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Title: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 16, 2009, 04:40:28 PM
It seems to me like a defense such as this could be very effective; see what you guys think.

Fallen Warrior
Goliath
Lot's Wife
Philistine Armor Bearer
Philistine Priests
The Twelve-Fingered Giant
  Babel
  Bringing Fear
  Danites Attack
  Foolish Advice
  Joseph in Prison
  Net
  Pride of Simon
  Worship of Milcom

Saph
  Gold Shield
  Namaan's Chariot and Horses
Lahmi
  Wonders Forgotten
Ishbibenob
  Great Image
  Midianite Attack

Sites
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylon x4
Ashdod
Pergamum
One non-DR access fort depending on offense

Protection
Temple of Dagon
Altar of Dagon
Color Guard LS (on Pergamum of course)
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Prof Underwood on July 16, 2009, 05:08:36 PM
9 ECs is good
13 EEs is way too many
8 sites is good (assuming a 63 deck)

I agree the Dagon stuff isn't worth it

I agree that until the protection of TexP comes out Philistines won't be viable at the top levels.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Alex_Olijar on July 16, 2009, 06:16:30 PM
Protection?

Needs more Hormah
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: lightningninja on July 16, 2009, 06:19:48 PM
Yeah, just wait for the next set. This is close to the defense I'll be using.  ;D
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 16, 2009, 08:16:44 PM
Ah, so the Phillies do get protection! Haha! I am happy. ;D
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: lightningninja on July 16, 2009, 08:18:10 PM
Phillies already have protection...  :o

But that's not what the fuss is about.  ::)
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 16, 2009, 08:21:13 PM
I guess it's probably the best idea to just shut my face about deck ideas until I get an idea of what's in the next set. :P
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: lightningninja on July 16, 2009, 08:23:22 PM
Probably. My deck won't be the same. Ever. :-*
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Isildur on July 16, 2009, 08:39:22 PM
Well it helps combat Aocp  ::) And really guys I dont think we need to keep on spoiling high places for every one  :P
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on July 18, 2009, 11:40:29 AM
Philies gain no protection next set.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Isildur on July 18, 2009, 12:28:35 PM
Philies gain no protection next set.
We will all find out in 2 weeks
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Prof Underwood on August 02, 2009, 11:06:27 PM
Philies gain no protection next set.
We will all find out in 2 weeks
Unfortunately RR was correct, and therefore Phillistines will probably continue to be avoided by top decks despite some nice new cards.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 02, 2009, 11:12:12 PM
You really underestimate them.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 02, 2009, 11:14:34 PM
Who needs protection when you can recur them?
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Prof Underwood on August 02, 2009, 11:24:03 PM
You really underestimate them.
Who needs protection when you can recur them?
You can only recur from the discard pile, and there are other places where they will end up instead.  And if you think I underestimate them, then make a deck with them and lets play :)
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 02, 2009, 11:26:45 PM
I have. Do you want to play the t-1 or t-2 version?
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: The Guardian on August 02, 2009, 11:31:16 PM
For the record, I used a Philistine deck before they were cool...(i.e. before TexP came out)  ;D

Being that I rarely play T1 2P, I only played it in one tournament but it did fairly well, and it held its own in several online games I played also.

Here is the defense portion of the deck:

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan

Red Sites: 1
   Ashdod

Purple Sites: 1
   Pergamum

Artifacts: 1   
   Unholy Writ   

Curses: 3
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Go Into Captivity (Crimson)
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)

Crimson Evil Characters: 1
   Ishbibenob

Gold Evil Characters: 1
   Lahmi

Black Evil Characters: 5
   Fallen Warrior
   Goliath
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Priests
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Gray Evil Characters: 1
   Saph

Brown Evil Characters: 1
   Delilah

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Torment

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 1
   Midianite Attack

Gold Evil Enhancements: 1
   Wonders Forgotten

Black Evil Enhancements: 3
   Bringing Fear
   Foolish Advice
   Goliath's Spear

Gray Evil Enhancements: 2
   Balaam's Disobedience
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses

Brown Evil Enhancements: 2
   Gibeonite Trickery
   Haman's Plot

Definitely going to be revamping this deck with TexP for the upcoming season!
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Prof Underwood on August 02, 2009, 11:46:45 PM
I have. Do you want to play the t-1 or t-2 version?
T1.  I'm not really very good at T2, and I haven't thought through whether Philistines would be viable in that format.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 02, 2009, 11:48:47 PM
Ok. My deck for t-1 is less polished, but I still like it a lot. My RTS computer is fried right now. Once it gets back up, Ill get the deck on there and play you with it.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: lightningninja on August 02, 2009, 11:49:34 PM
I just want to have 5 Garrisons, 5 Armorbearers and a few other giants. It's nice to have that many generics.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 02, 2009, 11:50:43 PM
5x Armorbearer isn't worth it. Only one unique is even worth recurring.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: lightningninja on August 02, 2009, 11:51:25 PM
Who says I want to recur my uniques?  ;)
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 02, 2009, 11:53:42 PM
What good is Armorbearer unless you want to?
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: lightningninja on August 02, 2009, 11:56:50 PM
To always have a garrison.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 03, 2009, 12:02:05 AM
....That's a waste of x5 imo. To each his own.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 14, 2009, 08:43:58 PM
Go ahead and take it; it needs updating with TxP anyway. :P

(Offense isn't important. ::))
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Bryon on August 15, 2009, 01:25:59 AM
Offense isn't important!???!  :)

If you are using Philistine site lock, you must have an offensive way to take out their access sites.  Gold (vengeance of EF) or Blue Genesis (Jacob's dream) work best.  But Green Prophets (Hidden Treasures/Edge of the Sword) is OK, too.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Master KChief on August 15, 2009, 01:33:46 AM
blue is pretty good. if you go the jacob/jacobs dream route, you can use well reopened, and rtc as well. :)
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: Bryon on August 15, 2009, 02:32:03 AM
Good point about Well Reopened.  I'd forgotten about how helpful that is in a site deck.  I usually use it to reuse my Hormah more rapidly, but it can help get the Banquet Hall out sooner, too.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: JDS on August 15, 2009, 09:37:55 PM
Philistines actually work well with Purple sites because of Overwhelmed and Goliath's Armor (with Pride of Simon to recur them).

If you're worried about John and TGT, use Color Guard, and maybe Simon/JiP.
Title: Re: Philistine Site Lockout
Post by: crustpope on August 16, 2009, 01:02:20 AM
Protection?

Needs more Hormah

And Kir
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