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A card I strongly believe should be created.
« on: September 10, 2019, 06:31:51 AM »
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The Church of the Living God
Reference: Matthew 16:18- And I tell you that you are Peter and on this Rock I will build My church.


Good fortress / Multi Hero */12
Identifier- Choose a brigade when put in play, *- number of Hero's, The hero is Generic, Genderless, Missionary?


Fort- Protect hero's and lost souls in territories from opponent's cards. If a hero goes in alone you may exchange an enh in hand with a good enh matching that enh's brigade in deck. If Hero bands to other hero's after all the abilities complete, you may convert this fortress to a hero and add it to battle, after battle convert it back to a fort.


Hero- You may negate upto as many evil cards as there are Hero's in battle. Or draw 1 for each EC in your territory. (limit 3)


The reason I made it this way is because, the church is to protect us in our walk with God and that is the reason for the Fort icon. But the church of God is not just a place we go on Sundays or for devo groups, it is the living body of believers! So i made it a Hero as well! And as the scripture suggests the foundation of the church is built on a solid Rock and what is more solid than the number 12? The church is a whole lot stronger in numbers so the more the merrier on offence! The body isn't constructed of just one person it is made by many different types of people. So you get to choose what type of person from the church you use ( brigade wise ). The missonary part is iffy not because the church isn't on mission but because for the game it might be better for the card that it isn't. Now the body protects each other and the lost souls from the plans of the devil so I put a protect ability in there. The church isn't the place so the church helps the body of believers so the Fort helps support the Hero that goes in battle. If your going alone on your mission then God will equip you with the tools you need with the tools you got! so what better way to do that than be able to exchange with an enh ( with a brigade limit of course ) then of the body of believers goes as a whole, then the church name goes with them! So naturally i would change it to a hero and add it to battle as the church whole! The church will stop satans forces with the solid truth to stop or " negate" their teachings or "effects". When your against your enemies God will give you support or victory over your enemies, what better way to do that to be able to draw from your source of power your deck! The limit is for the game not the actual facts. I think that this card should be created because it would be able to help so many decks, not just one deck but many different decks. because it is such a splashable card you will be able to throw it into your combo or theme decks. This will either give it the boost it needs or give the other deck a run for their money! ( or even sometimes both ;) ;) ;) ;)  ) . Thank you very much for reading and of you do consider making this card. Give much feed back, I do take critique! Again thank you very much![size=78%]  [/size]
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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2019, 09:50:48 AM »
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The Church of the Living God
Reference: Matthew 16:18- And I tell you that you are Peter and on this Rock I will build My church.
Any card that has Matthew 16:18 as its reference must include the SA: Regardless of protection, discard Gates of Hell. Cannot be negated.


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Fort- Protect hero's and lost souls in territories from opponent's cards.
I am not crazy about the Protection SA here. The same Peter referenced in Matthew 16:18 later wrote to the Church, "Dear friends, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal that has come on you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you." (1 Peter 4:12)  Being a member of the church means facing persecution not avoiding it.  Given this a cool SA might be...

Redirect the first enhancement targeting one of more of your heros in battle to target a hero in this fortress, regardless of protection.

That way you get a protection-like effect at a cost of making a hero suffer an ordeal.

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... you may convert this fortress to a hero and add it to battle, after battle convert it back to a fort. ...
I really like this ability. Very thematic.

Anyway, I know this isn't a whole lot of help, which is why I don't frequently comment on new card design.  I just thought there were a couple of really nice ideas here.

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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 10:08:10 AM »
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I don't know if the Fortress holds Heroes, but I liked MJBs redirect idea. Maybe the redirect could target a Hero in your territory. Overall, I really like this idea tcg.


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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 10:22:44 AM »
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So it would be more like if your opponent does something to your hero you may redirect it to a different hero? I kinda like that idea  ;D
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2019, 10:25:40 AM »
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Yep... at least with the first enhancement played by your opponent.

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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2019, 10:28:31 AM »
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Well would you then be able to pull off something like redirecting it to a hero with faith of enoch on it?
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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2019, 10:34:52 AM »
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Perhaps instead of holding Heroes you could combine the "redirect" and "add to battle" aspects by saying "If your Hero in battle is harmed, you may withdraw it to convert this to a Hero and add it to battle."

That way the Hero is "persecuted" but the church backs them up.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2019, 10:36:41 AM »
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or maybe something like you can set the harmed hero aside and then add a different hero to battle from territory?

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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2019, 10:37:05 AM »
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so they are still "persecuted"
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2019, 10:37:59 AM »
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instead of seting them aside maybe reserving the hero? for more use with the reserve?
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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2019, 12:43:31 PM »
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My first instinct, looking at the amount of space for abilities on cities, is that the fort's ability will be too long. It'll have no room left for the hero. I could try and do a mockup in a bit, see if I'm wrong, but I think that it would need to be shorter.

As another note, I would make this a clay specific thing, or a clay/purple thing. Having it be any brigade opens it up to be an O.T. support card, which I don't think is the intent. This seems like something that should be an N.T. deck's cool new toy.

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2019, 01:13:20 PM »
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Given that the church is the body of believers, would this not simply fit as a territory class Hero and not a Fortress/Hero?
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2019, 02:22:44 PM »
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So here's a simple mockup of the card. The text would be too long even as a Fort alone. I'd recommend cutting the abilities down to one or two.

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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2019, 04:05:58 PM »
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I can do that! but i do believe if you are able to put the for on top and the hero on bottom that might work too but i still would need to shorten the ability!
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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2019, 04:14:31 PM »
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Dual icon cards only get 2-3 rows of text to work with maximum (for each icon/side). It doesn't matter if it's a more traditional style or a Whirlwind/Everlasting Grounds style.
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2019, 04:19:01 PM »
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If hero is to be harmed reserve hero instead (once per turn). If alone exchange enhancement in hand with a enhancement in dack matching brigade. If banded convert and add hero to battle.


Is that a bit better? And I changed the protect because of the factual scripture statement made by you all! and thank you for the feed back! i love it and keep it coming!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2019, 04:42:42 PM »
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My first instinct, looking at the amount of space for abilities on cities, is that the fort's ability will be too long. It'll have no room left for the hero. I could try and do a mockup in a bit, see if I'm wrong, but I think that it would need to be shorter.

As another note, I would make this a clay specific thing, or a clay/purple thing. Having it be any brigade opens it up to be an O.T. support card, which I don't think is the intent. This seems like something that should be an N.T. deck's cool new toy.


Yeah but i kinda made this card as a very splash positive card. So that is why i made it as a multi brigade choose sorta thing.
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2019, 04:44:47 PM »
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Given that the church is the body of believers, would this not simply fit as a territory class Hero and not a Fortress/Hero?


Yes I see your point. I like the fort/hero idea tho and it is harder to discard a fort. In which case harder to get rid of the church as a whole.
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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2019, 06:07:53 PM »
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The Church of the Living God
Reference: Matthew 16:18- And I tell you that you are Peter and on this Rock I will build My church.
Any card that has Matthew 16:18 as its reference must include the SA: Regardless of protection, discard Gates of Hell. Cannot be negated.

Unfortunately The Gates of Hell would prevail over this wording since it plays to set aside. And that’s just not biblical.

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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2019, 06:22:07 PM »
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So, something to note:

As it's worded, the fortress side protects lost souls from being rescued (Either by Dominants or by heroes), and basically acts as an autoblock. It should probably say from opponent's evil cards, so that the church doesn't stop Son of God.

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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2019, 06:26:54 PM »
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Oh goodness i didn't mean that  ;D ;D ;D ;D  yes evil  cards not all cards
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2019, 06:31:14 PM »
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Protect lost souls from evil cards, if a hero is to be harmed reserve it instead. If hero is alone in battle exchange enhancement with another enhancement in deck matching brigade. If banded convert this Fortress to a hero and add it to battle.
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Re: A card I strongly believe should be created.
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2019, 06:37:36 PM »
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Fort-discard the gates of hell in set aside.  protect heroes in territory and lost souls from evil cards.  May conver to a hero to add to battle

Purple/clay */12 Hero-negate an evil card. draw 1 for each hero in battle. Search reserve for a good convert.  May band to a nt human

Whole card-cbn if The Holy Spirit is in play

*=human heroes in battle.  Enters play as fort, chose church when hero enters battle, genderless, symbolic
« Last Edit: September 10, 2019, 06:44:02 PM by sepjazzwarrior »

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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2019, 06:44:40 PM »
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i like as a fort it gets by fbtn and cwd

great concept

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2019, 07:01:30 PM »
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Fort-discard the gates of hell in set aside.  protect heroes in territory and lost souls from evil cards.  May conver to a hero to add to battle

Purple/clay */12 Hero-negate an evil card. draw 1 for each hero in battle. Search reserve for a good convert.  May band to a nt human

Whole card-cbn if The Holy Spirit is in play

*=human heroes in battle.  Enters play as fort, chose church when hero enters battle, genderless, symbolic
Is the add to battle intended as battle extension? Cause if so, it needs an at any time clause.

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2019, 07:15:59 PM »
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I like the CBN if holy spirit is in play but idk about the whole search for the convert.
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2019, 08:22:53 PM »
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The church of the Living God
Fort- Protect lost souls from evil cards even while a hero. If a hero is harmed reserve it instead. If hero is alone exchange an enhancement in hand with an enhancement in deck. If hero bands convert this fort to hero. CBN if Holy Spirit is in play


X/12 Clay/ Purple
Hero- Negate X evil cards. Or draw X (limit 5).  CBN if Holy Spirit is in play.
X- Number of hero's in play
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2019, 11:28:24 PM »
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Spirit of Baal curse/evil character

Can do the same with Molech, Ashtorath
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2019, 12:57:41 AM »
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I think i will change it back to a multi brigade hero because the original idea for this card was to make it splashable and also a great booster draft card
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