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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: BubbleBoy on February 26, 2009, 10:25:13 PM
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I thought Demons needed a protection fortress to give 'em a boost...
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Any comments/suggestions?
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Great as always BB
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I also like it. However, the artifact ability is quite powerful. What would this increase the theoretical artifact count to?
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Very well put together and thought out! I like the condition of having a human EC in play to make it work. Makes me want to splash Judas into a deck that uses this. ;) The ability to hold an Artifact is very powerful but it really ties with the theme of Orange. :) You did an excellent job putting the card together. It looks like an original. I think the brown boarder looks really cool too.
The only thing I might change is the title. I'm not sure what I'd use instead but it seems like there might be an option that's a little more creative.
Well done! :thumbup:
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The Unsaved Soul. IDK, just thought of it.
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I REALLY like it. They should make a card of this. It looks like you've put lots of thought into it, and the result is great! :thumbup: What i think would have made it a little cooler would be the ability to hold either an artifact or a curse. But that's just me ;)
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It will hold a Curse as long as that curse depicts and idol. Presently both Unknown Nation and Captured Ark qualify. :)
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Its ability to hold so many great artifacts would probably make it a shoe-in in most decks.
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What i think would have made it a little cooler would be the ability to hold either an artifact or a curse. But that's just me ;)
Depicting an Idol is a great little section in the REG that really allows this card to shine in the Orange arsenal.
from the REG:
Depicting an Idol
Several Redemption® cards contain special abilities that refer to cards that “depict an idol.” The following cards refer to cards that depict an idol:
• Demon behind the Idol, Pagan Priest, Unbowed, Worshipping Demons, and Worshipper of False Gods
This includes the following cards:
• Altar of Dagon, Asherah Pole, Captured Ark, Golden Calf, Household Idols, Jacob Buries the Foreign gods, Jeroboam's Idolatry, and Unknown Nation
Other Redemption® cards contain special abilities that refer to cards that “depict an idol or evil altar.” The following cards refer to cards that depict an idol or evil altar:
• Pagan Priest and Worshipping Demons
The following cards depict an idol or evil altar:
• Altar of Ahaz, Altar of Dagon, Asherah Pole, Captured Ark, Golden Calf, Household Idols, Jacob Buries the Foreign gods, Jeroboam's Idolatry, and Unknown Nation
oh wow, the evil orange thoughts that come to mind using this fortress with an Art depicting an idol activated in it......*maniacal snicker is heard fading into the underground deck building lair*
Godspeed,
Mike
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I think this should be a real card as well. Great Job on making such a cool card!
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I really like it except to counter the possibility people will just throw it into their decks for non demon purposes, perhaps add discard this fortress if you do not control an orange brigade demon
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It's no different than people using Z's Temple in a deck without Priests. It happens. It's not a big deal.
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Thanks guys for all your comments. ;D
The only thing I might change is the title. I'm not sure what I'd use instead but it seems like there might be an option that's a little more creative.
I wanted to make it a temple because of ZT. If someone had a Priest/Demon deck, I wouldn't want them to be able to have, like, Assyria's Tribute, Unknown Nation, and Lampstand up all at once, you know? I agree it could be more creative....Does Temple of Demons roll off the tongue any better?...
I really like it except to counter the possibility people will just throw it into their decks for non demon purposes, perhaps add discard this fortress if you do not control an orange brigade demon
I thought of that as well, but I couldn't think of a really good way to counter it....When you think about it though, I don't think it maters too much. :dunno:
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I'm thinking the holding Artifacts part is a bit over kill. I'm not sold on the fact that it is a Fortress either because there wasn't ever a temple that was dedicated to worshiping demons, at least not from where you took the Scripture. I very much like the special ability though. It fits excellently with the Scripture. Maybe it would be a good candidate for a placed Enhancement rather than a Fortress. You could call it Demon Worship.
"Place this on your human Evil Character. While there, protect your demons from being discarded by an opponent."
or maybe
"Set aside a human Evil Character. While set aside, protect your demons from being discarded."
Either way I think you did a really good job.
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Revelation 18:2
[2] And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
This passage could possibly help with a name change, if you are intereseted.
I'm not sold on the fact that it is a Fortress either because there wasn't ever a temple that was dedicated to worshiping demons, at least not from where you took the Scripture.
I would argue that any "Temple" that was used to worship idols, sacrifice to devils and false gods and such, could be labeled a "Demonic Temple" (generic). :D
Godspeed,
Mike
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I would argue that any "Temple" that was used to worship idols, sacrifice to devils and false gods and such, could be labeled a "Demonic Temple"
I might agree with that if it was even clear that they were sacrificing in a temple at all. In looking at the Scripture it isn't clear where or how they were sacrificing to the demons. That's why I suggested that it might work better as a placement Enhancement.
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If this became a card, good luck getting past Lampstand + Asherah Pole + Unholy Writ + Household Idols.
Kirk
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Green Prophet + Hidden Treasures + Sword of the Lord => brown Evil Character + Crucify Him or Roman Evil Character + Romans Destroy Jerusalem
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Well duh, but the majority of decks don't include Crucify Him or Romans Destroy Jerusalem.
Kirk
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LOVE IT!
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If this became a card, good luck getting past Lampstand + Asherah Pole + Unholy Writ + Household Idols.
If you are implying someone having both this and ZT in their territory, I don't think you read all of ZT's ability...or all of this thread.
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It would never get used. +2 to your score> D.cing 2 ls.
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I thought Bubbleboy was right... but then I looked and saw that Z-temple only allows one GOOD temple. You could still have Z-temple and his card.
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I thought Bubbleboy was right... but then I looked and saw that Z-temple only allows one GOOD temple. You could still have Z-temple and his card.
Right. I'd add "Discard all Temples and Tabernacles in your territory" at the end.
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Oh yeah...that does sound like a good idea...and kind of makes sense, too.
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Okay, I have a slightly new version of the card; see if it's any better...
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I think I would say "...all good temples..." so that it doesn't discard other players' Sacrifcing Unto Devils.
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I think I would say "...all good temples..." so that it doesn't discard other players' Sacrifcing Unto Devils.
Ah, I meant to take the "other" out, since "Demonic Temple" isn't even a temple any more; it's "Sacrificing Unto Devils."
thats even better! lol does it discard opponents temples only? or everyones?
Actually, my initial thought was to make it discard just your own, since otherwise it would be a little OP. (I mean, ZT strategy would be completely destroyed just like that.)
So, how about this SA: "Discard all temples in your territory. While you have a human EC in play, protect demons in your territory from discard."
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Nice. I actually like that it functions as an offensive card by taking out your opponent's Temples, but I'm not sure if that makes sense for the card. Either way, though. :)
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I like the second one better...
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use the wording "discard all temples in your territory"
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Okay, how about this:
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aaaaaaaaand why? You would say that about any card
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Very nice. :)