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Prophets as Swords
« on: August 10, 2016, 11:08:08 AM »
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Just tell me what you think, I can take it 8)
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2016, 11:21:24 AM »
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 :o super negate Isaiah protected from evil characters... Too OP lol, but I like the idea of the exchange, but maybe make it an exchange and draw. ;D

One question, why would you ever play this as an enhancement? There are so many other cards to draw with! I think the enhancement part should be something like "interrupt the battle, draw 2 and play the next enhancement, which cannot be prevented if used by a prophet."
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2016, 11:25:50 AM »
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:o super negate Isaiah protected from evil characters... Too OP lol, but I like the idea of the exchange, but maybe make it an exchange and draw. ;D

That is a good idea! oooh, I'm super excited now! Thanks, I'll get on to it.
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2016, 11:27:16 AM »
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I would agree I love the idea but waay to over powered right now :)

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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2016, 11:47:52 AM »
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Okay, here is Prophets as Swords v2: 8)



I like this version a lot better, but as I have added play an enhancement, I'm just not too sure about cbp, as it might still be too powerful. What do you guys think?
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2016, 11:54:49 AM »
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I think if you cut the CBP it will be perfect but that's just me :)

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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2016, 12:07:28 PM »
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I think if you cut the CBP it will be perfect but that's just me :)

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Yep, I was leaning that way myself. Just wanted to see people's opinions before I deleted cbp, seeing as most of you are more experienced than me. Thanks for the input!
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2016, 12:23:25 PM »
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Here is v3, without cbp (hey that rhymed!)



Hope you like it! 8)
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2016, 12:26:21 PM »
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Here is v3, without cbp (hey that rhymed!)



Hope you like it! 8)

Hmm... I just realized, they are "swords", so shouldn't it be a discard ability? For the enhancement part, you could change it to if used by a prophet, negate and discard an evil character in play.
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2016, 12:31:51 PM »
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Here is v3, without cbp (hey that rhymed!)



Hope you like it! 8)

Hmm... I just realized, they are "swords", so shouldn't it be a discard ability? For the enhancement part, you could change it to if used by a prophet, negate and discard an evil character in play.

I do like that idea actually, and I had thought of something like that. I suppose I over adjusted the ability to avoid it being too op, and ended up going to the other extreme.

I have another idea now though, I will get to work on v4 right away!
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2016, 12:48:51 PM »
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Here we are, the (not so) long awaited version 4 of Prophets as Swords!:



What do you think of this version?
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2016, 01:00:14 PM »
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Here we are, the (not so) long awaited version 4 of Prophets as Swords!:



What do you think of this version?

I like this version better, seeing as green has like 0 discard enhancements that I'm aware of.
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2016, 01:12:37 PM »
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Here we are, the (not so) long awaited version 4 of Prophets as Swords!:



What do you think of this version?

I like this version better, seeing as green has like 0 discard enhancements that I'm aware of.

Also, it has a bit of a speed boost with the draw and exchange, so you can set up your prophets a bit quicker, which is a boost they've been needing for a while. Also, I don't think it's OP either because your opponent also draws and although you can play an enhancement, the likelihood of your opponent having an answer to said enhancement increases as they have an opportunity to draw into one (if they haven't already got an answer, otherwise they might have even more options).
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2016, 01:36:14 PM »
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I like this last version as well :) I approve! Haha
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2016, 01:56:47 PM »
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I like this last version as well :) I approve! Haha

Yay!
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2016, 03:12:23 PM »
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Thought you might like this design....
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2016, 03:25:19 PM »
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Thought you might like this design....
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I do! I like it very much! You definitely had better luck finding suitable artwork than me, that's for sure! Also, well done with the graphic design with the border and reference ribbon and everything, it must have taken you a little while to do that (I'm a simpleton, the card maker app is all my skills are up to)!
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2016, 04:02:13 PM »
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Thought you might like this design....
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I like the card layout and the art, but I'm not sold on that font. I think it need to be a bit thicker, and maybe more serifs, although I'm no expert. :2cents:
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2016, 05:14:55 PM »
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full art cards ftw!  8)

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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2016, 11:07:30 PM »
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Love this card! The wording could be cleaned up, but for everything that matters this would be ready for printing.
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2016, 01:14:32 AM »
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Love this card! The wording could be cleaned up, but for everything that matters this would be ready for printing.

Oh wow, really? That's pretty awesome. I'm glad you guys like it that much!
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2016, 03:45:30 AM »
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Also, with this card I just realised how well it would fit in a BoM deck. Not that Moses needs any more help lol. Exchange for Moses from deck? Check. Cbp battle-winner? Check.

Although, now that I think about it, would Moses' negate ability negate the exchange and draw when he enters battle, sending him back to deck and returning Prophets as Swords back into battle, leaving it there vulnerable as a generic 7/7 hero? In that case, if that is correct, then that is probably a good thing, lol. If not, then well... BoM might just get stronger (still all hypothetical though, I doubt this card will get printed lol)
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2016, 12:32:41 AM »
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I'm fairly certain that because PaS would no longer be in play that Moses would not be able to negate it.

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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2016, 02:44:21 AM »
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I'm fairly certain that because PaS would no longer be in play that Moses would not be able to negate it.

Okay, that's good to know
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2016, 12:01:18 PM »
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This is a very cool idea! I don't know if I'd make it draw, seems like that would help the opponent more than hurt. I would think this would fit better:

"Exchange this Hero with a green prophet in deck or territory to make opponent discard an evil card from hand or territory. If played as an Enhancement, negate and discard an evil card. Cannot be prevented."

That's my :2cents:. As is, it's very solid. Well done!
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2016, 12:51:30 PM »
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This is a very cool idea! I don't know if I'd make it draw, seems like that would help the opponent more than hurt. I would think this would fit better:

"Exchange this Hero with a green prophet in deck or territory to make opponent discard an evil card from hand or territory. If played as an Enhancement, negate and discard an evil card. Cannot be prevented."

That's my :2cents:. As is, it's very solid. Well done!

I like your version too, but the purpose of having your opponent/s draw too is to dumb down the power of the draw and play. It just increases the likelihood of your opponent having an answer to it, otherwise I think it would be way too powerful, especially if you played it after revealing a hand. However, I do now see that it would really hinder its stock in type 2 decks. Just some thoughts.

I'm glad you guys all like it though, I did not expect this card to get that much attention. Awesome 8)
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2016, 01:27:12 AM »
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Hey guys, I just revisited this for a bit because I had a bit of an idea about how to tweek it a little. I cleaned up the wording a bit to make it easier to understand and flow better. I also made an alternate version too! Please tell me what you think about both. Thanks! 8)

Prophets as Swords (cleaned up version)
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2016, 10:15:53 AM »
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Negate and battle winner I can use every turn with Eternal Covenant? Yes please!

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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2016, 10:12:54 PM »
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It's a surefire way to make sure no deck will ever be without a Prophet contingent ever again, nor any defense without Jezebel and Ahab!
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2016, 08:07:57 AM »
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Negate and battle winner I can use every turn with Eternal Covenant? Yes please!

Well, you can't do the "Negate/discard" portion if this card is a hero, which it will be if you use Eternal Covenant.  But I agree that this card is too splashable, flexible, and powerful. 

Here is an alternate idea that I think is toned down enough:

Prophets as Swords
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Identifiers:  Prophet, X = number of your Isaiah - Malachi prophets
"You may exchange this hero with an Isaiah - Malachi prophet in deck or territory to make all draw X (limit 3).  If your Isaiah - Malachi prophet is opposed, exchange an evil character in battle with one in opponent's territory to discard an evil card in that territory.  Cannot be interrupted."
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Re: Prophets as Swords
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2016, 01:51:22 PM »
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Negate and battle winner I can use every turn with Eternal Covenant? Yes please!

Well, you can't do the "Negate/discard" portion if this card is a hero, which it will be if you use Eternal Covenant.  But I agree that this card is too splashable, flexible, and powerful. 

Here is an alternate idea that I think is toned down enough:

Prophets as Swords
7/7 Green Hero / 4/1 Green GE
Identifiers:  Prophet, X = number of your Isaiah - Malachi prophets
"You may exchange this hero with an Isaiah - Malachi prophet in deck or territory to make all draw X (limit 3).  If your Isaiah - Malachi prophet is opposed, exchange an evil character in battle with one in opponent's territory to discard an evil card in that territory.  Cannot be interrupted."

I like it! I find it a bit funny and cool because I originally had in mind for it to only work with prophets from the books of the prophets, but didn't know how to write that on the card. I like that you managed to pull it off and improve the card all round. Niice 8)
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