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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: Colin Michael on March 15, 2009, 09:40:13 PM
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Whether you regard it as cannonical or not, Maccabees offers great insight into post-exhilic Jewish history. It contains many names, peoples, and battles (people and events that I would love to learn about and commit to memory through Redemption).
With the inovations of the cards of St. Patrick and Emporer Nero, would there be any objections to the possible future printing of a Maccabees set?
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I don't think a set would be devoted to something that isn't based in Scripture. Having some stuff from the inter-testimental period would be interesting though. We've already got Antiochus Epiphanies, so why not others?
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I don't think a set would be devoted to something that isn't based in Scripture. Having some stuff from the inter-testimental period would be interesting though. We've already got Antiochus Epiphanies, so why not others?
Well, technically, it's just not mutually agreed upon as scripture.
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Maccabees is great. I don't see why it isnt in the bible if Esther is.
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Maccabees is great. I don't see why it isnt in the bible if Esther is.
Dude Esther's very important
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Maccabees is great. I don't see why it isnt in the bible if Esther is.
Dude Esther's very important
I know. But the book doesnt mention God once and Maccabees is a good story also. I have a hunch it might have been removed. -_-
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Maccabees is great. I don't see why it isnt in the bible if Esther is.
Dude Esther's very important
Maybe it is important from a jewish perspective, but as Rulz said, Esther doesnt mention God once. In fact the only religious practice it mentions is fasting, not praying or attending synagogue, or anything else, just fasting. It does provide the scriptural basis for Purim but that is all.
Maccabees provides the scriptural basis for Hanukah, mentions Temple worship and the priestly duties and prayer, so by Esthers Definition if deserves to be considered scriptural. It just wasn't because Luther not to include it in the OT
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Maccabees is great. I don't see why it isnt in the bible if Esther is.
Dude Esther's very important
Maybe it is important from a jewish perspective, but as Rulz said, Esther doesnt mention God once. In fact the only religious practice it mentions is fasting, not praying or attending synagogue, or anything else, just fasting. It does provide the scriptural basis for Purim but that is all.
Maccabees provides the scriptural basis for Hanukah, mentions Temple worship and the priestly duties and prayer, so by Esthers Definition if deserves to be considered scriptural. It just wasn't because Luther not to include it in the OT
I think the Protestants chose not to accept it because out of it was derived the Catholic doctrine of praying for the dead.
Esther is still desputed as to whether it is a historical event or not, actually.
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I think the Protestants chose not to accept it because out of it was derived the Catholic doctrine of praying for the dead.
I agree, that may have been Luther's measuring stick for what is scriptural.
Esther is still desputed as to whether it is a historical event or not, actually.
Colin, come on, you are better than that. I didnt say historical basis, I said scriptural basis. As a Historian, I know that there is little proof of the Esther story, but it does not change the fact that modern Jews believe in the Esther Story and use the book to support the practice of cebrating Purim.
besides, in this instance there likely wouldn't be muh written records to prove an event like this anyway because Persian Kings are loathe to record anything that does not glorify themselves.
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Well, naturally. No accusations were made, I was just bringing it up (I have a habit of always quoting the post in front of me).
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Not a fan of the Apochryphal books? ;)
The maccabees led a revolt against the selucid rulers of paleistine about 170 Yrs before Christ. It is from this revolt that the Jews get the story of Hanukah when judas maccabeus has the priests cleans the temple after so many years of greek rule. Eventually the rebellion leads to the Hyrcanus Dynasty where the Priesthood and the Kingship are entertwined and they see themselves as Kings AND Priests, worshiping on the Sabbath and killing the rest of the week ;).
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Whether you regard it as cannonical or not, Maccabees offers great insight into post-exhilic Jewish history. It contains many names, peoples, and battles (people and events that I would love to learn about and commit to memory through Redemption).
With the inovations of the cards of St. Patrick and Emporer Nero, would there be any objections to the possible future printing of a Maccabees set?
maccabees?
It's one of the additional books of the Bible in Catholic and Orthodox traditions.
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oh.. are you chotholic? or orthodox?
I'm transitioning from Presbyterianism to Catholicism at the moment.
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Presbyterianism?
Basically, from reformed to Catholicism.
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are you a Presbyterianism?
No. As I said, I'm at a transitioning period.
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ummmm, both presbyterian and Catholic are part of Christianity. soo, his change is more of a sideways move.
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ummmm, both presbyterian and Catholic are part of Christianity
It's debatable.
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ummmm, both presbyterian and Catholic are part of Christianity
It's debatable.
Not on this message board.
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ummmm, both presbyterian and Catholic are part of Christianity. soo, his change is more of a sideways move.
i could say a few things about this. :-\ catholic pray to mother mary is she god?? no
openin' a can o' worms eh?
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ummmm, both presbyterian and Catholic are part of Christianity. soo, his change is more of a sideways move.
i could say a few things about this. :-\ catholic pray to mother mary is she god?? no
I already warned you that debating about the inclusion of Catholics or Protestants within the Christian community will probably not be tolerated, and I expect that any posts debating this issue will be deleted or threads locked. So please refrain.
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You expect correct.