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Title: Key to the Abyss
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on March 07, 2011, 04:51:53 PM
Key to the Abyss
Type: Artifact • Special Ability: If activated on Gates of Hell, holder's demons may use enhancements connected with demons regardless of brigade. Discard this card, if a good dominant is played. • Identifiers: May be activated on your Gates of Hell in set-aside • Verse: Revelation 9:1

"The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss."



Very well may be overpowered, but gives demons WAY more strategy and combo/combo/combo fun
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: The M on March 07, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Key to the Abyss
Type: Artifact • Special Ability: Holder's demons may use enhancements connected with demons regardless of brigade. Discard this card, if Son of God is played. • Identifiers: May be activated on your Gates of Hell in set-aside or on a demon in your territory • Verse: Revelation 9:1

"The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss."



OVERPOWERED.

fixed.

How about no identifiers and discard this card if a good dominant is played.
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on March 07, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
Key to the Abyss
Type: Artifact • Special Ability: Holder's demons may use enhancements connected with demons regardless of brigade. Discard this card, if Son of God is played. • Identifiers: May be activated on your Gates of Hell in set-aside or on a demon in your territory • Verse: Revelation 9:1

"The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss."



OVERPOWERED.

fixed.

How about no identifiers and discard this card if a good dominant is played.

I know it's absolutely impossible to kill off, but what enhancements connected to demons make it OP?
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: SomeKittens on March 07, 2011, 04:56:30 PM
Any panic demon can use any/all orange brigade enhancements, for one.
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on March 07, 2011, 04:57:44 PM
I suppose Wrath of Satan would see more use too ::)


EDIT- modified card
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: browarod on March 07, 2011, 05:00:11 PM
Any panic demon can use any/all orange brigade enhancements, for one.
That's only true if all orange-brigade cards are "connected with demons" by default. The Pride trio, for example, aren't necessarily connected with demons although they were printed in orange-brigade.
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: The M on March 07, 2011, 05:00:20 PM
 :o :o :o
Que would be...
UNSTOPPABLE!
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on March 07, 2011, 05:01:18 PM
Any panic demon can use any/all orange brigade enhancements, for one.
That's only true if all orange-brigade cards are "connected with demons" by default. The Pride trio, for example, aren't necessarily connected with demons although they were printed in orange-brigade.

that's true
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on March 07, 2011, 07:39:06 PM
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Discard this card if a good dominant is played

This part ruins it for me :(. Now it's way too easy to get rid of. I would word it to be; "If an angel or lone demon is in battle,... May be used twice" or something like that.

But demons already have Deceiving Spirit, and he's no threat; what harm could this do? ::)

How about, opponent may discard a good dominant to discard this card? kinda like CoM...
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: SomeKittens on March 07, 2011, 09:04:34 PM
Hmm.  I could've sworn that I saw a quote that all of Orange brigade was related to demons.
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: megamanlan on March 07, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
It's okay. Maybe u should make it a curse instead though.
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: Minister Polarius on March 08, 2011, 02:11:38 AM
Even if it were unkillable and unlimited use it wouldn't be OP. Idk why everyone was saying it was.
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: browarod on March 08, 2011, 02:55:45 AM
Even if it were unkillable and unlimited use it wouldn't be OP. Idk why everyone was saying it was.
Apparently they're scared of Panic Demons using orange enhancements, lol.
Title: Re: Key to the Abyss
Post by: Minister Polarius on March 08, 2011, 03:15:57 AM
It's actually a fantastic idea. To make it even more pro-Theme, I'd make it like this:

Keys to the Abyss
Artifact
-May be activated on your Gates of Hell-
"Your Demons may use Orange Enhancements."
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