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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: Arrthoa on February 16, 2012, 01:51:22 PM
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Confused Languages
Blue 3/2
Ability: Evil Characters with different brigades cannot band. Cannot be Negated if used by a Genesis Hero.
Reference: Same.
Wrestling with God
Blue 2/2
Ability: If a lone Genesis hero is in battle, search deck or discard for a silver Hero and add to battle. Cannot be prevented if Jacob is in play.
Reference: Same.
Creation of the World
Blue/Silver
Ability: Search deck for all Genesis Heroes and add to battle. Cannot be negated if a angel is in play.
Reference: Same.
A New Beginning
Blue
Ability: Shuffle all cards in battle into their owner's deck and each player draws three cards. Cannot be Interrupted if you have less redeemed souls than opponent.
Reference: Same
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Confused Languages
Blue 3/2
Ability: Evil Characters with different books cannot band. Cannot be Negated if used by a Genesis Hero.
Reference: Same.
This seems under powered. Probably won't be used much
Wrestling with God
Blue 2/2
Ability: If a lone Genesis hero is in battle, search deck for a silver Hero and add to battle. Cannot be prevented if Jacob is in play.
Reference: Same.
Decent, I guess if you happen to be using CotH.
Creation of the World
Blue/Silver
Ability: Search deck for all Genesis Heroes and add to battle. Cannot be negated if a angel is in battle.
Reference: Same.
Decent
A New Beginning
Blue
Ability: Shuffle all cards in battle into their owner's deck and draw seven cards. If player has less cards in hand than opponent, player may make a second rescue attempt.
Reference: Same
over powered, IMO.
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New ANB gives too much draw.
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New ANB gives too much draw.
+1. We don't need to give Genesis another D7.
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1. boring
2. might be used
3. same as what we already have with one small addition
4. OP way to much drawing.
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Confused languages hurts magicians alot cause they don't share the same book so manassah, any unique demons, and possibly Babylonians and Assyrians.
Wrestling can get out Angel at Shur promo, Seraphim(band to Blue), and Captain out.
A New Beginning can hurt you if you want to make a second attempt after each player shuffles and draws seven. Your opponent will have more cards in hand and could possibly get SoG and NJ to get two souls. So it is not OP to me.
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The way ANB is written now, no hands are shuffled, and only the person who plays it draws seven.
*EDIT to thread: odd post deleted*
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Confused languages hurts magicians alot cause they don't share the same book so manassah, any unique demons, and possibly Babylonians and Assyrians.
Wrestling can get out Angel at Shur promo, Seraphim(band to Blue), and Captain out.
A New Beginning can hurt you if you want to make a second attempt after each player shuffles and draws seven. Your opponent will have more cards in hand and could possibly get SoG and NJ to get two souls. So it is not OP to me.
Why would you even want to stop evil banding? I love it when I RA and my opponent bands. Just gives me inish for a battle winner. Seraphim isn't worth messing up Zeb & Benjamin. Angel @ Shur is okay, but you wouldn't really want to band him in. That leaves Captain who isn't staple anyway because he messes up Zeb & Benjamin. That card space would be better used for a battle winner or left out to shrink deck size. How is an automatic D7 + getting rid of their EC in an already fast and powerful offense not broken?
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ANB is still OP.
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Confused languages hurts magicians alot cause they don't share the same book so manassah, any unique demons, and possibly Babylonians and Assyrians.
Wrestling can get out Angel at Shur promo, Seraphim(band to Blue), and Captain out.
A New Beginning can hurt you if you want to make a second attempt after each player shuffles and draws seven. Your opponent will have more cards in hand and could possibly get SoG and NJ to get two souls. So it is not OP to me.
Why would you even want to stop evil banding? I love it when I RA and my opponent bands. Just gives me inish for a battle winner. Seraphim isn't worth messing up Zeb & Benjamin. Angel @ Shur is okay, but you wouldn't really want to band him in. That leaves Captain who isn't staple anyway because he messes up Zeb & Benjamin. That card space would be better used for a battle winner or left out to shrink deck size. How is an automatic D7 + getting rid of their EC in an already fast and powerful offense not broken?
You would want to stop evil banding to limit the amount of things your opponents can do and if needed win by the numbers since they can't band. Seraphim is a 5/4 and will allow you tto add another blue to the battle. Plus with New Beginning you shuffle all in batlle and both you and opponent draw seven, Plus it is negateable so KoT and others can stop it cold unless it is played on Benjamin.
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Confused languages hurts magicians alot cause they don't share the same book so manassah, any unique demons, and possibly Babylonians and Assyrians.
Wrestling can get out Angel at Shur promo, Seraphim(band to Blue), and Captain out.
A New Beginning can hurt you if you want to make a second attempt after each player shuffles and draws seven. Your opponent will have more cards in hand and could possibly get SoG and NJ to get two souls. So it is not OP to me.
Why would you even want to stop evil banding? I love it when I RA and my opponent bands. Just gives me inish for a battle winner. Seraphim isn't worth messing up Zeb & Benjamin. Angel @ Shur is okay, but you wouldn't really want to band him in. That leaves Captain who isn't staple anyway because he messes up Zeb & Benjamin. That card space would be better used for a battle winner or left out to shrink deck size. How is an automatic D7 + getting rid of their EC in an already fast and powerful offense not broken?
You would want to stop evil banding to limit the amount of things your opponents can do and if needed win by the numbers since they can't band. Seraphim is a 5/4 and will allow you tto add another blue to the battle. Plus with New Beginning you shuffle all in batlle and both you and opponent draw seven, Plus it is negateable so KoT and others can stop it cold unless it is played on Benjamin.
Why would you want to negate something that just let you D7?
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incase you had no ther ECs in territory or had used up all your evil enhancements. Why would you want to allow your opponents to draw more cards too.
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ANB is still OP.
+1. Especially with Gifts up. That'd be a D10
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Confused languages hurts magicians alot cause they don't share the same book so manassah, any unique demons, and possibly Babylonians and Assyrians.
Wrestling can get out Angel at Shur promo, Seraphim(band to Blue), and Captain out.
A New Beginning can hurt you if you want to make a second attempt after each player shuffles and draws seven. Your opponent will have more cards in hand and could possibly get SoG and NJ to get two souls. So it is not OP to me.
Why would you even want to stop evil banding? I love it when I RA and my opponent bands. Just gives me inish for a battle winner. Seraphim isn't worth messing up Zeb & Benjamin. Angel @ Shur is okay, but you wouldn't really want to band him in. That leaves Captain who isn't staple anyway because he messes up Zeb & Benjamin. That card space would be better used for a battle winner or left out to shrink deck size. How is an automatic D7 + getting rid of their EC in an already fast and powerful offense not broken?
Angel's do not affect Benjamin. It only matters that all your human heroes are genesis.
Benjamin (FF)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: 1 / 1 • Class: None • Special Ability: If all of your human Heroes in play are Genesis Heroes, Genesis Enhancements cannot be negated. Otherwise, discard Benjamin after battle. •
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Confused languages hurts magicians alot cause they don't share the same book so manassah, any unique demons, and possibly Babylonians and Assyrians.
Wrestling can get out Angel at Shur promo, Seraphim(band to Blue), and Captain out.
A New Beginning can hurt you if you want to make a second attempt after each player shuffles and draws seven. Your opponent will have more cards in hand and could possibly get SoG and NJ to get two souls. So it is not OP to me.
Why would you even want to stop evil banding? I love it when I RA and my opponent bands. Just gives me inish for a battle winner. Seraphim isn't worth messing up Zeb & Benjamin. Angel @ Shur is okay, but you wouldn't really want to band him in. That leaves Captain who isn't staple anyway because he messes up Zeb & Benjamin. That card space would be better used for a battle winner or left out to shrink deck size. How is an automatic D7 + getting rid of their EC in an already fast and powerful offense not broken?
Angel's do not affect Benjamin. It only matters that all your human heroes are genesis.
Benjamin (FF)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: 1 / 1 • Class: None • Special Ability: If all of your human Heroes in play are Genesis Heroes, Genesis Enhancements cannot be negated. Otherwise, discard Benjamin after battle. •
:doh:
guess I should read cards more carefully.
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Confused Languages and Wrestling with God would be cards with situational usage that I would never include in a type I deck. Creation of the World is essentially the same card just in blue, and I don't feel very strongly for or against it. ANB is overpowered, cards should not be drawing that much (especially not in a theme that is already so fast), plus we can't print ANB again or else it just get errata'd another 9001 times.
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ANB has been weakened majorly now.
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I still do not like it. make it so no one draws cards.
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It's a lot more balanced now, but not that great. Why use it over the real ANB?
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Well unlike the green ANB you get to keep your hand and cards in territory, plus draw three cards. Genesis Heroes can use it and it is possible to be CBI.
And on a side note, my improved Confused Languages stops dual brigade characters from banding and stops the panic demons or any other massive banding with multiple brigades. the only one protected is Gomer, unless hosea is in play.
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Also, as far as I know, no good Genesis Deck will run Seraphim (Warriors) either. Why stop one of the most OP Heroes for Genesis for another 'Band to Blue' card that is more of a waste then anything.
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Also, as far as I know, no good Genesis Deck will run Seraphim (Warriors) either. Why stop one of the most OP Heroes for Genesis for another 'Band to Blue' card that is more of a waste then anything.
I'd actually argue that Jacob is the best hero for Genesis, but I do agree that Seraphim is probably not worth using in a Genesis deck.
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Well, in my Genesis Deck, Jacob doesn't see to much play. Zeb is the most played (mostly because I can keep my hand quite small.)