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Moar Philistines
« on: October 07, 2009, 06:51:23 PM »
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Philistine Mob
6/6 Black Evil Character
-Generic, Philistine-
"Discard a Female Philistine to Discard a Fortress or Site."
Judges 15:6

Delilah
6/6 Black Evil Character
-Female, Philistine-
"While Delilah remains in play, all of your Philistines are Immune to Judges and Warrior Class Heroes."
Judges 16:4

Philistine Prostitute
3/2 Black Evil Character
-Female, Philistine, Generic-
"You may Discard an Evil card from hand to Capture a Male, Human Hero."
Judges 16:1

Dagon
12/12 Orange/Black Evil Character
-Demon, Philistine-
"Protect your Philistines from Capture and Discard. May band with a Philistine."
Judges 16:23


And one more from Lambo:

Bringing War
3/3 Black Evil Enhancement
"If used by a Warrior Class Philistine, Interrupt the battle and band as many Warrior-Class Philistines (and/or Goliath) into battle as you choose. If there are at least four Evil Characters in battle, Negate Special Abilities on Heroes."
« Last Edit: October 07, 2009, 07:27:29 PM by Minister Polarius »
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 06:54:03 PM »
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delilah might be a little too OP'd... There are a LOT of warrior class heroes.

Other than that, great job!
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 06:55:32 PM »
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All this and no Goliath Ideas?

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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 06:57:19 PM »
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I made Delilah powerful, but not OP I think. There's no way to protect a Philistine from an AoCP bomb, AotL, or anything else except Holy Grail (but come on, Altar of Dagon?) except KotW, which is easily targeted itself. I mean she was responsible for the capture and death of the worlds strongest Judge/Warrior.

@Smokey, Goliath has been done to death. FbtN, defensive battle-challenges, make him WC, whatever. Making card ideas for Goliath at this point is like bringing a model of the solar system to a science fair.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 07:11:36 PM »
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I made Delilah powerful, but not OP I think. There's no way to protect a Philistine from an AoCP bomb, AotL, or anything else except Holy Grail (but come on, Altar of Dagon?) except KotW, which is easily targeted itself. I mean she was responsible for the capture and death of the worlds strongest Judge/Warrior.

@Smokey, Goliath has been done to death. FbtN, defensive battle-challenges, make him WC, whatever. Making card ideas for Goliath at this point is like bringing a model of the solar system to a science fair.

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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 09:33:24 PM »
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Philistine Mob
6/6 Black Evil Character
-Generic, Philistine-
"Discard a Female Philistine to Discard a Fortress or Site."
Judges 15:6

Delilah
6/6 Black Evil Character
-Female, Philistine-
"While Delilah remains in play, all of your Philistines are Immune to Judges and Warrior Class Heroes."
Judges 16:4

Philistine Prostitute
3/2 Black Evil Character
-Female, Philistine, Generic-
"You may Discard an Evil card from hand to Capture a Male, Human Hero."
Judges 16:1


Dagon
12/12 Orange/Black Evil Character
-Demon, Philistine-
"Protect your Philistines from Capture and Discard. May band with a Philistine."
Judges 16:23


And one more from Lambo:

Bringing War
3/3 Black Evil Enhancement
"If used by a Warrior Class Philistine, Interrupt the battle and band as many Warrior-Class Philistines (and/or Goliath) into battle as you choose. If there are at least four Evil Characters in battle, Negate Special Abilities on Heroes."


Love those two. Right now with TeP, I think that if this came out everybody would be playing philly's lol but I did it just so i can try and learn more of the combo's and stuff
I would def put bringing war in my deck for sure. Dagon too.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 09:49:02 PM »
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Yeah... but they have Philistine Outpost. To give them protection AND philistine Outpost... I don't know if anyone would use another brigade.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 11:03:37 PM »
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Delilah, Philistine Prostitute, and Dagon are all OP IMO.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2009, 10:20:46 PM »
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dagon just plain fails

outpost just plain wyns
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2009, 10:36:21 PM »
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Delilah, Philistine Prostitute, and Dagon are all OP IMO.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2009, 12:07:56 AM »
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Philistine Prostitute
3/2 Black Evil Character
-Female, Philistine, Generic-
"You may Discard an Evil card from hand to Capture a Male, Human Hero."
Judges 16:1
I know I've seen this card idea before. Personally, I don't think Philistines need another character-battle-winner who can be recurred via Outpost.

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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2009, 11:31:02 AM »
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Currently, Philistine's biggest weakness is FbtN. I want to accentuate that with the new cards.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2009, 11:35:29 AM »
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Is that what the game is trying to do? Accentuate a single weakness of every theme? I thought we were trying to make each theme balanced.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2009, 11:37:01 AM »
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It is. Philistines are buck awesome, but weak to FbtN. Brown laughs at FbtN, but they get spanked by TGT. Making each brigade more powerful, but more fallible is a good way to combat power creep.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2009, 11:58:29 AM »
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blaack isn't that bad when used with sites vs FBTN land dispute as a territory enh is so wyn
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2009, 03:39:05 PM »
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That's sites though, not exactly black. Any time you add sites to the equation it changes dynamics.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2009, 04:20:03 PM »
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Black is week to fbtn? Twelve Fingered Giant? Bringing Fear? Sisera? Simon the Magician?

Black is great against fbtn.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2009, 04:36:36 PM »
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Sisera is only good against Moses, and Simon against TSA. Many Black defenses (including mine) don't use them. 12FG isn't good against FbtN, only FbtNB.

Bringing Fear is a fantastic counter to FbtN, but it works only once and isn't guaranteed to stop them. Other than that, Black has a hard time answering FbtN.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2009, 04:45:09 PM »
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How many people use fbtn without banding? I always use banding... which means....

Sisera is also good against Israelite archer, Heldai, and Asahel.
Twelve fingered giant pwns.

Also... They have high characters. A typical non-banding fbtn hero is 8/8, meaning he has to play two multi-enhancements (except sword of the spirit) to match the twelve-fingered giant's 12 defense. Then you can still play bringing fear, babble, land dispute, foolish advice, devourer, and other that all have 3 or more defense.

Overall I'd say it's actually the best against fbtn... well... other than gray.

Brown is nice... but Haman's Plot you have to rip, and dungeon can only be played on king Z. And no one really uses korah with banding.
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2009, 05:00:35 PM »
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dungeon can only be played on king Z

That's not true, dungeon can be played on anyone.  With King Z, it is CBN.  A Pole....

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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2009, 08:40:21 PM »
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How many people use fbtn without banding? I always use banding... which means....

Sisera is also good against Israelite archer, Heldai, and Asahel.
Twelve fingered giant pwns.

Also... They have high characters. A typical non-banding fbtn hero is 8/8, meaning he has to play two multi-enhancements (except sword of the spirit) to match the twelve-fingered giant's 12 defense. Then you can still play bringing fear, babble, land dispute, foolish advice, devourer, and other that all have 3 or more defense.

Overall I'd say it's actually the best against fbtn... well... other than gray.

Brown is nice... but Haman's Plot you have to rip, and dungeon can only be played on king Z. And no one really uses korah with banding.

What Grey Defense are your referring to?

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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2009, 05:36:10 PM »
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Naaman, balaam's disobedience, unsuccessful, expelling the jews, the terrifying beast, namaan's chariot and horses (against warrior class), and I believe a few others. It works very well.

Cameron, yes of course but I was saying that in the context of against fbtn. It would only do anything on king zedekiah cause otherwise it's negated.

And A-pole works for every brigade.  ;)
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Re: Moar Philistines
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2009, 11:48:59 PM »
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blaack isn't that bad when used with sites vs FBTN land dispute as a territory enh is so wyn

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