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ChristianSoldier:

--- Quote from: kerfluffle on July 25, 2015, 08:46:15 PM ---I think good card art/design is something that draws people to a card game (it's definitely something I appreciate). There are some people who won't play Yugioh because it has terrible card design. Also I personally don't like how in some card games decking out means you lose. I think that the only way to lose should be a way within the rules of the game rather than the technicalities of it. Finally, don't make deck building rules strict/rigid. Give people lots of freedom to build their own unique deck.

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I agree good art can make or break a game.

Technically if "Decking out" makes you lose in a game, it's part of the rules, not just a technicality, in MtG it actually has flavor (while life is your body being destroyed, decking out is your mind being destroyed), and in Android: Netrunner the Corp Decking out I think means they ran out of resources to achieve their goals (the branch of the company had to shut down), and in some games decking out your opponent is the primary way of winning (Star Wars Customizable Card Game being the most notable one I know). Of course this isn't to say that you aren't entitled to your own opinion on what you do and don't like, but I don't think it is just a technicality.

I'm curious what you mean by deck building rules being strict/rigid, would you care to explain?

kerfluffle:

--- Quote from: ChristianSoldier on July 25, 2015, 09:20:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: kerfluffle on July 25, 2015, 08:46:15 PM ---I think good card art/design is something that draws people to a card game (it's definitely something I appreciate). There are some people who won't play Yugioh because it has terrible card design. Also I personally don't like how in some card games decking out means you lose. I think that the only way to lose should be a way within the rules of the game rather than the technicalities of it. Finally, don't make deck building rules strict/rigid. Give people lots of freedom to build their own unique deck.

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I agree good art can make or break a game.

Technically if "Decking out" makes you lose in a game, it's part of the rules, not just a technicality, in MtG it actually has flavor (while life is your body being destroyed, decking out is your mind being destroyed), and in Android: Netrunner the Corp Decking out I think means they ran out of resources to achieve their goals (the branch of the company had to shut down), and in some games decking out your opponent is the primary way of winning (Star Wars Customizable Card Game being the most notable one I know). Of course this isn't to say that you aren't entitled to your own opinion on what you do and don't like, but I don't think it is just a technicality.

I'm curious what you mean by deck building rules being strict/rigid, would you care to explain?

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I just said it was a technicality because it could interrupt the flow of the game if you lost via decking out. Players who otherwise might win would lose because they decked out. Sure, it could be part of the rules and you could think of it as your body being destroyed and whatnot, but if there are other more common ways of winning the game then I think you should have to win the game that way. But, as you stated, preferences are preferences.

Also, for the rigid deck building thing, I hate to pick on Redemption but there are a lot of stiff rules for deck building if you want to build a tournament legal deck. And a lot of the rules don't apply to other card games (e.g. the amount of any card you can have in some games is 4 but in Redemption you can only have 1 copy of each card).

kram1138:

--- Quote from: kerfluffle on July 25, 2015, 10:43:31 PM ---(e.g. the amount of any card you can have in some games is 4 but in Redemption you can only have 1 copy of each card).

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If you like that, try T2!

kerfluffle:

--- Quote from: kram1138 on July 25, 2015, 11:25:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: kerfluffle on July 25, 2015, 10:43:31 PM ---(e.g. the amount of any card you can have in some games is 4 but in Redemption you can only have 1 copy of each card).

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If you like that, try T2!

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I'm a new player so I want to get used to T1 first :)

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