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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Deck Concepts => Topic started by: Scoobug on October 09, 2010, 04:04:28 PM
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Hello it's scoobug and I realized that I had some cards with capture abilities! What do they do and where do the cards that are captured go? Thanks for your help!
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Captured characters are placed in Land of Bondage and treated as lost souls. They go in the Land of Bondage of the person who played the capture card, unless the card says otherwise (Dungeon of Malchiah, for example).
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Captured characters are placed in Land of Bondage and treated as lost souls. They go in the Land of Bondage of the person who played the capture card, unless the card says otherwise (Dungeon of Malchiah, for example).
Also there are a fortress call Raider's Camp, it said whenever you capture a hero, instead of putting into your land of bondage, place it there instead and when your opponent is going for a rescue attempt, instead of giving them a soul, you will be giving all those captured hero back.
Michael
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That means instead of placing it in your Land of Bondage, you would place it in Raider's Camp. When they win a battle, you give them their hero back and not a Lost Soul.
Daniel
;D
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That means instead of placing it in your Land of Bondage, you would place it in Raider's Camp. When they win a battle, you give them their hero back and not a Lost Soul.
Daniel
;D
Thank you for clarification.
ML
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I must have missed your post man. You did a good job tell'n him how it worked.
Daniel
;D
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Hey thanks guys I was wondering if anyone can explain ignore/immunity/repel? I'm just not sure. Thanks again for your help!
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characters that are being ignored/repelled cannot enter battle at all.
characters that are immune to other characters cannot be harmed both the characters they are immune to.
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characters that are being ignored/repelled cannot enter battle at all.
characters that are immune to other characters cannot be harmed both the characters they are immune to.
There are few types of ignore and immune
repel and ignore is the same meaning, however with ignore there are ignore during battle and ignore when enter battle.
For example: ignore during battle
When I go in with a Gold hero like the Good Samaritan, and you block with an evil character, when I have initiative, I played Kindness "Negate immunity on evil characters and ignore one brigade, opponent draw 1 (or two if use by a Samaritan).
In this battle, you are being push back, but you can play unlimited enhancement that targets everything except for my hero until you negate my enhancement.
However,
When you have 2 lost souls and there are two different brigade in play, then I went in with John, which is a Garden Tomb hero, and Garden cause John to ignore evil characters that doesn't have two of the same brigade in play, therefore, you cannot block and technically I got a free soul that way.
With Immune means you cannot harm the character, however there are initiative for immunity.
For example:
You come in with Lydia, 5/4, and I block with Red dragon 6/5. Obviously you have initiative, therefore you play enhancement that doesn't target my red dragon, however once I am not killing your hero (stalemate), then it is my initiative to play the next enhancement.
If you have any more question about these ruling, check out the REG to get clear ruling. Thanks.
Elders and Tourney host, please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.
ML.
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So what happens when you play an ignore/repel enhancement on a character already in battle?
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From the REG, Ignore: Default Conditions:
"Unless stated otherwise, cards already in the Field of Battle when targeted by an ignore card remain but have no effect. (See Withdraw from Battle for special abilities that force characters to leave the Field of Battle.)"
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From the REG, Ignore: Default Conditions:
"Unless stated otherwise, cards already in the Field of Battle when targeted by an ignore card remain but have no effect. (See Withdraw from Battle for special abilities that force characters to leave the Field of Battle.)"
wow, didn't know that. i assume they are not affected by the battle outcome? aka- if a lone EC is ignored halfway through battle, and cannot interrupt it, is he discarded at the end of battle or returned to territory?
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returned to territory is how we always played it but i could be wrong
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From the REG, Ignore: Default Conditions:
"Unless stated otherwise, cards already in the Field of Battle when targeted by an ignore card remain but have no effect. (See Withdraw from Battle for special abilities that force characters to leave the Field of Battle.)"
wow, didn't know that. i assume they are not affected by the battle outcome? aka- if a lone EC is ignored halfway through battle, and cannot interrupt it, is he discarded at the end of battle or returned to territory?
The Evil Character should be push back, because if the EC is being ignore, no one is harm, however when hero is immune to the EC, then if the hero's offense is bigger than the evil character's defense, then the EC still died.
so what I tried to say is that ignore, no one gets harm, immune could cause a character to be discard. Thank you
ML>
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hmmm, i'm mildly confused
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Ok,
When a Hero is ignoring an evil character in battle, then that evil character is push back unless they interrupt the ignore ability.
When a Evil character repels a hero, that hero push back to territory unless the hero interrupt the repel ability.
In these both example, no character in battle can be discard unless you use a dominant.
Now with immunity,
If a evil character is immune to a hero, no matter what that hero do is pointless unless they interrupt the ability, however, in case that the evil character has a higher offense than the hero's defense, then the hero gets discarded.
Ignore, no one gets harm
Immune, the loser is discarded.
Hope this is much more clarify, if not play a game with some advance player who has this kind of deck and let them show you. Thank you.
ML.
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so without enhancements, doms, etc..... elhanan can kill emperor nero and get a lost soul? (mutual destruction, i know)
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Don't listen to him, he's just muddying the waters. Listen to DDice.
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so can emperor nero be defeated by a lone hero simply by the numbers or not?
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No He Cannot.
Ok,
When a Hero is ignoring an evil character in battle, then that evil character is push back unless they interrupt the ignore ability.
When a Evil character repels a hero, that hero push back to territory unless the hero interrupt the repel ability.
In these both example, no character in battle can be discard unless you use a dominant.
Ignore/Repel abilities do not remove anyone from battle. You simply treat the EC like it isn't there.
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Think of it this way: A character that is immune to something has infinite toughness against that. So, for example, Emperor Nero is */Infinity against a lone hero. Nothing the hero does can hurt him, whether abilities or by the numbers, but his strength can still kill the hero if their toughness isn't high enough. You can get around his immunity with an interrupt or "negate immunity" ability, though.
A character that is being ignored basically has -/-, i.e.: the numbers don't matter. For example, No Need for Spices on Lydia would make Sabbath Breaker's stats and anything played on him have no effect on her, or in other words -/-. She is walking around him, and he can't touch her (unless he has an interrupt).
Does that help?
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Think of it this way: A character that is immune to something has infinite toughness against that. So, for example, Emperor Nero is */Infinity against a lone hero. Nothing the hero does can hurt him, whether abilities or by the numbers, but his strength can still kill the hero if their toughness isn't high enough. You can get around his immunity with an interrupt or "negate immunity" ability, though.
A character that is being ignored basically has -/-, i.e.: the numbers don't matter. For example, No Need for Spices on Lydia would make Sabbath Breaker's stats and anything played on him have no effect on her, or in other words -/-. She is walking around him, and he can't touch her (unless he has an interrupt).
Does that help?
Thank you for interpretation.
ML
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ok, this thread was confusing. i didn't think anyone could be discarded if they were immune. thanks for clearing that up