

Herod’s Dungeon (TP)
Type: Site • Brigade: White • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: While blocking with a Herod while this Site is unoccupied, you may capture a male human Hero with strength 7/* or greater and place it here. When you block with Herodias, you may discard a captured Hero. • Identifiers: Israel • Verse: Matthew 14:3


Overcome by Philistines is not weapon class.... it'd be rather overpowered if it was.

Fixed

EDIT: Philistines updated with Land Dispute
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: drb1200 on September 15, 2012, 11:00:36 AM
By the way, about half of the "Weapon-Class" symbol on Philistine Chariot and Horses is cut out by a horse head...

I think the overlap of the art over the symbol is cool!

I also like the overlap! Break the borders bro!

This calls for an alternate Attending Angel  :D

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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 15, 2012, 01:21:24 PM
Rock. Star.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: Asahel24601 on September 15, 2012, 09:33:56 PM
I like the cards. Anyway,the card is Overwhelmed by Philistines, not overcome.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 2 and 3)
Post by: lightningninja on September 16, 2012, 02:00:30 AM
I think if I had to pick my top 5 favorite Redemption art, they'd all be from your cards (except maybe King of Tyrus). How do you find such ridiculously awesome art? Sheesh
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (UPDATED WITH GOLD/BABYLONIAN)
Post by: drb1200 on October 07, 2012, 08:55:06 PM
FINALLY updated with Tier 4!!! I included an alternate art Astrologers for good measure.

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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (UPDATED WITH GOLD/BABYLONIANS)
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 07, 2012, 11:20:32 PM
Look great! (Other than painfully White Jesus in MTM)
Title: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (UPDATED WITH GOLD/BABYLONIANS)
Post by: jbeers285 on October 08, 2012, 12:40:36 AM
Wow your astrologers is my favorite redemption art period nothing else close (just my opinion though)
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (UPDATED WITH GOLD/BABYLONIANS)
Post by: drb1200 on October 08, 2012, 09:11:02 AM
Look great! (Other than painfully White Jesus in MTM)
Yeah I much prefer the Jesus on Woman at the Well

Wow your astrologers is my favorite redemption art period nothing else close (just my opinion though)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (UPDATED WITH GOLD/BABYLONIANS)
Post by: Lampy 2.0 on October 08, 2012, 10:12:00 AM
The new cards look great! Could you do the red and grey ones next?
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (UPDATED WITH RED/PHARISEES)
Post by: drb1200 on October 08, 2012, 11:29:29 AM
Sounds good  :)

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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (UPDATED WITH RED/PHARISEES)
Post by: Arrthoa on October 08, 2012, 12:50:44 PM
you forgot the Centurion At Capernum who was in ThxP. The cards look good though
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (UPDATED WITH RED/PHARISEES)
Post by: drb1200 on October 08, 2012, 01:08:49 PM
you forgot the Centurion At Capernum who was in ThxP. The cards look good though
Aaaaaaand added.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: drb1200 on October 08, 2012, 03:00:32 PM
AAAAAND Tier 6! Priests, Prophets and Demons

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Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: Master KChief on October 08, 2012, 03:24:23 PM
Great looking cards like always. I really like how you keep the border color the same as the brigade color (except for the demons, but the black looks way awesome on them). Makes the cards easily identifiable.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: dermo4christ on October 08, 2012, 05:46:23 PM
My favorite art on these new creations are, by far, the two demons.  Wicked sweet!
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: Arrthoa on October 08, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
Interesting how you chose the Espada 4 from a Japanese anime show for Wandering Spirit.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: Master KChief on October 08, 2012, 08:22:03 PM
Looks a lot like him but I don't think it is him.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: Arrthoa on October 08, 2012, 09:52:47 PM
Looks a lot like him but I don't think it is him.
Take a closer look towards the center. you can see the number 4 on the left pect and he has the black lines beneath the eyes. Plus the wings are from his release form
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: Master KChief on October 08, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
Haha yeah, wow, nice catch, totally didn't see the 4 there before. I'm guessing this is a fanmade picture then, as it looks quite a bit different than both of his release forms.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: lightningninja on October 09, 2012, 01:18:28 AM
You should make your own card game. These are beautiful.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: drb1200 on October 09, 2012, 10:02:11 AM
Great looking cards like always. I really like how you keep the border color the same as the brigade color (except for the demons, but the black looks way awesome on them). Makes the cards easily identifiable.
Thank you sir.

Interesting how you chose the Espada 4 from a Japanese anime show for Wandering Spirit.
Interesting. I didn't know that when selecting the art.

You should make your own card game. These are beautiful.
I am actually working on my own trading card game, but the problem is that I'm not very good at complex mechanics. I'm more of a simple card game kind of guy.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 5 and 6)
Post by: drb1200 on October 09, 2012, 10:53:20 AM
UPDATE: Added Axe (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8318/8070877894_2447b4ed90_c.jpg) to the Babylonians, Destructive Sin (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8033/8070884755_3698957ca1_c.jpg) to the demons, and Jeremiah (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8460/8070955026_efd451cac4_c.jpg) to the Prophets.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 7)
Post by: drb1200 on October 09, 2012, 12:40:41 PM
Tier 7!!!

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NEXT will be all the MISC cards in TeXP, including The Grapes of Wrath and High Places.
Title: Re: Redemption Redesign - Thesaurus ex Preteritus (Updated with Tier 7)
Post by: drb1200 on October 09, 2012, 02:34:07 PM
UPDATE: Front page now has every card in order 1-60 except the last 6 which is coming soon. :)
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