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Title: Top decks?
Post by: Jonesy on June 08, 2014, 06:36:39 PM
What are the majority of top decks running these days?
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on June 08, 2014, 07:54:33 PM
In no particular order:
The Deck (Prophets) (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/complete-decks/t1-2p-top-cut-(4th-seed-6th-overall)-the-deck-2013/)
The Deck (Judges)  (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/national-tournament-winners/2013-t1-2p-2nd-place/)
Genesis (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/national-tournament-winners/2013-t1-2p-1st-place-deck/)
Disciples

Yeah, for whatever reason people haven't posted good disciples lists recently. At least, not that I've seen.
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: Jonesy on June 08, 2014, 08:02:47 PM
You actually think a lot of people will try hand control after Josiah?
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: Redoubter on June 08, 2014, 08:20:48 PM
Yeah, for whatever reason people haven't posted good disciples lists recently. At least, not that I've seen.

They are either saving them for Nats trying to be sneaky (not sure how you can be sneaky with a deck like that...), or they aren't going to be as big as we thought.  I think they will be played a lot and probably place very high.

You actually think a lot of people will try hand control after Josiah?

A deck type that is annoying to others, fun to play with, not well countered in the meta, and very powerful otherwise...

Yep, I think that, too.
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: AJ on June 08, 2014, 08:37:44 PM
IMO a well built defense heavy deck can steamroll most meta decks.
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: Minion of Jesus on June 08, 2014, 09:45:22 PM
IMO a well built defense heavy deck can steamroll most meta decks.

That defines my favorite deck ever.
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: jbeers285 on June 08, 2014, 10:10:14 PM
IMO a well built defense heavy deck can steamroll most meta decks.

This was kind of true 2 years ago. Defensive heavy is yet to place top 3 though.  Looking at this year though top level players that I've seen lately have switched to balanced decks with a slight pull towards offense. This gives the defensive ability to crush the tiny offenses in defensive heavy and stand up to some balanced offenses.  Personally I think the game is in the best place I've seen it since I hit the circuit in early season 2012.   

Right now it's not all about speed, yes speed contributes to good deks but I think player ability, understanding of the game, ability to read what an opponent wants to do/play and playing mistake free will be what elevates top players this year.  I believe the meta right now allows for more options of decks then the 4 listed by westy.  I love were redemption type 1-2p is right now.
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: Master KChief on June 08, 2014, 11:03:51 PM
Reading is virtually non-existent in this game due to the lack of a cost system that allows a player to hedge against plays.
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: everytribe on June 08, 2014, 11:13:12 PM
I agree with jbeers285.

An interesting thing happened at the MN State tournament this year. Alot of timed out games. Thats never happened before in over 10 years of hosting tournaments
- 11 out of the 14 type 1 - 2 players were involved in in a timed out game.
- The winner had 3 timed out wins
- every round had at least one timed out game.

I did not play so I checked in all the decks and their were alot more balanced decks. Nationals should be interesting. I guess thats what happens when type 2 players play type 1.
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: jbeers285 on June 09, 2014, 01:03:39 AM
Reading is virtually non-existent in this game due to the lack of a cost system that allows a player to hedge against plays.


Totally disagree, I've read players many times in games. Good reads had lead to me using lesser blocks due to figuring out what card my opponent intended to play allowing me to save the better block for later and same with rescues.  I'd say one of the strongest parts of my play is reading my opponent.  There are so many little things people don't realize they do as tells.
Title: Re: Top decks?
Post by: Master KChief on June 09, 2014, 01:22:31 AM
Reading is virtually non-existent in this game due to the lack of a cost system that allows a player to hedge against plays.


Totally disagree, I've read players many times in games. Good reads had lead to me using lesser blocks due to figuring out what card my opponent intended to play allowing me to save the better block for later and same with rescues.

By all means, feel free to use an example. But no, the lack of a cost system severely hinders getting good reads on what an opponent has in hand and actually ending up profitable.
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