Author Topic: Polarius' Card Idea Discussion (UPDATED 17 MARCH) (Read 11600 times)

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #100 on:** March 17, 2012, 03:11:31 PM »

In light of the new rules, I made these Sites:

Sodom

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Shinar

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Egypt

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BubbleBoy · « **Reply #101 on:** March 17, 2012, 05:11:32 PM »

Sodom protects souls from opponent's SoG/NJ (and your own Burial), and that's it? I like it sort of, since it stops doms, but in most cases, your opponent can just SoG something else, so all it will really do is prevent your Burial. It may be good combined with the 2/3-Liner, but that isn't a good thing IMO.

Shinar I really like. Useful pretty much only in a dedicated sitelock deck.

HATE Egypt. NOT the kind of counter we should be using for ANYTHING IMO. It doesn't really even discourage CBN cards (at least not enough for people to remove them from decks), it just supports a soul-burying strategy, which is terrible. Maybe if it also placed itself beneath deck, the cost would balance it. (That would also give more reason to use Building Egypt.)

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #102 on:** March 18, 2012, 04:08:28 AM »

With Sodom, you can completely stop your opponent from using SoG/NJ at all. Use the */4, NT and Site Doubler, and you're looking at 4 souls that can't be rescued by Doms. Granted if they use Hopper they can still use SoG, or if they manage to gen another soul, but there are ways to stop that very easily.

Smokey · « **Reply #103 on:** March 18, 2012, 03:57:00 PM »

Egypt would just be in every deck, maybe add "If you have an Egyptian in play" or something along those lines.

The other two are situationally useful and balanced.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #104 on:** March 18, 2012, 04:22:22 PM »

Maybe get over your addiction to CBN if you don't want Egypt hiding souls?

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #105 on:** March 18, 2012, 04:24:55 PM »

Maybe lose?

Smokey · « **Reply #106 on:** March 18, 2012, 04:28:39 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 18, 2012, 04:22:22 PM

Maybe get over your addiction to CBN if you don't want Egypt hiding souls?

Game needs more staples.

Also, this makes Woman @ the well hilarious.

Red Wing · « **Reply #107 on:** March 18, 2012, 04:32:13 PM »

Quote from: Smokey on March 18, 2012, 04:28:39 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 18, 2012, 04:22:22 PM
Maybe get over your addiction to CBN if you don't want Egypt hiding souls?

Game needs more staples.

7+ Doms aren't enough?

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #108 on:** March 18, 2012, 05:05:45 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 18, 2012, 04:22:22 PM

Maybe get over your addiction to CBN if you don't want Egypt hiding souls?

Maybe make a reason not to play Egypt in every deck I build?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #109 on:** March 18, 2012, 05:12:40 PM »

It becomes a wasted slot because people aren't using as much CBN.

A card isn't OP or a staple in a bad way if the only reason it would be either is because it stops other OP cards.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #110 on:** March 18, 2012, 05:29:34 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 18, 2012, 05:12:40 PM

It becomes a wasted slot because people aren't using as much CBN.

A card isn't OP or a staple in a bad way if the only reason it would be either is because it stops other OP cards.

I'm pretty sure I'd still use the best cards in the game even if a soft counter came out.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #111 on:** March 18, 2012, 08:12:09 PM »

Then you have nobody but yourself to blame if Egypt limits your soul availability.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #112 on:** March 18, 2012, 09:38:39 PM »

I realize that, but that doesn't mean it's not too powerful of a card that exists without a cost to the user.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #113 on:** March 18, 2012, 09:51:20 PM »

Again I maintain that it's not too powerful if the only reason it would be too powerful is that the cards your opponent put in his deck are too powerful.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #114 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:40:15 AM »

Every Knee Bows

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Necromancy

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Now that the dom cap is in place, there's room for more niche Dominants. The first is designed to make LotS less of a no-brainer, since your opponent can drop Every Knee Bows and then hit you with a DoN, Burial and FA. The second is meant as the counter to Grapes (AotL balances CM, FA balances NJ, Burial balances HT, and Necromancy would counter Grapes) that would not help the meta-defense but would help real defenses immensely.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #115 on:** April 01, 2012, 07:51:31 AM »

Every Knee Bows probably has a million uses. I'm okay with the one you mentioned, and I love the anti-Uzzah and anti-Naz possibilities. I'm not sure if I like it negating protect forts, though. Overall, I'm thinking the card might be TOO flexible, and may be used too often.

Necromancy is beautiful.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #116 on:** April 01, 2012, 10:53:43 AM »

Every Knee bows is amazing, if it was in print it would be in my deck.

Not sure how much if ever I would use Necromancy.

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #117 on:** April 01, 2012, 01:56:46 PM »

The links are broken. could you type the abilities?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #118 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:11:27 PM »

Every Knee Bows:

Negate Protect Abilities

Necromancy:

Search each Discard Pile for an Evil Human with offense 4/* or greater and put in your territory.

Jmbeers · « **Reply #119 on:** April 01, 2012, 10:47:19 PM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 01, 2012, 10:53:43 AM

Not sure how much if ever I would use Necromancy.

Are you kidding me?

Evil recursion is one of the best abilities in the game if it used correctly, I can't see the link but if it is crimson or pale green that card would be in every single Bab deck because you can only angle of the Lord Nerg one time.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #120 on:** April 02, 2012, 03:19:23 PM »

It's a dom. That's why I probably wouldn't use it, with the cap in effect it would be hard to fit it into many of my decks.

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #121 on:** April 02, 2012, 03:30:50 PM »

So, with necromancy, I search all discards for an evil character and add it to my territory?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #122 on:** April 02, 2012, 03:52:41 PM »

I'd be more comfortable with Every Knee Boys if it negated "Protect and Play abilities." Otherwise ET+AoCP would come back with a vengeance (at least in T2, where people have to put characters in territory). I'd also add "this turn" so that it would actually stop Uzzah (after Uzzah is discarded, his ability can't be targeted by a negate, AFAIK). That way you could play it in your prep phase, and the ability would carry over to battle phase.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #123 on:** April 02, 2012, 04:01:46 PM »

Quote from: Asahel24601 on April 02, 2012, 03:30:50 PM

So, with necromancy, I search all discards for an evil character and add it to my territory?

Correct. I dislike the jiggery pokery involved in having to pick one, then search it in favor of being able to search all but only select one.

@ Prof, good idea there. The "this turn" shouldn't be necessary since you can attack with your Hero, then play Every Knee Bows before they can block. I'm always wary of things that last a whole turn; while I can't think of any ways to majorly abuse it, Golgotha.

Josh · « **Reply #124 on:** April 02, 2012, 10:08:04 PM »

Although it would probably make Necromancy OP, I think it'd be cool if it searched for 2 in any discard pile that has both a magician and a demon in territory. Or did something else if a magician was in territory. Maybe the convert ability only works if a magician is in territory?

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Author Topic: Polarius' Card Idea Discussion (UPDATED 17 MARCH) (Read 11600 times)