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Title: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 05, 2011, 07:00:31 AM

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Place on your Philistine or Egyptian Site: You may add or remove a Lost Soul from that Site once during each discard phase. [A) Protect your Philistine and Egyptian Sites from opponents' cards.] [B) If your Philistine or Egyptian Evil Character is discarded, you may discard this instead.]

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: SomeKittens on June 05, 2011, 03:16:32 PM

One issue.  Hand/Deck discard LS.  I can add, remove, add, remove until your hand and deck is gone.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: Chronic Apathy on June 05, 2011, 03:22:07 PM

I'd change it to singular instead of all sites.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 05, 2011, 07:15:50 PM

Updated. Is that better?

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: Minister Polarius on June 05, 2011, 10:47:28 PM

I like it a lot! I wish this card were coming out next set, it would have fit perfectly.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: TheJaylor on June 05, 2011, 11:00:05 PM

Yeah this card looks awesome especially with Goliath coming out a lot of people will be using Philistines but I don't know if people would still be playing them a lot by the time it would be able to come to printing but who knows they might still be awesome.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 05, 2011, 11:35:13 PM

@ Pol - Yes, it would indeed have. ;)

In sad news, the special ability (like many of my ideas) is too long for a real card (I shrunk the font and it still took up 9 lines). As such, I've made up 2 different versions each using a different of the second and third original abilities. I think I like the EC one better, but I'll leave it up to others for comments/suggestions.

OR, I could make a version that has the protection of sites and the EC insteading and nothing about Lost Souls, if that would be more popular/useful.

"Protect your Philistine and Egyptian Sites from opponents' cards. If your Philistine or Egyptian Evil Character is discarded, you may discard this instead."

I'm open to suggestions.

EDIT: Third option added.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: SomeKittens on June 06, 2011, 03:40:55 PM

Third one doesn't have place on a site.  Other than that, I like it.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 06, 2011, 07:06:38 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on June 06, 2011, 03:40:55 PM

Third one doesn't have place on a site.  Other than that, I like it.

Seeing as it doesn't affect the Lost Soul anymore, I didn't see a reason to have the 3rd one still place itself on a site. Do you think it should?

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: Nameless on June 06, 2011, 07:34:53 PM

I like C the most

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: SomeKittens on June 06, 2011, 08:10:43 PM

Quote from: browarod on June 06, 2011, 07:06:38 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on June 06, 2011, 03:40:55 PM

Third one doesn't have place on a site.  Other than that, I like it.

Seeing as it doesn't affect the Lost Soul anymore, I didn't see a reason to have the 3rd one still place itself on a site. Do you think it should?

It means that I can use it without sites, and Draid doesn't kill it.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 06, 2011, 09:17:48 PM

Is it OP if DRaid can't kill it?

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: SomeKittens on June 06, 2011, 11:21:25 PM

It'd be in every Philli/Egyptian defense.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 06, 2011, 11:45:16 PM

Is that a bad thing?

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: TheHobbit13 on June 07, 2011, 12:17:33 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on June 06, 2011, 11:21:25 PM

It'd be in every Philli/Egyptian defense.

What is this Egyptian defense you speak of?

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: Professoralstad on June 07, 2011, 01:21:07 PM

Quote from: TheHobbit13 on June 07, 2011, 12:17:33 PM

What is this Egyptian defense you speak of?

You know, the one that most of the decks I've played with and against in the past few months uses... :o

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 07, 2011, 03:26:06 PM

So, yeah. I like C the best, but apparently it might be OP without the "place on site" part. Thoughts?

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: TheHobbit13 on June 07, 2011, 05:15:41 PM

 I think that an instead with Goliath might be too much. We will have to see though, but from what I have heard about the new set he might need it.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 07, 2011, 05:53:27 PM

The only one that doesn't have an instead for Goliath is the first one, which I'm afraid wouldn't get used much (definitely not for Philistines, who actually uses Ashdod?). The second one differs in that it would require you to have a Philistine site to put it on initially before you could instead for Goliath. Looking at Herod's Temple, I'm inclined to think a self-sacrificing, one-time instead of a specific themed (or, rather, one of 2 themes) character is okay balance-wise. If you think otherwise, feel free to point out where my thinking is flawed.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: Smokey on June 09, 2011, 04:40:46 PM

Egyptians need more fortresses, they only have 3 currently.

Title: Re: Fortress of Ashdod
Post by: browarod on June 09, 2011, 04:45:12 PM

Quote from: Smokey on June 09, 2011, 04:40:46 PM

Egyptians need more fortresses, they only have 3 currently.

So true. ;)