Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: ArmedKevin117 on February 23, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
Title: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 23, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
Post your custom cards here or PM them to me to submit them for approval in the Custom Variant. If I post them in the Approved Cards thread here, http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/new-card-ideas/custom-variant-approved-cards/msg464906/#msg464906 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/new-card-ideas/custom-variant-approved-cards/msg464906/#msg464906), you can print them out and use them at the Custom side-event in upcoming tournaments.
I'm going to start putting down deck building rules for the Custom Variant. Simply put, it's type one, but you cannot use anything from the Priests expansion or newer expansions. If you don't like it, post why and we'll discuss. To allow for orange or teal cards, here's the rule: orange enhancements gain the identifier "may be played on any demon" and teal enhancements gain the identifier "may be played on any priest."
A quick note, since not all custom card will have a Bible reference, the O/N.T reference, that particular identifier is instead determined chronologically.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Jmbeers on February 23, 2012, 11:50:48 PM
I think if you want this to be taken seriously, you shouldn't start out with approving a bunch of Halo cards.
I think Polarius is correct. There should be a set of guidelines for what cards can and can't be accepted. The guidelines would make the possibility of actually seeing these cards seem possible. This discretion would incline people to take the process seriously.
These three would be a good starting point.
1. several people being willing to vote a card in. This could be done by requiring a certain # of +1's on the card once it's posted on this thread.
2. Must be Biblically based
3. A card creator should let the card be discussed and tweaked accordingly based on suggestions in their original thread.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: lp670sv on February 23, 2012, 11:54:15 PM
I see nothing wrong with having non-biblically based cards in a for fun, never going to be an official event, probably one time thing, category.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Minister Polarius on February 24, 2012, 01:23:40 AM
Yeah, I'm not saying they should be biblical-only. It's your deal, do whatever you want. I just wanted to make you aware that if people see that the first batch of cards are from halo, they'll be disinclined to take the project seriously.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 25, 2012, 12:15:20 AM
Well, that's what this thread is for. First, the idea of the Custom Variant is to allow for more creativity than the core them of Redemption does now. The only reason the first approved cards were Halo based was because, being the pioneer of the idea, I had those cards to put in. No, the category is not official, per say. John has, however stated that he will allow me to run it as a side event at his tournaments in the future. The point of this thread is for discussion, as the title says. As for the criteria, I came up with this as a way for people to try different ideas, and I want to leave it open to allow for that. At this point, I will accept or reject cards on the sole basis of whether they seem too powerful or not (see my removal of the Halo dominant from the approved thread). Submit, discuss, and have fun with it. (Also, please remove your comments from the Approved Cards thread. That's not what it's there for.)
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Asahel24601 on February 25, 2012, 10:08:27 AM
Does this mean I can dust off the byzantine cards?
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Jmbeers on February 25, 2012, 02:10:36 PM
Does this mean I can dust off the byzantine cards?
Ouch ;D
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Asahel24601 on February 25, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
but I did start them a while back....
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 25, 2012, 04:50:14 PM
Not bad, I like it. Do you have a set of those?
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Asahel24601 on February 25, 2012, 10:55:26 PM
I lost that notebook
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 26, 2012, 12:02:54 AM
Oh, well. Keep ideas rolling, at least.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: JSB23 on February 26, 2012, 12:49:08 AM
Paintings of Abominations (reprint) (Sorry for the low quality art, couldn't find a higher res scan of the original card.)
Witch of Endor (reprint)
Magic Trick
Greed
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 26, 2012, 01:47:12 AM
You could always find a different picture for Paintings. Pretty neat idea for it, though.
Witch has an interesting idea, gonna make a House at Endor fortress? And why does she have the territory icon?
Magic Trick is also interesting, though you don't need to make the exception for Simon, since he was a magician anyway.
Greed seems designed to kill speed decks... consider a name that doesn't sound like it should be an enhancement.
And to everyone, something else that needs to be nailed down, the deck building rules for the Custom Variant. Right now I'm thinking normal Type 1 rules, but you can't use Priests cards or newer, since from what I've seen a lot of the more powerful "immediate" strategies come from there, and this is supposed to be for creativity, not instant wins. Feedback?
And while I'm here, I'll put up another idea;
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: JSB23 on February 26, 2012, 11:12:55 AM
Magic Trick is also interesting, though you don't need to make the exception for Simon, since he was a magician anyway.
Once the card creator can handle bi-colored cards Simon is getting a reprint
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 26, 2012, 05:30:09 PM
Yeah, I've heard about that idea... but seeing how many characters are really powerful with their abilities happening in-battle, I don't think we really need that. And what do you think of my Dragon card?
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Jmbeers on February 26, 2012, 05:35:53 PM
If your interested in dragons you would probably like these.
Post your custom cards here or PM them to me to submit them for approval in the Custom Variant. If I post them in the Approved Cards thread, you can print them out and use them at the Custom side-event in upcoming tournaments.
I'm assuming this is just for your region? If yes, what's the incentive for the rest of us (not in your area) to submit ideas?
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 27, 2012, 02:21:07 PM
Who's to say you can't run it in your own area? I'm not copyrighting it.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 28, 2012, 06:51:03 PM
Added to approved thread. Were you going to change the Heroic Cataphract?
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on February 29, 2012, 11:19:05 PM
Alright, new problem. Any submitted cards need to be from an account for the card creator so they have a smaller url. Also, would the people who posted in the approved cards topic please remove your posts, as they are on the wrong thread.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Asahel24601 on March 01, 2012, 03:51:29 PM
I used the photo bucket url, is this small enough? http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc431/Asahel24601/Byzantines/Cataphract3.jpg
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 01, 2012, 06:46:27 PM
Yeah, that'll do. I also need you to do that with the other cards you submitted.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Asahel24601 on March 01, 2012, 07:41:27 PM
I already did
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 01, 2012, 09:04:59 PM
Approved thread updated. Who's next?
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Asahel24601 on March 01, 2012, 10:12:10 PM
The d2 Cataphract is on there twice
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 01, 2012, 10:19:32 PM
Thanks for the catch. Fixed.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 02, 2012, 06:34:07 PM
Okay... but what's with that second Cataphract? Needs something to differentiate in the name.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: SomeKittens on March 06, 2012, 10:40:29 PM
Satan Released Orange TC Place on your Demon. Protect demon from opponent's dominants, and that demon's ability cannot be negated.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 06, 2012, 10:57:50 PM
->Asahel: Nice, it's in. ->SomeKittens: http://academy.redemptionconnect.com/cards/design (http://academy.redemptionconnect.com/cards/design)
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: SomeKittens on March 06, 2012, 11:19:26 PM
I'm lazy.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 07, 2012, 12:00:45 AM
I'm going to start putting down deck building rules for the Custom Variant. Simply put, it's type one, but you cannot use anything from Priests or newer. If you don't like it, post why and we'll discuss. To allow for orange or teal cards, here's the rule: orange enhancements gain the identifier "may be played on any demon" and teal enhancements gain the identifier "may be played on any priest."
Sog is starters. Priests and after removes Sog, Nj ,AotL, GoYS, FA, Burial, and CM.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 09, 2012, 11:15:36 PM
Ah. Clarification, then. Expansions Priests and after. That means Priests, FooF/RoA, TexP, and Disciples. That means the only excluded dominants are Grapes and Mayhem.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Bobbert on March 09, 2012, 11:17:10 PM
Why no priests? And what about promos?
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 09, 2012, 11:35:54 PM
I want to keep it simple. As previously stated in the thread, the C.V. is about people's ideas, not the established strategies. Basically the exclusion is in place to cut out some of the "strategy inflation", if that makes sense. Promos are sort of self-pruning. The ones that only work with newer strategies wouldn't make it into a deck anyway, so they shouldn't be a problem.
(Also, in my last post, I forgot Doubt as a dominant that would be excluded.)
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Asahel24601 on March 10, 2012, 08:30:07 PM
Sorry, I read it wrong.
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: Jmbeers on March 11, 2012, 05:07:39 AM
You do realize the above dude is being protected from almost every enhancement in the game?
Title: Re: Custom Variant Card Submission/Discussion
Post by: ArmedKevin117 on March 11, 2012, 05:23:38 PM