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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Deck Concepts => Topic started by: Ironisaac on April 10, 2018, 01:23:25 PM
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With all the awesome cards that have been revealed so far, what do you think you will be running this year? I realize that a ton of cards haven't been spoiled yet, but i'd be interested to hear what people are thinking about running.
For me, I am definitely running a blue genesis deck, at least to start with. I love the new support for the Abraham theme, the new blue slave, and the new CoMC. I'm working on a deck to work with the new Pit of Dothan right now. May not be top tier, but the shenanigans you can pull off with that thing make it worth building a few combos into a deck, at least for fun!
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Revelation Angels a.k.a the best mono-brigade offense in the game. 8)
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Flood survivors for sure.
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Judges red will without question be formidable. Simply having bravery, triumph, edict, dagger, faith of samson, faith of barak, faith of gideon on demand make them very powerful.. pretty sure everything is fast now so a splash defense such as high priest ananias, goliath, outsiders black gold, with abandoned plot to kill darkness then vittles sabbath breaker scattered .. cbn options uzzah of course and fire foxes. Maybe hypocrisy noah for ANB memes
Priests of Christ for the post anb rescue woman with child Moses Justin martyr etc yes this all fits in one deck will it work? Definitely will it be the best? Maybe. Will it be the most fun? No Flood Survivors and Mill will be the most fun for me .. And, if they make it through testing.. #JETPRIEST
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I feel like I will run some sort of Throne variant with a bunch of territory destruction. Grail, Jephthah, aocp, Jehu+Jehu's Sword, valley of salt, etc. Genyptians could be fun also.
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CoL FTW
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CoL FTW
It would be pretty amazing if someone built a balanced CoL/AoG deck that just stomped everything... ;D
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Ruth
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CoL FTW
It would be pretty amazing if someone built a balanced CoL/AoG deck that just stomped everything... ;D
I bet someone could make it through states and regionals without knowing it was nerfed
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Maybe a State...Regionals is kinda doubtful IMO.
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I plan on running straight O.T. Red. Will it be worse than throne? Yes. Will it be more fun? Probably.
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We have an upcoming Land of Redemption article that will interest you greatly in that case. 8)
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Judges.
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The first thing I'm building is howbrokenisANB.dek
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Gold NT heroes / Persian defense.
Just kidding. Guardian has a great point about Revie silver being ridiculously strong (Flaming Sword helps too). But I have a couple of other good NT heroes offenses that’re nothing but a spearhead and breaks through many defenses. Defenses I like is splashed black splashed and splashed gray.
But I’ll probably end up going with my fave heroes and brigade: red OT warriors.
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Judges red will without question be formidable. Simply having bravery, triumph, edict, dagger, faith of samson, faith of barak, faith of gideon on demand make them very powerful.. pretty sure everything is fast now so a splash defense such as high priest ananias, goliath, outsiders black gold, with abandoned plot to kill darkness then vittles sabbath breaker scattered .. cbn options uzzah of course and fire foxes. Maybe hypocrisy noah for ANB memes
Priests of Christ for the post anb rescue woman with child Moses Justin martyr etc yes this all fits in one deck will it work? Definitely will it be the best? Maybe. Will it be the most fun? No Flood Survivors and Mill will be the most fun for me .. And, if they make it through testing.. #JETPRIEST
New Othniel spoiled.. I rest my case ;D
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I plan on running straight O.T. Red. Will it be worse than throne? Yes. Will it be more fun? Probably.
Can confirm it was more fun for me ;)
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Judges red will without question be formidable. Simply having bravery, triumph, edict, dagger, faith of samson, faith of barak, faith of gideon on demand make them very powerful.. pretty sure everything is fast now so a splash defense such as high priest ananias, goliath, outsiders black gold, with abandoned plot to kill darkness then vittles sabbath breaker scattered .. cbn options uzzah of course and fire foxes. Maybe hypocrisy noah for ANB memes
Priests of Christ for the post anb rescue woman with child Moses Justin martyr etc yes this all fits in one deck will it work? Definitely will it be the best? Maybe. Will it be the most fun? No Flood Survivors and Mill will be the most fun for me .. And, if they make it through testing.. #JETPRIEST
New Othniel spoiled.. I rest my case ;D
Where was Othniel spoiled at?
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Judges red will without question be formidable. Simply having bravery, triumph, edict, dagger, faith of samson, faith of barak, faith of gideon on demand make them very powerful.. pretty sure everything is fast now so a splash defense such as high priest ananias, goliath, outsiders black gold, with abandoned plot to kill darkness then vittles sabbath breaker scattered .. cbn options uzzah of course and fire foxes. Maybe hypocrisy noah for ANB memes
Priests of Christ for the post anb rescue woman with child Moses Justin martyr etc yes this all fits in one deck will it work? Definitely will it be the best? Maybe. Will it be the most fun? No Flood Survivors and Mill will be the most fun for me .. And, if they make it through testing.. #JETPRIEST
New Othniel spoiled.. I rest my case ;D
Where was Othniel spoiled at?
Now here 8) Othniel (http://landofredemption.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Othniel.png)
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I plan on running straight O.T. Red. Will it be worse than throne? Yes. Will it be more fun? Probably.
That's been me for a few years now :laugh:
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I'll be the guy who puts Throne in my Red deck just to mess with my opponent.
#WoesBait
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I'll be the guy who puts Throne in my Red deck just to mess with my opponent.
#WoesBait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo)
for real though, if there is an easy way to pul throne out of your reserve, red has david and jehu that can use throne, and they have counsel, jehu's sword, and not alone. wouldn't be that bad.
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Red deck, with Jehu 😉
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I'll be the guy who puts Throne in my Red deck just to mess with my opponent.
#WoesBait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo)
for real though, if there is an easy way to pul throne out of your reserve, red has david and jehu that can use throne, and they have counsel, jehu's sword, and not alone. wouldn't be that bad.
It's my belief that any Red deck that has David and Counsel of Abigail (so, all of the OT ones) should also have Abigail. Basically a D3 hero that stops most chump blocks and can play at least one of your best battlewinners? Yes please
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I'll be the guy who puts Throne in my Red deck just to mess with my opponent.
#WoesBait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo)
for real though, if there is an easy way to pul throne out of your reserve, red has david and jehu that can use throne, and they have counsel, jehu's sword, and not alone. wouldn't be that bad.
It's my belief that any Red deck that has David and Counsel of Abigail (so, all of the OT ones) should also have Abigail. Basically a D3 hero that stops most chump blocks and can play at least one of your best battlewinners? Yes please
The big problem is Unity on Benaiah and maybe other cards in the set. She's amazing because drawing is always nice, but it's a tossup on the unity or her draw.
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I'll be the guy who puts Throne in my Red deck just to mess with my opponent.
#WoesBait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo)
for real though, if there is an easy way to pul throne out of your reserve, red has david and jehu that can use throne, and they have counsel, jehu's sword, and not alone. wouldn't be that bad.
I can tell you there's only four cards left to preview that have purple on them, and none of them have Reserve access. So pretty much the only option is Covenant of Prayer (Or Zion, but you're not playing a red deck then)
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The big problem is Unity on Benaiah and maybe other cards in the set. She's amazing because drawing is always nice, but it's a tossup on the unity or her draw.
I was describing pre-FoM decks ;) I doubt I'd include Abby in a deck with Benaiah, but I can see a couple reasons for doing so. Like if you run I Am Holy to complement Jehu, or if Hypocrisy or Shrine is in your deck.
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Ok, so after looking over everything again, I've decided on a few decks I'm going to be running at the beginning of the season. I'll post some ideas and deck lists I've been kicking around in the deck concepts section in a bit.
I played a few games with a blue genesis Abraham search engine offense that tried to abuse pit of dothan. Pit didn't work quite as much as i'd like, but it was still super fun. Probably won't play it at high level tournaments, but I probably will at a local or district.
I haven't played any games with this yet, but ruth with a few judges looks pretty good with the addition of Jephthah's Daughter and Death of Family. There are so many battle extenders in that deck, and several of them are easy to recur. I'm not sure how well it would actually preform, but it seems pretty strong. I'll have to test it out some time to see how well it does before I rank it.
My final deck I'll be playing utilizes my winners card, The Mighty Warrior (http://www.cactusforums.com/new-card-ideas/warrior-in-training-and-mighty-warrior-combo-card!/msg582127/?topicseen#new)! It's a red/purple banding deck with Isaiah, and that's all I'm saying. ;)
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Can't wait to see what you've made, Isaac!! I'm sure it's going to be awesome 8)
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I haven't played any games with this yet, but ruth with a few judges looks pretty good with the addition of Jephthah's Daughter and Death of Family. There are so many battle extenders in that deck, and several of them are easy to recur. I'm not sure how well it would actually preform, but it seems pretty strong. I'll have to test it out some time to see how well it does before I rank it.
I think the Barak/Jael package fits really well. I'm holding out for the last card in the Judges trifecta to be Deborah so hopefully I'm not wrong. That deck really likes CtB.
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I think the Barak/Jael package fits really well. I'm holding out for the last card in the Judges trifecta to be Deborah so hopefully I'm not wrong. That deck really likes CtB.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but Deborah is a better fit in an upcoming set so we won't see her in FoM. Soon though. Maybe sooner than you think. ;)
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Maybe sooner than you think. ;)
Two sets per year confirmed 8)
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Maybe sooner than you think. ;)
Two sets per year confirmed 8)
Wouldn't that be nice! ::)
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Of course!
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I think the Barak/Jael package fits really well. I'm holding out for the last card in the Judges trifecta to be Deborah so hopefully I'm not wrong. That deck really likes CtB.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but Deborah is a better fit in an upcoming set so we won't see her in FoM. Soon though. Maybe sooner than you think. ;)
Exciting potential there...
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Must mean that the next set is a Judges set... That's good. Judges could certainly use a boost. ::)
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So now that everything's revealed I've got a few ideas.
The first, and the one that I've been thinking about longest, is flood/antediluvian. While losing Nephilim was a bit of a disappointment to this deck, I think there's still plenty of potential there, especially if there's a bit of defensive splash. Also ANB.
Similarly, Patriarchs looks really promising. The new Abe stuff looks great, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it do really well this year. I'm thinking about doing something akin to the list Isaac posted the other day, possibly paired with a canaanite defense.
As much as I'm sure straight throne will be stronger, I'm probably going to try one or both of Thronebernacle and Thronesaiah. Throwing Ahimaaz and Phineas into a red-focused Throne deck makes a lot of sense, and at that point (and with the fort searches already in place) it's not a far leap to add Tabernacle to the deck and Zeal to reserve. Dave is a musician, too, so he can trigger Tab. It's also great with Purging Evil, although it doesn't get the draw.
I mentioned Thronesaiah the other day, but Mighty Warrior is great at bringing the two archetypes together.
Also Mill Egypt, but my brother has promised to stop playing me if I use it against him, so maybe it won't be my main deck :P
Up till now I've primarily been a T1 player, but this year I'm going to start branching into T2. I'm planning to build a Tabernacle/Moabite deck (since R&D is going to make T1 Tab a bit rough).
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(since R&D is going to make T1 Tab a bit rough).
You don't have to play Glory right away or even put an Artifact in Tabernacle...just let it sit there empty giving you infinite Zeal while your opponent mumbles about his useless R&D. ;D
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(since R&D is going to make T1 Tab a bit rough).
You don't have to play Glory right away or even put an Artifact in Tabernacle...just let it sit there empty giving you infinite Zeal while your opponent mumbles about his useless R&D. ;D
Yeah, I almost never put anything in mine. I'll take an Aaron's staff if I can get one, but it's not really a big deal if not.
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(since R&D is going to make T1 Tab a bit rough).
You don't have to play Glory right away or even put an Artifact in Tabernacle...just let it sit there empty giving you infinite Zeal while your opponent mumbles about his useless R&D. ;D
True. That said, with how I'd built my T1 deck, not having Tabernacle is a serious detriment and Glory is a tutor - unless I'm specifically playing around R&D, I'm not going to sit on a Glory if I don't already have Tab. Also the second art slot is like half the reason I like the archetype so much :P
Or, ya'know, they drop Shipwreck/any fort destruction (which I expect will see play, with the cities and Babel in particular) and R&D after the Glory recurs it.
Can it be played/built around? Absolutely. But I personally still think I'd rather play it in T2 where I can run multiple copies of G&O and Zeal so that it doesn't hurt as much when it does go down.
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Can it be played/built around? Absolutely. But I personally still think I'd rather play it in T2 where I can run multiple copies of G&O and Zeal so that it doesn't hurt as much when it does go down.
Or you know, just stick an extra copy of The Tabernacle in Reserve just to be safe... ::)
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Can it be played/built around? Absolutely. But I personally still think I'd rather play it in T2 where I can run multiple copies of G&O and Zeal so that it doesn't hurt as much when it does go down.
Or you know, just stick an extra copy of The Tabernacle in Reserve just to be safe... ::)
TBH I actually considered throwing a second in the main deck. As with all the questionable deckbuilding decisions for that deck, I justified it as "worst case, it's Tabernacle fodder!" ;D
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I have found the most effective method for Forts I want to get quick is to run 1 in the main and 1 in the Reserve. That gives me 3 opportunities to get it opening hand (1 copy plus 2 Covenant of Prayers). Then, if I draw the main deck copy first, the other copy isn't clogging my deck and I can retrieve it later only if needed.
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