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Title: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Warrior_Monk on November 27, 2014, 03:14:39 AM
The only discussion to be had is whether it's the best of the past decade.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: EmJayBee83 on November 27, 2014, 07:58:26 AM
Is it better than The Avengers?
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Daniel on November 27, 2014, 10:38:57 AM
Is it better than The Avengers?
It's definitely more artistic than the Avengers.


On a side note, I hated the movie. I've never felt more uncomfortable in a movie theater. Nolan's worst work by far (which, thankfully, isn't saying much at all and I look forward to his future films).
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Warrior_Monk on November 27, 2014, 12:22:04 PM
On a side note, I hated the movie. I've never felt more uncomfortable in a movie theater.
Why is that?
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Alex_Olijar on November 27, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
This topic is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on November 27, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
Is a bad, unnecessary remake of Contact, which wasn't a good film to start with. ..
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: The Guardian on November 27, 2014, 11:55:27 PM
I thought it was interesting, and despite being so long kept me engaged the whole time. Won't go so far as to say it was best of the year though...
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Warrior_Monk on November 28, 2014, 03:31:42 AM
Haters going to hate.

I will say I watched Mockingjay Part I immediately before it, and after watching that pretty much any movie would seem incredible.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: VJ on November 28, 2014, 08:43:58 PM
I will not cast my vote on the movie of the year until I've had a chance to see the new Hobbit movie.  If it can live up to the commercials I've seen so far, it should be a great movie.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Daniel on November 28, 2014, 10:03:56 PM
On a side note, I hated the movie. I've never felt more uncomfortable in a movie theater.
Why is that?
The plot made absolutely no sense; it was pretentious, preachy and had not a single realistic line of dialogue. The visuals were breathtaking however.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: AJ on November 29, 2014, 06:47:28 PM
I will not cast my vote on the movie of the year until I've had a chance to see the new Hobbit movie.  If it can live up to the commercials I've seen so far, it should be a great movie.

Agreed. IMO the last 2 were the best of the last 2 years.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Alex_Olijar on November 29, 2014, 07:49:26 PM
I just threw up at the bias
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Chris on November 29, 2014, 09:15:56 PM
Daniel, what confuses me is that you seem to be a big fan of Nolan, but all your gripes with Interstellar are clear issues with other films of his as well. Nolan films, without exception, are the height of pretension, they're almost always absurdly preachy (none more so than the Dark Knight trilogy), and the dialogue has never felt organic. The first two I overlook with him because in the grand scheme of things, they don't really impact the film making at all, and I don't mind the dialogue because it still makes sense, and fits into his style quite well. I won't argue that Interstellar isn't all of these things, but pretty much all of his films are all of these things, so I'm curious where the divide is for you.

Spoilers Ahead

I loved the first two-thirds or so of Interstellar, to the point where the phrase "greatest movie I've ever seen" started rattling around in my head a little bit. It started to lose me a bit after Michael Cain's death, and further after Matt Damon's character was introduced. I felt that these events caused a major shift in tone from the beginning of the film. It went from hopeful and extremely sentimental to dark pretty rapidly, and it rubbed me the wrong way. Part of this I guess comes from my own expectations; I kind of assumed I knew where the film was heading, and I ended up being wrong. Problem was, I actually preferred my own assumptions over what actually ended up happening. See, I assumed that things would continue with the general tone, with a full on 2001 type of ending. The second planet ends up roughly the same way the first one did ("darn, it doesn't work for some really cool reasons!"), they move on, and get to the third planet and it ends up being aliens. That's what I expected, and because I have so much respect for 2001, I was more than okay with that as an ending. It fit the tone and narrative that Nolan, up to that point, had built.

Instead, we got bookshelves and black holes. To his credit, Nolan sold me on it a whole lot more than what I thought he would, but as well-constructed as most of the film was, it felt weak. Most of the plot holes are directly related to the events inside the black hole, and it feels unfortunate that so much could have been avoided. Maybe I'm not being fair because my expectations were dashed, but it just felt weak by comparison. I still felt it was an excellent movie though; I liked it a lot more than Daniel or Olijar did.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: Warrior_Monk on November 29, 2014, 10:49:33 PM
See, I assumed that things would continue with the general tone, with a full on 2001 type of ending. The second planet ends up roughly the same way the first one did ("darn, it doesn't work for some really cool reasons!"), they move on, and get to the third planet and it ends up being aliens. That's what I expected, and because I have so much respect for 2001, I was more than okay with that as an ending. It fit the tone and narrative that Nolan, up to that point, had built.
I'm really glad it didn't. I didn't want a 2001 remake. It ended largely how I expected it to end: the space time continuum was kept in tact while still blowing minds due to relativity.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on November 30, 2014, 12:58:50 AM
There's a good quote by Damon Lindelof, in regards to the movie Prometheus (a superior film in my opinion):

Quote
Blade Runner might not have done well financially when it first came out, but people are still talking about it because it was infused with all these big ideas. Scott was also talking about very big themes in Prometheus. It was being driven by people who wanted the answers to huge questions. But I thought that we could do that without ever getting too pretentious. Nobody wants to see a movie where people are floating in space talking about the meaning of life.

And that's essentially all we got with Interstellar. The Dark Knight trilogy might have been preachy, yes, but it had lots of great qualities that clearly outshine that element. Interstellar was pure pretension, which I'd argue is a first for Nolan. Yes, his films are consistently serious and purposefully complex, but he's no Lars Von Trier or Terrence Malick when it comes to injecting pure cynicism and disdain for the general audience into his films on a regular basis (there's a reason his fanbase is mostly composed of teenage males).

AGAIN, I'm not necessarily saying it's a bad movie. It's totally beautiful and I love the Grapes of Wrath feel throughout. I suppose I expected more of a mind twister and less of an unholy marriage between Spielberg's sentiment and Kubrick's grandeur (the latter of whom I am totally a huge fan of, pretentiousness included) with the big twist being My god, HE was the ghost in Murph's bedroom.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Alex_Olijar on November 30, 2014, 11:30:25 AM
And, to be fair, they hinted him being the ghost basically the whole movie.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year
Post by: LukeChips on December 01, 2014, 11:27:15 AM
I will not cast my vote on the movie of the year until I've had a chance to see the new Hobbit movie.
Same here. but it was a great movie that kept me thinking.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 03, 2014, 09:24:53 AM
Yea, one would think that in the future Morse code would have died out!
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 03, 2014, 09:23:10 PM
I think they really wanted this movie to be called "Gravity".  :P
Differences between Gravity and Interstellar:
Interstellar had:
Plot
Great characters
Themes

Gravity had:
Random space junk action
Darth Vader noises

Similarities between Gravity and Interstellar:
They both take place in space.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 03, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
Now I know Westy doesn't have good taste in movies.


 ;)
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 03, 2014, 09:38:04 PM
Yeah, I hated Gravity almost as much as The Avengers.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 03, 2014, 10:29:14 PM
Yeah, I hated Gravity almost as much as The Avengers.
oh noes, I would love to debate movies with you on like youtube

EDIT: I didn't write "oh noes" hahahaha apparently oh-m-jee isn't allowed on here.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: EmJayBee83 on December 04, 2014, 07:17:54 AM
Yeah, I hated Gravity almost as much as The Avengers.
My question is whether you like Interstellar more than your previous favorite Nolan film?  So which is it, Interstellar -or- Batman Begins?
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 04, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
Batman Begins was sooo awesome!
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 04, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Yeah, I hated Gravity almost as much as The Avengers.
My question is whether you like Interstellar more than your previous favorite Nolan film?  So which is it, Interstellar -or- Batman Begins?
Haven't seen it enough yet. I think BB will likely win out due to themes of identity, fear, etc. while Interstellar just had "LOVE TRANSCENDS EVERYTHING YAAAAAAY", which wasn't even that well done if I'm being totally honest.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 04, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Ha ha, I never looked at it that way, it's kind of like a movie about Jesus! :preach:
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 04, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Ha ha, I never looked at it that way, it's kind of like a movie about Jesus! :preach:

*sigh*
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Alex_Olijar on December 04, 2014, 06:16:58 PM
Picking a favorite Nolan film is as futile as picking a favorite Scorcese.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 04, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Picking a favorite Nolan film is as futile as picking a favorite Scorcese.

1) Goodfellas, 2) Wolf, 3) Last Temptation, 4) Taxi Driver
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: TheHobbit13 on December 04, 2014, 06:57:53 PM
Never heard of three of those.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 04, 2014, 10:05:00 PM
I've heard of two of them.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 04, 2014, 10:34:27 PM
Wolf of Wall Street and The Last Temptation of Christ were abbreviated, apologies.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: EmJayBee83 on December 04, 2014, 10:34:37 PM
Picking a favorite Nolan film is as futile as picking a favorite Scorcese.
I personally prefer Martin, although I could see someone picking Domenica.

1) Goodfellas, 2) Wolf, 3) Last Temptation, 4) Taxi Driver
No Raging Bull?
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Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 04, 2014, 10:40:20 PM
Wow, totally forgot he did Raging Bull!
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Alex_Olijar on December 04, 2014, 11:11:23 PM
Point Made. Note that his only Oscar winning film isn't even mentioned yet.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 05, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
What is it?
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 05, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
What is it?
The Departed
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: browarod on December 05, 2014, 12:24:24 PM
Of all those movies I think The Departed is the only one I've actually seen, lol. I thought it was pretty good.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 05, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
Never heard of it
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Alex_Olijar on December 05, 2014, 01:17:28 PM
I wouldn't expect Martin to have a big following in this crowd but I think the comparison was worthy.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: EmJayBee83 on December 05, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
Point Made. Note that his only Oscar winning film isn't even mentioned yet.
That's because The Departed is mediocre at best.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 05, 2014, 07:46:57 PM
How, what is it about?
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 05, 2014, 09:09:26 PM
How, what is it about?
http://bit.ly/1vxHXlH (http://bit.ly/1vxHXlH)
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 06, 2014, 02:30:54 PM
Ha ha very funny, looks like a cool movie,
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Alex_Olijar on December 06, 2014, 09:31:37 PM
Point Made. Note that his only Oscar winning film isn't even mentioned yet.
That's because The Departed is mediocre at best.

Got to love career achievement oscars
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 06, 2014, 09:56:34 PM
Those are the worst, I wonder if Interstellar will be nominated for any awards?
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Chris on December 08, 2014, 02:28:47 PM
Ha ha, I never looked at it that way, it's kind of like a movie about Jesus! :preach:

Well, no. Nolan is strictly non-religious, which probably helps explain why he's always veered away from any and all religious themes in his films, despite much of the subject matter going hand in hand with it (case in point: Interstellar).

That's because The Departed is mediocre at best.

A 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.5 on IMDB, and four Oscars CAN be wrong! Also, you're all misspelling the title. It's "The Depahted". Get it right.

Those are the worst, I wonder if Interstellar will be nominated for any awards?

Interstellar is going to win pretty much all of the technical awards this season. There are a handful of movies that rival it, but really, there's too much hype surrounding Nolan right now, and even if there wasn't, it's still better than anything else released this year on a technical basis. The thing I'm most excited to see in the tech department right now is sound design, and that's mostly to see whether the Academy "gets" Nolan's decision to have some of the dialogue get drowned out by the music and sound effects. It'll pick up nominations for Best Picture, Best Director (which will be Nolan's first), and maybe even Best Original Screenplay, but I'm not holding my breath for him to pick up his first Oscar win in any of these categories any time soon (though if it's any of them, it'll be Best Director). This is the first film Nolan's done that's pretty clear Oscar-bait, and it's well-executed enough that it'll get him what he wants.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 08, 2014, 02:50:48 PM
I wonder what his rivals will be for any awards?
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 08, 2014, 09:07:13 PM
Those are the worst, I wonder if Interstellar will be nominated for any awards?

Interstellar is going to win pretty much all of the technical awards this season. There are a handful of movies that rival it, but really, there's too much hype surrounding Nolan right now, and even if there wasn't, it's still better than anything else released this year on a technical basis. The thing I'm most excited to see in the tech department right now is sound design, and that's mostly to see whether the Academy "gets" Nolan's decision to have some of the dialogue get drowned out by the music and sound effects. It'll pick up nominations for Best Picture, Best Director (which will be Nolan's first), and maybe even Best Original Screenplay, but I'm not holding my breath for him to pick up his first Oscar win in any of these categories any time soon (though if it's any of them, it'll be Best Director). This is the first film Nolan's done that's pretty clear Oscar-bait, and it's well-executed enough that it'll get him what he wants.
I really think Interstellar deserves the Sound Design award and the Best Visual Effects, but I highly doubt it will be nominated for Best Picture or even Best Director. (Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is also a frontrunner for visual effects I imagine). Also, having read the screenplay (which is surprisingly tiny by the way), I don't think it has a chance in the Best Original Screenplay department. Too much competition this year.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 08, 2014, 09:28:53 PM
I didn't see dawn of the planet of the apes,   :( but I looked good...
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 08, 2014, 10:30:45 PM
I didn't see dawn of the planet of the apes,   :( but I looked good...
One of my favorites of the year, along with Boyhood, The Grand Budapest Hotel and Noah.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Warrior_Monk on December 08, 2014, 10:35:34 PM
I didn't see dawn of the planet of the apes,   :( but I looked good...
One of my favorites of the year, along with Boyhood, The Grand Budapest Hotel and Noah.
Grand Budapest Hotel was fantastic, I need to see Boyhood. Noah was just okay.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 08, 2014, 10:41:45 PM
I didn't see dawn of the planet of the apes,   :( but I looked good...
One of my favorites of the year, along with Boyhood, The Grand Budapest Hotel and Noah.
Grand Budapest Hotel was fantastic, I need to see Boyhood. Noah was just okay.
The second act (of Noah) was weak, however atmospherically and creatively speaking I was in love with it. Boyhood is an instant classic and made me realize Ethan Hawke is a great actor.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 09, 2014, 07:53:15 AM
My sister said boyhood was really good, but to me it looks kind of boring...
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Prof Underwood on December 10, 2014, 01:40:06 AM
I wonder what his rivals will be for any awards?
I'm pretty sure that the conclusion of the Hobbit will be up there for quite a few categories.

made me realize Ethan Hawke is a great actor.
Have you never seen "Dead Poet's Society"?
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: LukeChips on December 10, 2014, 10:17:14 AM
I so cant wait for the Hobbit to come out!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 18, 2014, 05:04:14 PM
Just got back from the cinema. Hobbit 3 was a bit anticlimactic and overall plotless.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: EmJayBee83 on December 18, 2014, 05:10:23 PM
I need to read the other two books of the Hobbit trilogy before I can go to the movie.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: browarod on December 18, 2014, 05:22:06 PM
Just got back from the cinema. Hobbit 3 was a bit anticlimactic and overall plotless.
This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I don't know how they let PJ convince them to make it a 3-parter anyway.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Daniel on December 18, 2014, 07:07:12 PM
Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: browarod on December 19, 2014, 10:07:23 AM
Gotta love all the negs being thrown around recently in this thread, lol.

There is now a Hobbit feedback thread where that movie can be discussed, we should get this thread back on the original topic.

I have not actually seen Interstellar. If there's a way I can see it cheaply/free (maybe Red Box after it releases on disc) I might check it out, but based on people's comments so far I don't think I'll pay to see it in a theater.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: Chris on December 19, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
Go see it in a theater. It's some of the best cinematography of the year, and anyone who says otherwise should not be taken seriously. It's a gorgeous film, and it really deserves to be experienced in a theater, regardless of opinions on plot.
Title: Re: Interstellar is the best movie of the year (spoilers, etc.)
Post by: EmJayBee83 on December 21, 2014, 07:22:12 AM
Go see it in a theater. It's some of the best cinematography of the year, and anyone who says otherwise should not be taken seriously. It's a gorgeous film, and it really deserves to be experienced in a theater, regardless of opinions on plot.
Blah, blah, blah.

They said the same thing about Gravity, but it looked just fine on my 4" cell phone screen. You do need to be willing to spend $5 of so to get some good earbuds from Big Lots if you want to have movie theater quality sound.



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