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Title: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Townsend on August 14, 2011, 04:43:57 PM
Player: Matt Townsend
Cards: 52

Lost souls 8
Hopper
First Round Protect
Wanderer
Revealer
Shuffler
Female Only
3-liner
Shutdoor

Good Dominants 6
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Grapes of Wrath
Guardian of Your Souls
Angel of the Lord
Harvest Time

Evil Dominants 4
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Mayhem
Falling Away

Artifacts 5
Lampstand in the Sanctuary
Chariot of Fire
Four-Drachama Coin
Darius' Decree
Holy Grail

Good Fortress' 2
Herod's Temple
The Garden Tomb

Evil Fortress 1
Philistine Outpost

White Heroes 6
Mary the Mother of James
Salome
Joanna
Mary Magdaline
Susanna
Lydia

Red Heroes 3
Peter
Centurion at Calvary
Centurion at Capernaum

Silver Heroes 1
Gabriel (DI)

White Enhancements 4
He is Risen
Magnificat
Words of Encouragement
Consider the Lilies

Red Enhancements 3
A Soldier's Prayer
Mustering for War
David's Triumph

Multi-colored Enhancements 3
Faith in our High Priest
First Fruits
Benedictus

Black Evil Characters 3
Philistine Garrison
Goliath (Promo)
Philistine Armour Bearer

Brown Evil Character 1
Uzzah

Gray Evil Character 1
Sabbath Breaker

Multi-colored Evil Character 1
The Amalekites' Slave

This deck went 9-1 at this years Nats with its only loss being to Andrew Wester's Trololol which was an awesome deck.

The whole week I was debating on if I wanted to play my normal white offense that had been working extremely well for most of the year but it was getting kind of boring and wasn't winning as consistently as it used too so I was thinking about changing my deck the night before the T1 2P competition I was talking to Mitch Stewart about it cause I played him with this deck online a couple of times and he thought it was the right idea to switch so I thought about it and decided to go with the Red/Tomb because the centurions are pretty awesome first turn and they rock chump blockers, Dave's Win to rock the Phillies (which I thought there would be a ton of) and Mustering for War is one of my favorite set asides although it takes 2 turns for it but the fact I don't have to worry having my offense getting wiped out by DD which I also thought would be in almost every Deck.




Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: The M on August 14, 2011, 05:16:18 PM
Congrats on winning Nats! Double props for winning with Red before you could play with the new set.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: WesterForever on August 14, 2011, 05:28:52 PM
GO MATT!!! Congrats to Andrew on beating the champ before he was the champ ;)
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: lightningninja on August 14, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
Congrats. Winning with red (kind of). Very creative. But also that's the longest sentence I have ever read. ;)
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: slugfencer on August 14, 2011, 09:20:03 PM
Congrats dude! ROOT FTW!!!   :)
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Dario Dante on August 14, 2011, 10:12:02 PM
COOL DECK!!!!!!!




                                            -DARiO
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: crustpope on August 14, 2011, 10:27:44 PM
Way to represent the midwest!
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 14, 2011, 11:22:08 PM
Matt, I think I might have held you back in Teams. :P
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: MitchRobStew on August 14, 2011, 11:24:40 PM
Yep that deck is legit.  I'm glad you decided to run it over the white deck.  Congrats Matt.  Well deserved. 
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Warrior_Monk on August 14, 2011, 11:46:08 PM
Almost every year, the unexpected deck wins. Everybody was calling out a Disciples win, and then this comes along. Awesome job, and congrats. This deck was unique enough to catch people off guard, but still incredibly solid, and was in the hands of a great player, from what I could tell.

Why no Burial? Lampstand too popular?
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Townsend on August 15, 2011, 12:13:31 AM

Why no Burial? Lampstand too popular?
Actually I really didn't think about Burial...

Matt, I think I might have held you back in Teams. :P
Nah, you got way more rescues then I did. And you weren't the one who put 3 nails in a deck when we were both playin demons  ;).
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Captain Kirk on August 15, 2011, 01:45:39 PM
Nice work Matt.

When after your post on July 24 that you weren't going to nats did you decide to make the trek?  ;)

Kirk
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Townsend on August 15, 2011, 01:49:41 PM
Nice work Matt.

When after your post on July 24 that you weren't going to nats did you decide to make the trek?  ;)

Kirk
Thanks Kirk, but yea I got a ride with Travis last minute lol.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Gabe on August 16, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
I love how you took a "cookie cutter" deck (White TGT) and fine tuned it for the meta (Philistines). I bet anyone had said white/red TGT is going to win Nats before the event started I think they would have been laughed at. :)

Way to be innovative. Congrats on your win. Welcome to the elite.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Neil Da BOMB J on August 17, 2011, 02:27:32 PM
Disciples didn't win YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congrads on you victory.  Aren't you concerned people are gonna clone your deck.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: lightningninja on August 17, 2011, 02:42:36 PM
I have to say that I'm a little surprised you didn't run into trouble with a speed deck... I feel like they could win before you, despite you being able to beat their offense. Was your loss to a faster deck?
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Master KChief on August 17, 2011, 02:45:04 PM
his loss was to anti-meta, i believe.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Neil Da BOMB J on August 25, 2011, 12:30:06 PM
I have to say that I'm a little surprised you didn't run into trouble with a speed deck... I feel like they could win before you, despite you being able to beat their offense. Was your loss to a faster deck?
His loss was to Andrew's watchful S. deck.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: lightningninja on August 25, 2011, 01:18:09 PM
Oh yeah ok that's understandable.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Townsend on August 25, 2011, 01:26:26 PM
I have to say that I'm a little surprised you didn't run into trouble with a speed deck... I feel like they could win before you, despite you being able to beat their offense. Was your loss to a faster deck?
To be honest I had no issues with speed decks and believe it or not my deck was faster than almost all the opponents I played.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 25, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
And the 6 first turn Mayhems had NOTHING to do with that ;)
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Captain Falcon on August 25, 2011, 01:49:10 PM
One of which was against me! lol and to think i beat you the day before in iron man..  ::)
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: SomeKittens on August 25, 2011, 04:56:49 PM
And the 6 first turn Mayhems had NOTHING to do with that ;)
I calculate a .523% chance of 6 FTM's in ten rounds.  This doesn't bring in the possibility of his opponent having a FTM.

/Anyone who was actually paying attention in stats, feel free to correct this.
//This makes it  a 191.204 to 1 chance of happening.  So I only need to attend 190 more nationals to guarantee a win.

EDIT: Math and general errors fixed.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Gabe on August 25, 2011, 05:14:24 PM
We played 10 rounds, so that would make it 6 out of 10 I believe, which changes your math a bit. The odds of it happening for one you specifically may be slim, but given a field of almost 100 people the chances of it happening for someone go up significantly. Someone else who figured out the math told me that there's a 1 in 4 chance of someone in a field of 100 getting 6 FTM in 10 rounds.

All that still doesn't take into account whether or not their FTM is optimal or that they even get to play first when they draw it, only that they have it in their opening hand.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Warrior_Monk on August 25, 2011, 05:19:51 PM
We played 10 rounds, so that would make it 6 out of 10 I believe, which changes your math a bit. The odds of it happening for one you specifically may be slim, but given a field of almost 100 people the chances of it happening for someone go up significantly. Someone else who figured out the math told me that there's a 1 in 4 chance of someone in a field of 100 getting 6 FTM in 10 rounds.

All that still doesn't take into account whether or not their FTM is optimal or that they even get to play first when they draw it, only that they have it in their opening hand.
That's also assuming that everybody is play Mayhem in a 50(?) card deck.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Prof Underwood on August 25, 2011, 05:26:12 PM
That's also assuming that everybody is play Mayhem in a 50(?) card deck.
Actually I think the person doing that math was assuming that about half the players had Mayhem in a 50 (or maybe 56) card deck).
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: SomeKittens on August 25, 2011, 05:46:23 PM
I didn't even factor in opponents.  First time around, I did the math wrong, it's fixed now.  That's the probability of getting Mayhem in six out of ten test draws.

Gabe, I did my math with ten rounds, and then wrote six.

Wraith, it's a 50 card deck with hopper.  Numbers will change even more with Matt's deck.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: SomeKittens on August 25, 2011, 05:54:19 PM
Where's the 25% coming from?  I assumed a 19.8% chance (RDT crunched the numbers, I seem to remember that).
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on August 25, 2011, 05:55:54 PM
The 25% was referring to Gabe/Prof's 1/4 chance.

I deleted my post because I noticed an error. One min.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Prof Underwood on August 25, 2011, 10:08:59 PM
Where's the 25% coming from?  I assumed a 19.8% chance
I didn't do the math myself, but perhaps the difference is that the 25% chance was of having AT LEAST 6 FTM out of 10 rounds.  So a person could have 7, 8, 9, or 10, (although those would be smaller percentages) and that would still give them AT LEAST 6 FTM.  So perhaps you forgot to add in those smaller percentages?

Just an idea.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 25, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
I'm not much for stats but shouldn't the prob be about .198^6? (for a single person)
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: SomeKittens on August 25, 2011, 10:20:26 PM
Ah, we were working from different angles of the problem.  I just was working with the probability of one player, six only.

I'm not much for stats but shouldn't the prob be about .198^6? (for a single person)
Not in this case.  That's basically what I did the first time around, but Bernoulli's formula is more appropriate.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Prof Underwood on August 25, 2011, 10:23:32 PM
but Bernoulli's formula is more appropriate.
I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

Naturally you expect me to attack with Caprifaire.

I find that Tybalt cancels out Caprifaire, don't you.

Unless his opponent has studied his Agrippa....which I have :)
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 25, 2011, 10:34:59 PM
Can you explain why? I am not much of a stats guy, like I said.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: SomeKittens on August 25, 2011, 10:38:19 PM
"Because my brother said so" is basically my defense.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 25, 2011, 10:39:46 PM
Sounds good. I'm not really into learning about math, but this seemed like a straightforward problem, so I figured I'd ask.
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Andy Herzog on March 27, 2012, 06:13:19 PM
Nice job at nats was this 2011
Title: Re: 2011 T1-2P 1st Place
Post by: Dario Dante on March 31, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
With all this math questions, why don't you just ask YMT
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