Author Topic: Choose Your Punishment and The Punishing Angel (Read 3836 times)

stefferweffer · « **on:** September 01, 2010, 05:55:17 PM »

"Choose your punishment"
0/0 Silver Hero Enhancement

Opponent must choose one:

1) Opponent may not make a rescue attempt for the next 3 turns.
2) Player of this enhancement discards up to 3 heroes of opponent, regardless of protection.
3) Player of this enhancement may discard 3 cards at random from opponent's hand.

Limited to once per game.

"either three years of famine, or three months to be swept away by your foes, while the sword of your enemies overtakes you, or else three days of the sword of the Lord, even pestilence in the land, and the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the territory of Israel.' Now, therefore, consider what answer I shall return to Him who sent me." 1 Chron.21:12

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The Punishing Angel
12/6 Silver Warrior-class Unique Male Hero

"Cannot be blocked by royalty. Silver weapon-class enhancements cannot be negated. May play "Choose Your Punishment" from hand."

"And the Lord commanded the angel, and he put his sword back in its sheath." 1 Chron.21:27

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2010, 06:01:29 PM »

Ooh, cool. Super-OP, but cool.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #2 on:** September 01, 2010, 06:17:17 PM »

Powerful yes, but if you noticed it is NOT a battle-winner.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #3 on:** September 01, 2010, 06:20:25 PM »

No, but:

Option one is pretty much never going to be picked. Option two is the least powerful, but the regardless of protection makes it devastating. The third option will almost never be picked. So basically, what you've got is a 12/6 Silver Hero who Ignores royalty, either plays first or CBN Negates Immunity, and Discards 3 Heroes CBN regardless of Protection, with no drawback. That's OP.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #4 on:** September 01, 2010, 06:29:08 PM »

I sort of see your point. I assume you mean with "Michael's Sword" about the "immunity" part? I removed the CBN portion of the playing Choose Your Punishment from hand, to alleviate some concerns. In the context God Himself relented, so it doesn't fit real well anyway.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2010, 06:35:12 PM »

Still powerful, but not OP. Good card.

The Warrior · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2010, 06:36:58 PM »

that was interesting

JSB23 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2010, 08:00:33 PM »

I would add
"Remove all cards in battle from the game to...."
to Choose your punishment but either way it's an awesome card

TheJaylor · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2010, 08:03:44 PM »

i like it. it should also be green as well as silver or else you could have duplicates in a deck.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2010, 09:30:59 PM »

I thought about green as well, but went with once per game instead. Hidden Treasures and this card frightens me for some reason.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #10 on:** September 01, 2010, 09:36:53 PM »

i don't like it
it's too overpowered and it's most likely to get the banhammer first cause if someone was to play it against me, it would make me wanna just quit the game right then and there

drb1200 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2010, 09:40:17 PM »

Quote from: New Raven BR on September 01, 2010, 09:36:53 PM

i don't like it
it's too overpowered and it's most likely to get the banhammer first cause if someone was to play it against me, it would make me wanna just quit the game right then and there

As does every card.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2010, 09:41:56 PM »

that's uncalled for drb

joeycauldron · « **Reply #13 on:** September 02, 2010, 08:12:25 PM »

It has a uniqe special ability. Just because of that fact and there aren't that many silver cards that are being used, I would say that it is OK.

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #14 on:** September 02, 2010, 08:34:41 PM »

Quote from: drb1200 on September 01, 2010, 09:40:17 PM

Quote from: New Raven BR on September 01, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
i don't like it
it's too overpowered and it's most likely to get the banhammer first cause if someone was to play it against me, it would make me wanna just quit the game right then and there
As does every card.

I LOVE YOU DRB!!!!!

New Raven BR · « **Reply #15 on:** September 02, 2010, 08:37:00 PM »

Quote from: xCaLeBx on September 02, 2010, 08:34:41 PM

Quote from: drb1200 on September 01, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: New Raven BR on September 01, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
i don't like it
it's too overpowered and it's most likely to get the banhammer first cause if someone was to play it against me, it would make me wanna just quit the game right then and there
As does every card.
I LOVE YOU DRB!!!!!

well why don't you marry him?

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #16 on:** September 02, 2010, 08:38:38 PM »

Quote from: New Raven BR on September 02, 2010, 08:37:00 PM

Quote from: xCaLeBx on September 02, 2010, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: drb1200 on September 01, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: New Raven BR on September 01, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
i don't like it
it's too overpowered and it's most likely to get the banhammer first cause if someone was to play it against me, it would make me wanna just quit the game right then and there
As does every card.
I LOVE YOU DRB!!!!!
well why don't you marry him?

because I don't date men.

drb1200 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 02, 2010, 09:44:09 PM »

Quote from: New Raven BR on September 02, 2010, 08:37:00 PM

Quote from: xCaLeBx on September 02, 2010, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: drb1200 on September 01, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: New Raven BR on September 01, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
i don't like it
it's too overpowered and it's most likely to get the banhammer first cause if someone was to play it against me, it would make me wanna just quit the game right then and there
As does every card.
I LOVE YOU DRB!!!!!
well why don't you marry him?

See, THAT was uncalled for.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #18 on:** September 02, 2010, 11:36:40 PM »

Quote from: drb1200 on September 02, 2010, 09:44:09 PM

Quote from: New Raven BR on September 02, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
Quote from: xCaLeBx on September 02, 2010, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: drb1200 on September 01, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: New Raven BR on September 01, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
i don't like it
it's too overpowered and it's most likely to get the banhammer first cause if someone was to play it against me, it would make me wanna just quit the game right then and there
As does every card.
I LOVE YOU DRB!!!!!
well why don't you marry him?
See, THAT was uncalled for.

you wouldn't know uncalled for even if it bit you in the rear end

JSB23 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 02, 2010, 11:53:09 PM »

Quote

This thread is provocative

New Raven BR · « **Reply #20 on:** September 02, 2010, 11:54:39 PM »

whatever you say colin

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #21 on:** September 03, 2010, 11:03:57 AM »

Raven this picture defines your life:

JSB23 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 03, 2010, 01:02:04 PM »

Now that was uncalled for

Red · « **Reply #23 on:** September 03, 2010, 05:01:09 PM »

Quote from: New Raven BR on September 02, 2010, 08:37:00 PM

Quote from: xCaLeBx on September 02, 2010, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: drb1200 on September 01, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: New Raven BR on September 01, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
i don't like it
it's too overpowered and it's most likely to get the banhammer first cause if someone was to play it against me, it would make me wanna just quit the game right then and there
As does every card.
I LOVE YOU DRB!!!!!
well why don't you marry him?

Can it.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #24 on:** September 03, 2010, 06:21:22 PM »

Andy, Please stop flaming and before someone goes "He started it". I don't care who started it. Just stop it. Be the bigger man and stop it. As for you who are trying to upset Andy (you know who you are), Stop baiting him as well. As for this card, I like ability 1 and Ability 3 but a silver enhancement that kills HEROES? That seems wrong.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #25 on:** September 03, 2010, 08:35:51 PM »

Perhaps set aside 3 heroes for 3 turns then. Keep in mind that this was a punishment from God to DAVID.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #26 on:** September 03, 2010, 08:53:36 PM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on September 03, 2010, 08:35:51 PM

Perhaps set aside 3 heroes for 3 turns then. Keep in mind that this was a punishment from God to DAVID.

I'm aware but it is God's punishment because of David's EVIL acts.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #27 on:** September 03, 2010, 10:58:20 PM »

But his evil acts had consequences for other innocent people (heroes). I guess I don't see how else you could have a card that represents God chastizing otherwise good people, which happens quite a bit in the bible. You can't have it be an evil card of course. And it shouldn't be something that a hero volunteers for, like set aside enhancements. Sometimes God punishes good people for their sins. You can't get around this. So if we start a precedent for allowing this I think we are on strong scriptural ground. After all, if the person doesn't like option 2 then they should choose something else

Ironica · « **Reply #28 on:** September 03, 2010, 11:21:32 PM »

Biblically, no one is a "good" person. It is only by the merÇy of God that we are still alive and are allowed to call him Abba

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #29 on:** September 03, 2010, 11:32:35 PM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on September 03, 2010, 10:58:20 PM

But his evil acts had consequences for other innocent people (heroes). I guess I don't see how else you could have a card that represents God chastizing otherwise good people, which happens quite a bit in the bible. You can't have it be an evil card of course. And it shouldn't be something that a hero volunteers for, like set aside enhancements. Sometimes God punishes good people for their sins. You can't get around this. So if we start a precedent for allowing this I think we are on strong scriptural ground. After all, if the person doesn't like option 2 then they should choose something else

They were punished for his acts but my issue was more with the rule of heroes and good enhancements don't hurt other heroes.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #30 on:** September 03, 2010, 11:43:09 PM »

Sorry. I was unaware of that rule. If that is true then yes we have a problem, because it is basically stopping the Potter from being able to do what He wishes with the clay. I'd rather not have to introduce a whole new class of "Punishment" cards. If we only focus only on God's mercy and do not acknowledge that He rebukes and chastens those that He loves, then an important facet of our Savior is missing from this game

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #31 on:** September 03, 2010, 11:45:16 PM »

I can see this being a legitimate reason to break that rule Biblically speaking. Plus I'm tickled as punch at the prospect of having another auto-block with Reheboam.

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Author Topic: Choose Your Punishment and The Punishing Angel (Read 3836 times)

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