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Title: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Minister Polarius on February 26, 2011, 11:36:47 AM
(All different art, verses in Hebrew for the first two, Greek for the last one)

Kadosh
0/0 Silver Good Enhancement
"You may interrupt the battle and play an Enhancement."
~Isaiah 6:3

Kadosh
0/0 Silver Good Enhancement
"The next Enhancement you play Cannot be Negated by a Human. You may play an Enhancement."
~Isaiah 6:3

Kadosh!
7/0 Silver Good Enhancement, TC
"Protect all Hands from Discard and Shuffle Abilities this turn. Discard all Human Characters in battle and return all Human Heroes in play to owners' hands."
~Revelation 4:8
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 26, 2011, 11:48:48 AM
I like them!
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: CJSports on February 26, 2011, 02:46:30 PM
(All different art, verses in Hebrew for the first two, Greek for the last one)

Kadosh!
7/0 Silver Good Enhancement, TC
"Protect all Hands from Discard and Shuffle Abilities this turn. Discard all Human Characters in battle and return all Human Heroes in play to owners' hands."
~Revelation 4:8

So lets say you had jacob to angel at shur an dyou played this, does this mean jacob would be killed before he returned to hand?
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Minister Polarius on February 26, 2011, 05:56:51 PM
Yes. Nobody can live in the presence of a Holy God.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Isildur on February 26, 2011, 08:02:19 PM
first enhans has already been done for silver :p
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 27, 2011, 12:31:07 AM
There's only 2. And both don't do anything else, where as all the others do. Angels need some First Enh. Cards that are better than just that.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Minister Polarius on February 27, 2011, 02:03:09 AM
first enhans has already been done for silver :p
Not quite. There's one that interrupts an Enhancement, and one that's a play-when-blocked, but there's no ITB play.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: CJSports on February 27, 2011, 08:19:06 AM
Swift Beings

2/5
Interrupt the battle and play the next enhancement.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Minister Polarius on February 27, 2011, 09:28:14 AM
I guess I was thinking of Bound. But the smallest Hero Silver has is 4/4, so Hippocleides doesn't care if there are multiple ITB play B)
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: SomeKittens on February 27, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
I guess I was thinking of Bound. But the smallest Hero Silver has is 4/4, so Hippocleides doesn't care if there are multiple ITB play B)

Angel at Jerusalem (Pi)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: This Hero has access to any Site. If King Hezekiah is in play or set aside, discard a warrior-class Assyrian. • Identifiers: OT Male Angel • Verse: II Chronicles 32:21 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Uncommon)
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Isildur on February 27, 2011, 11:34:46 AM
Angel with Secret Name */*

lol I wonder when was the last time pol used silver :p
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Minister Polarius on February 27, 2011, 08:36:03 PM
The lowest useful* Hero Silver has is 4/4.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 27, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
I agree. AoJ is useless. And just because we have Swift Beings and Angels Sword doesn't mean that Silver should be left w/ practally no useful cards when they are being discarded.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Isildur on February 27, 2011, 11:55:26 PM
wait what? how is a 1/1 or a 2/2 with site access useless? And what are you talking about Silver has boat loads of interrupts!

Some what Angels Sword
Bound
that 7/0 thing
Swift Beings
Flaming Sword

and a couple more I cant think of right now... and even if they dont they still have the most useful fbtn banding, lots of banding in general, Chamber + I am (blue 5/2 thing) combo.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Warrior_Monk on February 28, 2011, 12:04:41 AM
The lowest useful hero Silver has is 10/8  :-*
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 28, 2011, 12:09:26 AM
There is technically 6,

Flaming Sword
Bound - It's useless unless Ur playing against Demons.
Striking Herod - only works against Male Humans.
Swift Beings - Plays next Enhancement, but all the other brigade versions draw 3 as well.
Protection of Angels - it's very useful.
Gloria ex Eslsis Deo - Inturrupt and Negates a Curse or Weapon... Past that... Not that useful sometimes.
Angels Sword doesn't Inturrupt, it just let's u play an enhancement, nothing else.
Just to note, most of the time, banding only makes it harder to win. And plus anything w/ 2/2 is hard to win if an opponent plays a good EC.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Isildur on February 28, 2011, 12:30:27 AM
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Just to note, most of the time, banding only makes it harder to win. And plus anything w/ 2/2 is hard to win if an opponent plays a good EC.
im sorry this made me laugh pretty hard.

2/2 is for inish so you can play Second Seal and get super huge numbers with fbtn isnt that a win? And banding does not make it harder to win Gathering + El Capitan or TSA anyone? Old School Red Banding is an example of proper banding when played right you can stop any deck cold in its tracks. Sigh this is what happens when people play Garden Tomb decks and Disciples for too long :'(
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 28, 2011, 12:40:34 AM
2nd Seal is negated if TSA enters battle, plus if the Opponent has a good deck that can get rid of the good cards or destroy all the good cards u play, banding is useless.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Alex_Olijar on February 28, 2011, 12:47:32 AM
2nd Seal is negated if TSA enters battle, plus if the Opponent has a good deck that can get rid of the good cards or destroy all the good cards u play, banding is useless.

That's just blatantly not true.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 28, 2011, 02:33:10 AM
U obviously haven't played against Destrution Decks or wellplayed Babylonians
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Minister Polarius on February 28, 2011, 09:08:19 AM
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Chamber + I am (blue 5/2 thing) combo.
Nope, that got put an end to.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Red on February 28, 2011, 10:05:31 AM
The three things that keep silver from being the best is this: No truly universal battlewinners 2:Lack of in-brigade banding. 3:No good* drawing.

*:They have d1s that are horrid.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: SomeKittens on February 28, 2011, 10:38:14 AM
U obviously haven't played against Destrution Decks or wellplayed Babylonians
I haven't personally, but I've seen it done.  Babs can capture plenty of human heroes.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on February 28, 2011, 10:50:29 AM
I'm against silver being a viable mono-brigade. It is already the best support brigade, especially now that pharisees are rocking.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 28, 2011, 12:20:33 PM
That's one option of Babylonians. There are plenty of Crimson Cards that don't need to be played by Babylonians that are really good.

And also, Silver does have some Battle-winners: Striking Herod, TSA/Captian just not many.
And I think that Silver should have the option to have a good stand alone just like all the other brigades. Because I find most Multi-Brigade Decks (except Speed-decks) are useless. Believe me, I tried them.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Warrior_Monk on February 28, 2011, 12:48:05 PM
Silver has the most battle winners of every brigade! You can get to 9001 successful rescue attempts with silver battle winners.

List:
1. TSA
2. TSA
3. TSA
4. TSA
5. TSA
...
42. TSA
...
9001. TSA
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 28, 2011, 12:54:54 PM
Yep. Plus Striking gives a + 1 against Humans. Then TSA/Micheal/Angels Sword finishes the job.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Warrior_Monk on February 28, 2011, 01:46:45 PM
Striking Herod is nice for the 7/0 boost. I still prefer Godspeed though. Yeah, go ahead and block my Simeon Captain band with 12FG. :-*
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 28, 2011, 01:56:25 PM
Haven't herd of that one before. Nice! When I get Gab. Meets Zackarias and Di Gab, I'm going to be abusing that combo way to much.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 28, 2011, 01:58:52 PM
I have that one and don't like it too much, besides, I like Striking when Im facing Nebu and don't have my TSA or Mike yet.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Warrior_Monk on February 28, 2011, 02:01:51 PM
Nazzy kills Nebby. Problem solved. Silver is probably the worst brigade to go mono (red would be the other one...), so Michael is meh. Usually it's TSA, Captain, (insert two others here, banding angel, searching angel, or Gabe...)
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on February 28, 2011, 02:04:37 PM
That TXP Angel that searches for a site or fort is one of the best heroes in the game IMO. Right up there with Susana, Matthew, Thad, Capt, and MMoJ.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on February 28, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
Oh Yea, I agree that AoW is great, I use it as well. Angels alone are actually not that bad. I just won my tourney w/ An Angel deck. But I'd love to see angels get a lot better. Besides, I like TSA/Mike combo, because I can keep using my cards while my opponent can't.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Red on February 28, 2011, 06:31:51 PM
Angels alone isn't that good. angels with Teal or blue splash(Jacob and tribal elder) is OK(Not super though)
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Isildur on February 28, 2011, 06:51:38 PM
Nazzy kills Nebby. Problem solved. Silver is probably the worst brigade to go mono (red would be the other one...)
My Nats Deck nuff said.


Quote
Chamber + I am (blue 5/2 thing) combo.
Nope, that got put an end to.
When did that happen? We still do this at our tourneys... Need link please (:
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: lightningninja on February 28, 2011, 07:17:42 PM
Killing all humans is pretty powerful...
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: TheJaylor on February 28, 2011, 11:30:07 PM
Killing all humans is pretty powerful...
Only in battle. I think that these cards would be very useful to help make Silver better by its self.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Warrior_Monk on February 28, 2011, 11:31:52 PM
Nazzy kills Nebby. Problem solved. Silver is probably the worst brigade to go mono (red would be the other one...)
My Nats Deck nuff said.
I still have no idea how you did so well with that deck. Big props to you.

Quote
Chamber + I am (blue 5/2 thing) combo.
Nope, that got put an end to.
When did that happen? We still do this at our tourneys... Need link please (:
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24490.0
Sixth post.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Isildur on March 01, 2011, 12:13:59 AM
wait how does it stop it exactly I dont really understand the whole "instead" thing. Does it mean like you can "stack" abilities?
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Warrior_Monk on March 01, 2011, 12:18:09 AM
Instead means the first ability never happened. Hence, costs are not met by instead abilities. Hence, if you discard a good card with I am Holy and it gets insteaded by Chamber, the discard never actually happened.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Red on March 01, 2011, 09:33:22 AM
Such a horrible ruleing...
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: SomeKittens on March 01, 2011, 10:37:21 AM
They need to start ruling stuff to make it awesome.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Isildur on March 01, 2011, 07:43:35 PM
but if you discard an angel from hand would chamber still kick in?
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Red on March 01, 2011, 08:12:10 PM
yep.
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: Isildur on March 01, 2011, 08:13:17 PM
hmm funky
Title: Re: Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh!
Post by: megamanlan on March 01, 2011, 08:35:18 PM
That's why I love Chamber! Besides, I don't use any effects that would be insteaded anyway.
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