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Chris

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Record:
6-1 in regular tournament play.
1-2 in Top Cut

Cards in deck: 51
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (Fool)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (punisher)
   Lost Soul (Resurrection)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shame)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)

Lamb Dominants: 3
   Angel of the Lord
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Mayhem
   Vain Philosophy

Fortresses: 2
   Pharaoh's Throne Room
   Storehouse

Blue Sites: 1
   Pharaoh's Prison

Green Sites: 1
   Nazareth

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   Promised Land

Artifacts: 1
   Magic Charms

White Covenant Cards: 1
   Rain Becomes Dust (Gray)

Blue Covenant Cards: 1
   I am Holy

Multi-Color Heroes: 1
   Joseph (Blue/Green)

Blue Heroes: 7
   Benjamin
   Eve
   Jacob
   Judah
   Rachel
   Simeon
   Zebulun

Blue Hero Enhancements: 5
   Abraham's Descendant
   Forgiveness of Joseph
   Joseph Before Pharaoh
   Jubilee
   Reuben's Torn Clothes

Multi-Color Evil Characters: 2
   Egyptian Magicians
   Foreign Wives

Gold Evil Characters: 6
   Jannes
   Pharaoh's Baker
   Pharaoh's Cupbearer
   Potiphar
   Potiphar's Wife
   The Dreaming Pharaoh

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Magicians' Snakes (Gold/Pale Green)

Gold Evil Enhancements: 6
   Besieging the City
   Egyptian Horses
   Evil Spirit
   Failed Objective
   Swift Horses
   Wonders Forgotten

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Re: 2014 T12P 4th Place Deck "Josiah was right about Genesis after all"
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 12:03:49 AM »
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The absolute first thing that I have to say is that I would not have been turned on to Genesis with a conversation with Josiah Beers. His influence is what got me to test out Genesis about two weeks before Nats, and had it not been for him, I wouldn't have thought to give Genesis serious consideration, and as a result, I don't believe I would have gotten fourth place without him. I also owe a huge debt to Justin, who gave me some excellent advice and allowed me to test the deck against a variety of different uncommon decks. All of the cards I used aside from one were also borrowed from him. John Earley and Andrew Wester also get a lot of credit for their input and helping me playtest. Without these four gentlemen, I would not have made top cut, plain and simple.

Looking back on it, I think there are two key virtues to Genesis that allowed me to use them so effectively this year. The first is that Genesis provides more variety in effective rescues than any other offense in the game. Joseph is clearly the go-to rescue right now, but failing that, Zebulun and Simeon are both excellent backups, Jacob can be used extremely effectively, and Eve's ignore and unique speed are brilliant. The result is that I very rarely don't feel I should initiate a battle, as I can always accomplish something, even if that something isn't rescuing a soul that turn. The second virtue is directly related to the first: Genesis excels at recovering from bad opening draws. The worst draw of the game for me was against Josiah Beers, and he was quickly able to rescue three souls and put the game at 0-3, while I had only managed to draw a single character: Simeon. A first turn RBD and Mayhem during the third turn was enough to let me spring back and win that game 5-3. Now admittedly, a Mayhem and RBD can save a lot of decks from a lot of different circumstances, but if Genesis wasn't so effective on offense and so effective and fast on defense, that recovery simply wouldn't have been possible.
In my seven regular games, my deck only had an average-to-optimal draw three times. The other four were all below average, and I was able to recover from three of them. Overall, I took three losses, and two of them were to the same player, who ultimately won the entire tournament. The third was to John Earley, who will be the first to admit that my draw in our game was truly terrible (the worst in the tournament for me, save the game against Josiah), and my deck even has a slight advantage against him, making our odds somewhere around 55-45 in my favor. Still, John is one of the best players in the game, and that does not diminish his defeating me in the least. The point being, Genesis tends to recover much better from bad draws than the average top tier deck, and only in the absolute worst (e.g. Earley) can it not recover.

If I could play it again, I'm not sure I would make any changes. Answer to Prayer would have come in handy more than Nazareth in this deck, but Nazareth is still an excellent play if your deck isn't too search heavy, and it's an especially unexpected play for Genesis. I didn't once use Promised Land, but my philosophy is that it's only one card, and when I need it, I need it badly. I would still probably keep it in for insurance. Jubilee was the very last add to the deck, pushing it to 51, and I would keep it, as I used it twice to pull out enhancements, and used it in most every other game for I Am Holy. It was a card Justin brought up to me, and now, I can't imagine playing the deck without it.

There is no way for me to be truly unbiased, but I honestly believe this was the best deck at the tournament. The three games I lost included two where my opponent (the national champion) had unbelievable draws, getting 8 Disciples (including Thad) within two turns both games, among other goodies, and one game where I simply had a bad draw, and even if I'd had an exceptional one, I still could have lost simply because Earley is one of the best players in the game. I would play Genesis again in a heartbeat if I could do it over.

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Re: 2014 T12P 4th Place "Josiah was right about Genesis after all"
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 12:09:05 AM »
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This deck is so good it forced me to use a Curse other than Rain Becomes Dust or Covenant with Death...I'm not telling which one though... ::)
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Re: 2014 T12P 4th Place "Josiah was right about Genesis after all"
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 12:58:41 AM »
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This is the reason I was going to play The Deck instead of the deck I planned on playing up until a week before.

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Re: 2014 T12P 4th Place "Josiah was right about Genesis after all"
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 08:43:40 AM »
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Nice job on 4th.

Few thoughts -
1. Why no 7 Years?
2. Did you consider Pithom (if you played 7 Years)?
3. How did you do against my defense (Magician/Assyrians)? When I played that defense (e.g. Always), I had a 90%+ win rate against Genesis Egyptians and only lost to Creation of the World in the first turn or two.

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Re: 2014 T12P 4th Place "Josiah was right about Genesis after all"
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 09:54:47 AM »
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Thanks for the credit on this but your giving me to much. You built and ran a top deck.  I would contend that Jerome's deck was the best deck in the tournament but perhaps that's my bias.  I would still have ranked yours 2nd.  I'm just pumped Genesis did so well.

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I give Chris credit for understanding his own thinking process in the game and knowing it was a better play for him to play the prison which creates potential for early game soft lock. Plus Naz stops the search.  Personally I never run 7yrs either it's good in theory but overall not worth the slot.

As for playing your defense I would be interested to see it played out against Chris's deck.  To see if that win ratio holds.
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Re: 2014 T12P 4th Place "Josiah was right about Genesis after all"
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2014, 10:49:17 AM »
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1. Why no 7 Years?

This is for two main reasons. The first is that, during test plays, I had a hard time remembering the triggers. If I had more time to test, I probably could have gotten this down, but with only two weeks, I just didn't have the time. I'm also not sure it would have ended up in the deck even if I was confident in hitting the triggers. The search is excellent, and obviously a potential d3 is as well, but nothing about it is overly exciting or critical to making this deck work. The main thing I was using it for was to get Storehouse out quickly, and when I split the difference by playing Storehouse AND a copy of Pharaoh's Prison, it didn't matter as much. If I play Genesis in the future, I will certainly be testing it further though.

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2. Did you consider Pithom (if you played 7 Years)?

The first version of this deck used Pithom and Given Over to Egypt, but because the list is so tight and I wanted to run as small as humanly possible (going to 51 broke my heart), I simply didn't have room. Pithom is useful, but not in every game, and not in every circumstance. My defense doesn't exactly lack for battlewinners, but if I played Pithom, it would have been instead of evil cards, and I couldn't afford to do anything to make my defense weaker. My philosophy when building this was to side with good cards whenever I possibly could for I Am Holy, so they both simply got edged out by other things.

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3. How did you do against my defense (Magician/Assyrians)? When I played that defense (e.g. Always), I had a 90%+ win rate against Genesis Egyptians and only lost to Creation of the World in the first turn or two.

I never ran into something like this, though I can see where the weak match up is, especially when combined when playing against a top player such as yourself. Assyrian Survivor stops Joseph from getting initiative, and in most cases will stop Zebulun as well. Siege Army can take out Storehouse, Prison, Nazareth, and Throne Room to cripple my defense. I'm not sure how it would end up.

I would contend that Jerome's deck was the best deck in the tournament but perhaps that's my bias.  I would still have ranked yours 2nd.  I'm just pumped Genesis did so well.

Jerome definitely had a harder schedule than I did in regular play, but I think my deck has a slight advantage in the 1-v-1 matchup, so it's really hard to tell. I'm fine with just saying both decks were excellent, top tier, and I wish they'd done better.

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Re: 2014 T12P 4th Place "Josiah was right about Genesis after all"
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 12:52:17 PM »
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Thanks for weighing in.

1. That makes sense not to include a card you forget to take advantage of. :) I found that even if my search did not work the d3-7 was worth the slot.
2. I never really use GOtE with Pithom but mainly use it to take care of cards in territory I wanted to remove. This was really effective in T2 (where I used Pithom the most) and was employed by Noah W in his 3rd place T2 2p deck.
3. That is surprising no one played Assyrian/Magicians. I guess that shows the meta-game can shift dramatically. I still think the versatility of that defense is unmatched, although it does not have the brute strength of some others. I usually put a hurting on Genesis through repeated play of Invoking Terror (band to your E Magicians if mine is not on the table) or create side battles to play it off bottom and through Charms, Writ, and Assyrian Archer.

I don't play anymore but if you wanted to give you deck a spin against a version of mine, hit up Jay Chambers. He has been playing that deck well over the past couple years.

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