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Title: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: DaClock on August 18, 2008, 02:12:55 PM
It seems that these forums are chocked full of people posting their decks and there isn't a lot of time before the thread that you started ends up on page 2 or 18 and doesn't get read by anybody else. I'm not sure how much it would help, but maybe we could split this section into a couple of sections.

1: Tournament Winning Decks
2: T1 Sample Decks/Advice
3: T2 Sample Decks/Advice
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Alex-CB on August 18, 2008, 02:14:26 PM
/agree
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: DaClock on August 18, 2008, 02:17:34 PM
Another issue that may just be me is that people have really generic titles like "Blue/Green deck, Plz Advise" or "Tournament Winner." It is hard to figure out which Green/Blue thread I was looking at when I come back again. Maybe it would be better if people gave short 1-2 word names to their deck so that it wasn't the same thread name as everybody else with a similar deck type.

Another idea that I had was that instead of the 3 sections I suggested you could just do 2.

1: Sample Decks/Ideas
2: Real Decks/Advise

The sample decks would be things like Tim's National winning deck, BrianGabe's enhancementless deck. The other section would be for players looking to get advice to improve their deck.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Lozo777 on August 18, 2008, 02:19:57 PM
i agree with both.

And if this doesn't happen then just delete your first thread about your first deck before you make a new thread about your new deck.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Alex-CB on August 18, 2008, 02:21:20 PM
i agree with both.

And if this doesn't happen then just delete your first thread about your first deck before you make a new thread about your new deck.
That's what I try to do but sometimes I just don't wanna look page by page for my last deck I posted...
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: DaClock on August 18, 2008, 02:23:55 PM
Deleting older threads isn't what the point of this is. Having older threads is useful because people can look back at older ideas to make a creative deck even if those ideas aren't on the front page.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Alex-CB on August 18, 2008, 02:26:30 PM
I know, I was just replying to what Lozo said.
I'm all about the sub-sectioning of Deck Design, since like you, I have also noticed these things.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: 777Godspeed on August 18, 2008, 03:07:54 PM
Dividing the Deck Design section into sub-sections would be a great start to help reduce clutter and keep the areas more focused. As the boards are always having new members/players joining, older decks should be left as newer members/players might like to see them and get ideas from them.


Godspeed,
MIke
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on August 18, 2008, 04:37:48 PM
+1 I totaly agree ben.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: The Schaef on August 18, 2008, 07:59:18 PM
Maybe it's time to separate deck design into its own supertopic, with Ideas/Advice/Tournament-Winning or similar into subtopics?

Submit your ideas.  I've never been shy about rearranging the boards if I think it will be better organized and feel less "cluttered", so I'm just going to open the floor and let people post without comment from me, and see what ideas end up making the most sense when/if I finally decide to split it (probably end-of-week).
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on August 18, 2008, 08:08:50 PM
I like that idea alot. That way people looking for stratagies and other stuff can use this while deck design has its own lil place with all nice anti clutter stuffs.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: The Schaef on August 18, 2008, 08:10:01 PM
And don't forget that tournament winners are welcome to post their decks on Holder's Heroes as well, if they're just looking to share and not to tweak.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: DaClock on August 18, 2008, 09:28:33 PM
Hmm, I would like the following.

Card Play
Sample/Tournament Decks - Card Strategies/Great Plays - Deck Advice - New Card Ideas - Game Play Variations - T2 Only (this is an all-encompassing section for T2)

Card Strategies/Great Plays could be morphed currently because they are basically the same thing.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: 777Godspeed on August 18, 2008, 09:47:14 PM
Here are couple ideas I would like to see. It is similar to what Ben has in mind, but I think Sample Decks and Deck Advice can be a single sub-section. Sample decks are normally in the "can be overhauled" (i.e. - Deck Advice) arena while Tounament decks tend to be a little more stable and are modified with tweaks instead of overhauls. It is possible that Sample Decks and Deck Advice could have a sub-sections of their own and standalone, so here are 2 ways I could see it.

Card Play
Tournament Decks - Type 2 Only - Card Strategies/Great Plays - Sample Decks/Deck Advice - New Card Ideas - Game Play Variations

OR

Card Play
Tournament Decks - Type 2 Only - Card Strategies/Great Plays - Sample Decks - Deck Advice - New Card Ideas - Game Play Variations

Godspeed,
Mike
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: The Schaef on August 21, 2008, 06:36:26 PM
:bump:

More comments or I'm just gonna do whatever I feel like.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 21, 2008, 06:42:10 PM
Seperate Deck design into T1 lists, t2 lists, and Deck Concepts.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Master_Chi on August 21, 2008, 07:57:20 PM
i agree with both.

And if this doesn't happen then just delete your first thread about your first deck before you make a new thread about your new deck.
That's what I try to do but sometimes I just don't wanna look page by page for my last deck I posted...

Take wk4c's advice and USE THE SEARCH BUTTON!!!!!

But I agree, it would be better for the split to be between Deck Advice and Deck Concepts.......

You might even split those into T1 and T2.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Alex-CB on August 22, 2008, 01:46:37 PM
My thoughts:

T1 and T2 and Deck Concepts and Deck Advice.

In T1 people post T1 tournament winning decks.
In T2 people post any T2 Deck.
Deck Concepts should be for people who are unsure of what they want to do.
Deck Advice should be for people who just want advice on how to tweak their decks.

Just my Ideas.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: DaClock on August 22, 2008, 02:00:36 PM
I think that "Deck Design" is too broad to be a category of its own. Deck Design can include so many different things. Discussion about "necessary" cards for any deck, tournament-decks, ratio discussion, etc.

I like Deck Advice, Sample Decks (tournament-winners and arch-types), T2 discussion. There  aren't many T2 threads and I think it could have its own section for a while before it gets too cluttered. I'm not sure where these threads put threads like ratios, but maybe those could go under the Mega-Category of Deck Design with the sub-categories of Deck Advice, Sample Decks, and T2 Only.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Alex-CB on August 22, 2008, 02:02:15 PM
I think that "Deck Design" is too broad to be a category of its own. Deck Design can include so many different things. Discussion about "necessary" cards for any deck, tournament-decks, ratio discussion, etc.

I like Deck Advice, Sample Decks (tournament-winners and arch-types), T2 discussion. There  aren't many T2 threads and I think it could have its own section for a while before it gets too cluttered. I'm not sure where these threads put threads like ratios, but maybe those could go under the Mega-Category of Deck Design with the sub-categories of Deck Advice, Sample Decks, and T2 Only.

Now that I think about it, I agree with you.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: DaClock on August 22, 2008, 02:04:59 PM
Haha, I realize now that our posts are very similar. Great minds think alike.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Alex-CB on August 22, 2008, 02:07:27 PM
Haha, I realize now that our posts are very similar. Great minds think alike.

Lol. If this were Civ. Revolutions, my mind could settle in a city!
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 22, 2008, 02:16:12 PM
I like the idea of...

Deck concepts/Ideas. *for incomplete decks and/or strategies*
T1 deck designs.
T2 deck designs.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on August 22, 2008, 02:58:57 PM
I would prefer

Tournament winning decks
Deck Advice
Concept decks
Deck stratagy
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Sean on August 22, 2008, 03:16:47 PM
Deck advice and concept decks are the same to me because both are asking for suggestions and thoughts on how they will work and how to make them better.

I would say two sections:
Tournament Decks and Commentary
Deck Advice

Sean
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Master_Chi on August 22, 2008, 03:43:25 PM
I would prefer

Tournament winning decks
Deck Advice
Concept decks
Deck stratagy
Deck advice and concept decks are the same to me because both are asking for suggestions and thoughts on how they will work and how to make them better.

I would say two sections:
Tournament Decks and Commentary
Deck Advice

Sean

 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 22, 2008, 04:03:05 PM
I still say it should be split into Ideas/concepts, t1, and t2. Why? So many people don't label WHICH type of deck they built.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: DaClock on August 22, 2008, 05:37:08 PM
Here's my main beef. Right now "Deck Design" can have too many things. It doesn't seem right to me when people post just an offense, just a defense, an idea, etc. However, it fits under the broad category of "Deck Design."

The people that want to post in generalizations and things so that they don't reveal their whole strategy/deck should have a place to discuss these things. Deck Strategy is a good place for that.

The people that want to post their entire decks so they can get complete advice and not just speculative advice can post their decks in Deck Advice.

The people that want to post their decks that are a brand new idea (Gabe's Zebulun 0 enhancement deck) and decks that win tournaments (Tim's national deck) can go into Sample Decks.

OR!!!
Deck Design
Strategies, Advice, Samples
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: EmJayBee83 on August 22, 2008, 08:39:59 PM
Since I like to keep all my Karazy and "how-did-I-ever-lose-to-that-there's-no-way-that-will-ever-work" decks in one place, I would also create a section solely for Kopp and Kopp-Inspired decks.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on August 22, 2008, 08:44:57 PM
Just because when I say I use something, I don't count, ever.


P.s. I am so proud, I would like to thank ADHD, weirdness, and my mom for inspiring me to by myself...before she knew how weird I would turn out.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 22, 2008, 09:34:34 PM
Yeah, Koppe decks ftw.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: The Schaef on September 05, 2008, 07:09:49 AM
just a :bump: to let you know this hasn't fallen off my radar.  I'll be filling out a new Deck Design forum shortly.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: The Schaef on September 06, 2008, 12:41:08 PM
I stickied this to use as a base camp for getting this board cleaned out.

Original posters of these various threads, you will not have the power to move them to other sections, but what you can do is tag your titles with T1 or T2, and COMPLETE! if it needs to move the Completed section.

There's over 500 posts on this board and while I can click through and move them around, it will go much quicker if I don't have to examine every post for type and completeness.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Sean on September 06, 2008, 01:36:36 PM
I edited the topics of all of my posts to include which section they belong.

Sean
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 06, 2008, 01:47:24 PM
Easiest way to go through and find yours is simply reorganize the forum by who started it, and find the group of your posts.
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Deck Metrics on March 01, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Just an idea, what if you called this section of the forum "The Deck Doctor"?
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Master KChief on March 01, 2010, 09:35:38 PM
whoa, necropost of the century. you probably hold the record...1 1/2 years since the last post. congrats. :)
Title: Re: Deck Design Getting Cluttered?
Post by: Professoralstad on March 01, 2010, 10:50:09 PM
Idk...I don't think it should count being that this thread is stickied...
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