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Apocryphal cards.
« on: March 09, 2009, 08:42:33 PM »
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'Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him." These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.' Jude 1:14-16

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Come on, if we can make heroes from angel wars names...
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Re: Apocryphal cards.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2009, 11:40:36 PM »
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Interesting Ideas I really like the concept of Book of Enoch, though I really dont like the card  :P
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Re: Apocryphal cards.
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 11:45:06 PM »
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Well, this was more of a statement that if we can have Angel War cards, we should at least have the other two archangels.
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Re: Apocryphal cards.
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 01:57:59 AM »
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What they should really do is make cards out of the Apostolic Fathers and use Eusebius as a reference. If we can cite Josephus for the Emperors, I see no reason why we couldn't use The History of the Church as a reference.

Think of it. Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Polycarp, James the Righteous... mmm. Great card possibilities. ;D
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 02:04:43 AM »
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What they should really do is make cards out of the Apostolic Fathers and use Eusebius as a reference. If we can cite Josephus for the Emperors, I see no reason why we couldn't use The History of the Church as a reference.

Think of it. Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Polycarp, James the Righteous... mmm. Great card possibilities. ;D
We have Saint Patrick.

Honestly though, having the four archangels would be SO MUCH FUN!

Perhaps there could be a way to get them to all work together, a kind of "hero-light".
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Re: Apocryphal cards.
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2009, 02:17:59 AM »
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I think Pol was working on a set based on the Early Church Fathers.

Polycarp,...

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Re: Apocryphal cards.
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2009, 02:23:30 AM »
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Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.  I get it.  Carp.  Ha. 

Or is there some historical reference I have not heard.

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2009, 02:26:01 AM »
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Polycarp: a form of Dagonism involving god-cloning.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2009, 02:34:29 AM »
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I think Pol was working on a set based on the Early Church Fathers.

Polycarp,...

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2009, 03:35:12 AM »
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Or is there some historical reference I have not heard.

Ben got it. Polycarp was a fairly useless Pokémon character from the beginnings of that CCG. I collected when I was little. ;)
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2009, 04:36:16 AM »
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Or is there some historical reference I have not heard.

Ben got it. Polycarp was a fairly useless Pokémon character from the beginnings of that CCG. I collected when I was little. ;)

Haha, shows how bad we are at Pokemon. After a quick wikipedia check I found Polycarp doesn't exist. Poliwag exists, Magikarp (the useless fish) exist, but there isn't a Polycarp.

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2009, 08:54:49 AM »
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Or is there some historical reference I have not heard.

Ben got it. Polycarp was a fairly useless Pokémon character from the beginnings of that CCG. I collected when I was little. ;)

It was Magikarp actually.  :P

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Re: Apocryphal cards.
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2009, 10:36:21 AM »
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I like your ideas Colin, but I would say that the Angel Wars cards should not have been made in the first place (the one's that are not biblical in origin) and that other cards that are not from the scriptures like St.Patrick and those based on non-biblical historians. The problem is that they were made, so does the game continue down that path or reverse direction? I think the Angel Wars thing was to attract younger players. The St.Patrick thing was done to attract Catholic players. And perhaps the non-biblical historian thing was done to attract people who don't consider the bible valid. Wow...at what point did I begin joking...LOL...I can't tell now...

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2009, 10:48:48 AM »
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Well Catholics consider the apocrypha scripture and Rob is Catholic so I dont see a big problem in using the intertestemental books. 

I mean, I think it is better than St. Patrick but we already went there so...
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2009, 10:51:22 AM »
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So if we already went somewhere that perhaps we should have not then we can just continue going there? I am a little confused. Or are you saying it was no big deal then and it is still no big deal now?

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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2009, 11:59:19 AM »
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Well, I'm not saying we should make an apocryphal "set". Printing the other two archangels is no where near this; I mean, we have Nero (who isn't specifically named in the Bible but appears none the less).
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2009, 12:05:03 PM »
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I think both (some of) the Apocrypha and the Early Church Fathers could lead to some interesting cards. If we were voting, I would probably side with T-Lah and go with the early church fathers, although adding a WC Macabee or two would be fun.

I get it.  Carp.  Ha. 

Or is there some historical reference I have not heard.
There was no other reference intended. It was late and I was being silly.

The extended "haha..." was a sardonic jibe at myself for being so goofy.

"Sardonic Jibe" would be a good name for a band.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2009, 12:10:12 PM »
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In my opinion, cards should be printed from the Book of Enoch. However, I don't think the book itself should be a card.

Philistine giants would get a real boost, too!

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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2009, 07:41:07 PM »
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Haha, shows how bad we are at Pokemon. After a quick wikipedia check I found Polycarp doesn't exist. Poliwag exists, Magikarp (the useless fish) exist, but there isn't a Polycarp.

lol, fail for me. Poliwag does evolve into Magikarp, though, right? Am I at least slightly justified in the conflation of the two? :P
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2009, 08:04:10 PM »
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Poliwag does evolve into Magikarp, though, right? Am I at least slightly justified in the conflation of the two? :P

Ummmm...... no.

Poliwag -> Poliwhirl -> Poliwrath (or Politoed, your choice)

Magikarp -> Gyarados
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2009, 10:22:20 PM »
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Thanks for ruining my dignity, YMT.

Then again, I guess I shouldn't feel too bad about not remembering my Pokémon. ;)
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2009, 09:26:36 AM »
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Thanks for ruining my dignity, YMT.

The 40-year-old recites the exact evolution line of two Pokemon and you're the one who lost dignity?
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2009, 11:17:05 AM »
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I think both (some of) the Apocrypha and the Early Church Fathers could lead to some interesting cards. If we were voting, I would probably side with T-Lah and go with the early church fathers, although adding a WC Macabee or two would be fun.

I get it.  Carp.  Ha. 

Or is there some historical reference I have not heard.
There was no other reference intended. It was late and I was being silly.

The extended "haha..." was a sardonic jibe at myself for being so goofy.

"Sardonic Jibe" would be a good name for a band.

Odd.  I thought it was more of a Sardinic Jibe.   :P


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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2009, 02:20:15 PM »
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Thanks for ruining my dignity, YMT.

The 40-year-old recites the exact evolution line of two Pokemon and you're the one who lost dignity?
Least he didn't list what lvls/Stones are needed to evolve.
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2009, 03:54:48 PM »
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Least he didn't list what lvls/Stones are needed to evolve.

Poliwhirl needs a King's Rock to become Politoed. Poliwhirl becomes Poliwrath at level 25, otherwise. Magikarp becomes Gyarados at level 20.

The 40-year-old recites the exact evolution line of two Pokemon and you're the one who lost dignity?

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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2009, 02:41:12 PM »
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Couple of things, first I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of cards based off of the Apocrypha or Early Church Fathers. Might be intersting. However, I'm not sure how Rob being Catholic comes into play. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Rob or Catholics, and wouldn't mind seeing some cards from the Apocrypha, do I personally believe it as Scripture? Does the majority of the Redemtion Players? Could be a mixed reaction to this, like there was with Angel Wars. Don't mean to start a huge theological debate on this, least not here, but I'd kinda like to see a couple of cards from the books sooner or later.   
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2009, 05:31:59 PM »
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Couple of things, first I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of cards based off of the Apocrypha or Early Church Fathers. Might be intersting. However, I'm not sure how Rob being Catholic comes into play. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Rob or Catholics, and wouldn't mind seeing some cards from the Apocrypha, do I personally believe it as Scripture? Does the majority of the Redemtion Players? Could be a mixed reaction to this, like there was with Angel Wars. Don't mean to start a huge theological debate on this, least not here, but I'd kinda like to see a couple of cards from the books sooner or later.   
In that case, it might not be a good idea to release the apocrypha as a "set" but rather release cards from the apocrypha gradually (Josephus and Angel Wars have already opened the door for this to happen).
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2009, 04:05:47 PM »
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...I know the words and hand motions to every Barney, Wiggles, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, and Dora the Explorer song.

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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2009, 12:13:50 PM »
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Sorry to necropost but here you go Colin.

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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2009, 12:46:59 PM »
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The special ability NEEDS a shadow effect. Not just for looks, but I cant read a large portion of it because its light text on a light background.

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« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2009, 01:04:20 PM »
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Do you like the patented background?
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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2009, 02:46:59 PM »
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I would make the background just slightly less defined. Blur it a little, as it takes your eye away from the main artwork a bit too much IMO.

Not saying its bad, its a little too busy looking though.

Also, a super easy way to get the shadow effect is... Duplicate the text, make the bottom layer of text black, and nudge it down and to the right a tiny bit. It makes a huge difference. Also, if you do go back in and fix that, I suggest putting the ability more towards the bottom of the image, so it can fill it from side to side.

Just a few things I noticed.

 


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