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12/6 Warrior-class Black Brigade Greek King (or was he an emperor?  Anyway....)

You may ADD black brigade and the designation "Greek" to any O.T. human evil character.  May band to any Greek.

"then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth."  Daniel 2:39


Theory:  Trying to represent his ability to conquer so much of the world in so short a time, allow conquered cultures to survive, and to spread the Greek language/culture all at the same time.  (And the fact that he's one of the most famous/influential Greeks in history!)

Can you be more specific?  Which part?  

Umm...absolutely not. Super ultra mega beefed up OP.

I disagree. It makes one of Redemption's smallest cultures more usable, Abom players would love it, and it can't be abused to affect your opponent's characters (except for being able to band to them, which you can already do with Lot's Wife/Messenger of Satan, etc).

I might restrict it to OT human evil characters though. That way, you don't have to worry about having the Roman exception (since all human Romans are NT, and I don't know of many OT Romans that could be made) and it'd be more historically accurate, since Alexander lived centuries before Christ's birth.

Otherwise, I like it a lot.

I think it should have a cost, like "discard a site."
on a side note, wouldn't it make sense if a site had an ability like this? like:
Greece
White Brigade Site (cuz of Daniel and the Prince of Greece, Prince of Persia. this is subject to change)
When you put a lost soul in this site, set aside an evil character for two turns. Upon return, evil Character gains black brigade and is considered Greek.

I've always thought sites should be used in a way similar to this.

Umm...absolutely not. Super ultra mega beefed up OP.

I think I misread as "Greek to ALL Evil Characters".

Unless that was what you had before you edited.

<3 it.

Quote from: stefferweffer on March 24, 2010, 05:50:23 PM

If you had an ability that adds "Greek" and also "May band to any Greek", may those abilities be used in the same turn on the same EC?

Yes. Abilities follow the order written (except when banding or choose the blocker comes before other abilities, in which case they go last). So what happens is this:

You block with Alexander.
You convert someone to a Greek.
You look around to see if any Greeks are in play; seeing the guy you just converted, you band to him.

again, I think it should be a set aside to prevent this.

And WOP prevents the banding to an opponent's EC anyway.

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 24, 2010, 06:18:17 PM

<3 it.

Lol.  I don't know my emotes very well.  Is this approval or disapproval?

that's a heart.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 24, 2010, 06:23:08 PM

again, I think it should be a set aside to prevent this.

Why? What's wrong with it? So he can band to any OT human EC. How is that so bad? Also, it's negatable.

it begins a super band. so, I make Gomer a black greek. then she bands to whoever is next, and so on and so forth. I'm sure somebody can find a way to abuse this card...

Quote from: stefferweffer on March 24, 2010, 06:44:43 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 24, 2010, 06:18:17 PM

<3 it.

Lol.  I don't know my emotes very well.  Is this approval or disapproval?

that's a heart.

Quote from: Professoralstad on March 24, 2010, 06:26:13 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 24, 2010, 06:23:08 PM

again, I think it should be a set aside to prevent this.

Why? What's wrong with it? So he can band to any OT human EC. How is that so bad? Also, it's negatable.

it begins a super band. so, I make Gomer a black greek. then she bands to whoever is next, and so on and so forth. I'm sure somebody can find a way to abuse this card...

But aren't those "super bands" already out there (see my 12th casual deck - the banding deck)?  If its deemed too powerful then maybe make it "May band to a DIFFERENT Greek than the one he just created."?

I personally like it. All you have to do is play any O.T. evil theme, splash Alex in and some really nasty black enhancements. You have a fun deck. I could see him really hurting TGT. Don't really know how we would make it nasty, but Redemption players are notorious for making cards like this one very nasty.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 24, 2010, 06:48:30 PM

Quote from: stefferweffer on March 24, 2010, 06:44:43 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 24, 2010, 06:18:17 PM

<3 it.

Lol.  I don't know my emotes very well.  Is this approval or disapproval?

that's a heart.

Quote from: Professoralstad on March 24, 2010, 06:26:13 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 24, 2010, 06:23:08 PM

again, I think it should be a set aside to prevent this.

Why? What's wrong with it? So he can band to any OT human EC. How is that so bad? Also, it's negatable.

it begins a super band. so, I make Gomer a black greek. then she bands to whoever is next, and so on and so forth. I'm sure somebody can find a way to abuse this card...

But aren't those "super bands" already out there (see my 12th casual deck - the banding deck)?  If its deemed too powerful then maybe make it "May band to a DIFFERENT Greek than the one he just created."?

or we could just put the band before the adding.
because you don't need to change your deck at all. or splash in a Rabby with 2K and make him black. sha-bam.

http://redemptionspace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/011.png

Its kind of big

I like it! except that the identifier says "N.T...." and the reference is O.T.

Quote from: stefferweffer on March 24, 2010, 06:55:38 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 24, 2010, 06:48:30 PM

Quote from: stefferweffer on March 24, 2010, 06:44:43 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 24, 2010, 06:18:17 PM

<3 it.

Lol.  I don't know my emotes very well.  Is this approval or disapproval?

that's a heart.

Quote from: Professoralstad on March 24, 2010, 06:26:13 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 24, 2010, 06:23:08 PM

again, I think it should be a set aside to prevent this.

Why? What's wrong with it? So he can band to any OT human EC. How is that so bad? Also, it's negatable.

it begins a super band. so, I make Gomer a black greek. then she bands to whoever is next, and so on and so forth. I'm sure somebody can find a way to abuse this card...

But aren't those "super bands" already out there (see my 12th casual deck - the banding deck)?  If its deemed too powerful then maybe make it "May band to a DIFFERENT Greek than the one he just created."?

or we could just put the band before the adding.
because you don't need to change your deck at all. or splash in a Rabby with 2K and make him black. sha-bam.

Quote from: drb1200 on March 24, 2010, 07:01:27 PM

http://redemptionspace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/011.png

Its kind of big

I like it! except that the identifier says "N.T...." and the reference is O.T.

I realized that later.  If it is deemed too powerful, put the band before the add.

No nerfing required. If this card is OP then like half the cards in TxP are OP. This is the best card idea I've seen for Greeks.

They are, but that is aside the point.

Yes, I meant identifier.  I forgot the correct term.  Thanks.

The reason I put "NT" in the identifier is because the time period that ALexander the Great lived was not OT. The daniel reference is a generic reference.

He lived about three and a half centuries before the birth of Christ; that would make him OT. Characters who lived and died before Christ's birth are considered OT: See Antiochus IV Epiphanes (who is considered OT, and he died ~150 years after Alexander). So he should be OT.