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Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« on: August 06, 2011, 11:31:32 PM »
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Noah
4/6 Blue Hero
Genesis 6:9, Father of Shem, Ham and Japheth
Search Deck for Noah's Ark. May band to a Son of Noah. Protect Genesis Heroes from Discard Abilities while this card is in play. Cannot be Interrupted.

Shem
5/3 Blue Hero
Genesis 6:10
If Noah's Ark is in play, Prevent all Special Abilities on Generic Evil Characters. Protect Genesis Heroes from Removal while this Card in play.

Ham
4/5 Blue Hero
Genesis 9:22
If Noah's Ark is in play, Search Deck for a Good Card from Genesis 1-10 and add it to hand. Negate OT Curses, Poisons and Diseases. Cannot be Interrupted.

Japheth
6/6 Blue Hero
Genesis 9:18
If Noah's Ark is in play, Negate Evil Draw, Discard and Prevent Abilities on OT Cards. If all Heroes in play are Genesis Heroes, Discard a Warrior Class Evil Character or Band to a Genesis Hero.

Noah's Wife
3/3 Blue Hero
Genesis 7:7
Search Deck for Shem, Ham, Japheth or  an Enhancement from Genesis 7-9.

Noah's Ark
Good Fortress
Genesis 6:14, Plays to Set-Aside, Holds up to 8 Genesis Heroes. X= The number of Heroes here.
Protect Contents from Opponents Cards. Negate all Sites. During Upkeep Phase, Remove a Genesis Card in your Discard Pile to Protect X Cards in play from being Negated or Discarded this round.

Construction Begins
3/4 Blue Territory Class Good Enhancement
(Same Verse), X = X = # of Good Dominants in that player's hand.
Reveal all hands. Each player draws X. If a player would draw more than 3 cards, they may search deck for a good Fortress instead.

Dove
3/4 Blue Good Enhancement
Genesis 8:8
Interrupt the Battle, Opponent must Discard an Evil Card from Hand, Draw 2. Play an Enhancement. If used by Noah, Cannot be Interrupted

Entering the Ark
1/3 Blue Good Enhancement
Genesis 8:1
Interrupt the Battle and place up to 8 Genesis Heroes you control in Noah's Ark. Cannot be Negated.

What do u all think? I made a couple reprints for support Cards for this setup too. I'd love to see what all of u think!
« Last Edit: August 07, 2011, 12:21:17 PM by megamanlan »
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 12:18:59 AM »
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Ark's protection from discard seems redundant with Noah's protect. Not really sure why you would ever use Entering the Ark since if you had the chance to interrupt your removal you'd be better off playing something that WINS the battle, not guarantees you LOSE, lol. Ham just has way too much on him. 2 searches, a negate, AND CBI, oh boy. For Japheth, you don't need "negate evil" when you later specify "OT evil cards", we know they're evil, lol.

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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 02:09:15 AM »
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Entering the Ark is a protective effect, like in the Clouds.
It's actually made to protect them from a 'Discard all Cards in Battle' effect.
Although, Noah's effect is made to be a useful Hero Protect, Noah's Ark is for other Cards, like Sites, Artifacts, Lost Souls, etc.

I may change Ham a little, like just have Ham band to Cannan.

Also, I will change Japheth's effect as well.
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 02:11:03 AM »
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Also, what do u think of Dove and Construction Begins too?
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 02:28:26 AM »
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Dove is meh, I'm not sure an int/draw/play should also discard something else, but I'm not opposed to it.

Construction Begins is okay depending on what the identifier actually does. Is it supposed to mean good dominants in your hand (because that's what it means right now)? Or is it supposed to mean in that player's hand (i.e.: Charlie has 2 good doms and Sandra has 1, therefore Charlie draws 2 and Sandra draws 1)? If the latter, word it more like this: "X = # of Good Dominants in that player's hand". Also, the rest of the effect sounds better thusly: "Reveal all hands. Each player draws X. If a player would draw more than 3 cards, they may search deck for a good Fortress instead."

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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 04:05:25 AM »
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Yea, it's in each players hand, I wasn't sure how to say that, I'll change it in the morning.

I hope I answered the questions on the other cards all good for u right?
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 07:47:05 AM »
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Entering the Ark is a protective effect, like in the Clouds.
It's actually made to protect them from a 'Discard all Cards in Battle' effect.
Although, Noah's effect is made to be a useful Hero Protect, Noah's Ark is for other Cards, like Sites, Artifacts, Lost Souls, etc.

Also, I will change Japheth's effect as well.
And I don't know anyone that uses In the Clouds, lol.
I suppose I see the difference, but with the blanket protect of Ark I don't see why you also, then, have Noah's protect.

Japheth is now just a better, but situational, Jacob. You should give him a more unique effect, imho.

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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 12:14:38 PM »
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Either way, it was made to be a pull out.
As for Noah's Ark's effect, Noah is partly made so that u dont have to target Genesis Heroes w/ Ark's effect, besides Noah doesnt protect from Negatation. Part of the Idea for Noah was to make a more useful Ruben-like Protect Hero. Ark is for everything else, besides, Noah's effect turns off while he's in the ark because Set-Aside is out of play, right?

For Japheth, I was trying to think of a Good Idea, but I don't want just 'Band to a Genesis Hero' there. Maybe 'Discard a Weapon in play or Band to a Genesis Hero.'
Also, if Ark plays to Set-Aside, does that mean that Shem, Ham and Japheth's effects won't work?

Also, any comments on Noah's Wife?
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2011, 03:02:06 PM »
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Noah
4/6 Blue Hero
Genesis 6:9, Father of Shem, Ham and Japheth
Search Deck for Noah's Ark. May band to a Son of Noah. While in play, protect Noah and his family from discard.

Shem
5/3 Blue Hero
Genesis 6:10
If Noah's Ark is in play, Prevent all Special Abilities on Generic Evil Characters.

Ham
Good.

Japheth
Good.

Noah's Wife
3/3 Blue Hero
Genesis 7:7
Search Deck for Shem, Ham, Japheth or  an Enhancement from Genesis 7-9 and add to hand.

Noah's Ark
Good Fortress
Genesis 6:14, Plays to Set-Aside, Holds Noah, his sons, and his wife.
Protect Contents from Opponents Cards.  While occupied, Negate all Sites and O.T. fortresses. During Upkeep Phase,  you may remove a Genesis Card in your Discard Pile to Protect Noah and his family from capture, removal, and conversion.

Construction Begins
3/4 Blue Territory Class Good Enhancement
(Same Verse), X = X = # of Good Dominants in that player's hand.
Reveal all hands. Each player draws X. If a player would draw more than 3 cards, they may search deck for a good Fortress instead.

Dove
3/4 Blue Good Enhancement
Genesis 8:8
Interrupt the Battle, Opponent must Discard an Evil Card from Hand or battle. You may Draw 2 and play an Enhancement. Cannot be negated if used by Noah.

Entering the Ark
1/3 Blue Good Enhancement
Genesis 8:1
Interrupt the Battle and place any of your Noah's family heroes in Noah's Ark. If 5 cards are set aside by this ability, discard all evil characters after battle.

My changes.

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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2011, 05:45:46 PM »
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One problem, I am trying to mix in Noah and his family into the Genesis setup, like how Eve is working in.

Noah - Why only his family? Plus then his effect becomes like Ruben, who ISNT played because his effect doesn't stay in effect after the turn.

Shem - The only reason why I had the 'Protected from Removal' is so it has the same help that Noah's Sons had, (Which wasn't that much, but still.)

Noah's Ark - If u have it limited to Noah and his family, it wont be played that much. Also, why bother using it if it only protects Noah and his Family? It makes the Ark a waste of a Card and it loses all use. The reason for Protecting anything is first the Animals, and second Noah would have brought items w/ him on the ark, so it protects those items as well.

Noah's Wife - Attending Angel defined that if a card is searched it is added to your hand, unless otherwise specified.

Entering the Ark - Why does Noah and his family boarding the Ark discard all Evil Characters? And espcially why would it drop Demons? Also I wanted a CBN so no one could stop it, and also it was meant for all Genesis Heroes.
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2011, 05:53:52 PM »
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Well, it really would make no sense for say Eve to be in the ark. You can't throw ET into Fishing boat.

Noah is worded properly "While in play...", see Judas's wording. Also, why would he protect anyone else?

Shem, I added the protect from removal onto Ark.

Noah's ark, Dust and Ashes only works with Job and its still used. Make the noah subtheme strong enough to use on its own, and Ark wouldn't be a waste.

Noah's wife: good point.

When everyone entered the ark, the flood happened. That should explain it.  :P

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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2011, 06:48:45 PM »
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Do not forget that Noah's ark was open to anyone to come in, it point is that no one else did. Also, I'm trying to make Noah and his sons apart of the Genesis Hero archetype, not to make their own.

Noah - Because all people are desendants of Noah, so Noah protects his decendents.

Shem - I didn't notice that, but now he is kinda useless unless u have Noah's Ark, and that doesn't make him a very good character.

Noah's Ark - My idea isnt to make it it's own theme, it's to make it apart of the Genesis Heroes. Because it wouldn't make sense that Eve is apart of the Genesis Heroes and Noah and his family are not. (I'm specifically meaning u don't play them in a Genesis Hero deck.) The other problem is that Job archetype is already defined, and cant be apart of another archetype, Noah can.

Well, The Flood already has a defined card + the verse mentions Noah being in the ark for a week before the flood.
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 11:30:53 AM »
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Noah - Because all people are desendants of Noah, so Noah protects his decendents.

Noah is unnecessary with [Edited by R.O.S.E.S].

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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2011, 11:46:52 AM »
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Add in some Nephilim as some evil characters and that seems to be a fun round. My idea would be:

Nephilim
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Reference Gen. 6:4
May band to a evil character (human/demon)

We can have a scriptural interpretation chat later in Hebrew 201 ;) 
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2011, 07:23:51 PM »
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Nephilim would have to be reeeeeeeally epic, or many would be dissapointed ;)
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2011, 11:08:36 PM »
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What does that have to do w/ Noah?
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2011, 12:58:32 AM »
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CONEXT = MEANING. Read Genesis 6
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2011, 01:13:48 AM »
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I don't see it in Genesis 6.
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2011, 01:21:21 AM »
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 1 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

 5 The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the LORD said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.

Just saying that they are mentioned previous to vv. 9-22, which is the account of moses. I apologize if snappy.
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2011, 03:43:15 PM »
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NKJV version says Giants, nothing else.
That's the version I read.
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2011, 05:43:01 PM »
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Well, being as there was a translation issue, I still think it would be awesome to have the "giants/nephelim" as an antagonist to the card series. Just adds a little ooh ahh factor IMO.
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Re: Noah Reprint, Noah's Son's and Ark!
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2011, 09:34:53 AM »
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Yea, what do u think of my ideas?
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