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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Complete Decks => Topic started by: Nermon on February 14, 2011, 08:58:20 PM
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this deck won fist place at districts of this tourney http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24891.0
Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
Acts 11:18 Lost Soul (N.T. only)
II Samuel 23:6
Ezekiel 34:6
Luke 19:10
Three liner lost souls
I Corinthians 1:27
Jeremiah 7:18
Lamb Dominants: 5
Angel of the Lord
Guardian of Your souls
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Harvest Time
Reaper Dominants: 3
Burial
Christian Martyr
Falling Away
Artifacts: 1
Three Nails
Curses: 2
Given Over to Egypt
Unknown Nation
Fortresses: 2
Jerusalem Tower
Wall of Protection
Multi-colored Sites: 1
The Ends of the Earth
Silver Heroes: 8
Angel at Shur
Eli
Arianna
Captain of the Host
Gabriel (Warriors)
Kira
Angel of Might
Micheal (Angel Wars)
Silver Hero Enhancements: 7
Gathering of Angels
Help from Heaven
Striking Herod
Protection of Angels
Michael's Sword
Birth Foretold
Shadow of Death
Sliver/Green Enhancements: 1
Wickedness Removed
Multi-Colored Enhancements: 2
Preaching the Truth
Pillar of Fire
Gold Evil Characters:
Emperor Claudius
Queen Tahpenes
The Amalekites' Slave
King Shishak
Panic Demon
Crimson Evil Characters: 1
Leviathan
Gold Evil Enhancements:9
Rizpah's Sackcloth
Outburst of Anger
Sorrow of Mary
Temptation
Egyptian Horses
Lahmi's Spear
Denial of Christ
Mask of Fear
Den of Robbers
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 2
Lying Unto God
Torment
I added a Chariot of Fire the next day and took out Eli
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Angel of the Harvest (RA)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 8 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Discard the top card of opponent's deck. If it is a Lost Soul, put it in play instead. If it is a good card, add it to opponent's hand instead and you may draw a card. • Play As: Discard the top card of opponent's deck. If it is a Lost Soul, place it in play instead. If it is a good card, place it to opponent's hand instead and you may draw a card. • Identifiers: Generic NT Male Angel • Verse: Matthew 13:39 • Availability: Rock of Ages booster packs (None)
Wickedness Removed+Wash Basin+Discard top card is a good play
no beheaded?
Beheaded (Di)
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Gold • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: Territory • Special Ability: Discard a male human Hero, or a captured Hero, or the top card of opponent's deck. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Mark 6:28-29 • Availability: Disciples booster packs ()
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yeah congrats on winning with this deck stupid michael :-[ :-[ :-[
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Did you have any trouble drawing evil characters? Seems like a Huge Egyptian could really help this deck.
Overall, I must say this deck does not look like one that could win a tournament. On that same note, congrats for doing so with it.
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No "The Strong Angel"? No "Destruction of Nehustan"? I think I'd try to fit those in there at some point.
Congrats on winning the tourney! That's always a great feeling :)
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I am really confused as to what the rainbow GEs are for; Preaching the Truth, w/ Angels ???
CBN on Michael. (AW has a Revelation reference).
Your defense doesn't seem to be powerful enough to sustain long enough for your offense.
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It says human NT...
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Grab an opponents NT with gathering?
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i had removed a lot of cards on friday night because it was unrealible and was in the 70's with cards
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I'm baffled as to how this won a tournament. It's an awful deck, so you must be a really good player.
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With Rob and CG25 there.
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I'm baffled as to how this won a tournament. It's an awful deck, so you must be a really good player.
That's really mean... but then I realized that makes your compliment better. Hhaha
I'd balance out the evil characters with evil enhancements a little more... but overall seems decent.
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I'm baffled as to how this won a tournament. It's an awful deck, so you must be a really good player.
That's a bit harsh. I don't think it's that bad. Sure there's been a lot of good suggestions of changes, but the basic deck is solid. It's just not outstanding yet.
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I'm baffled as to how this won a tournament. It's an awful deck, so you must be a really good player.
How about we uplift & encourage our brothers rather than be quick to shoot down his new district win.
Congrants on your recent win. Would you mind checking out www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com (http://www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com) and share with us your tournament experience. Or can you direct me to your host so I can talk with him?
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I'm baffled as to how this won a tournament. It's an awful deck, so you must be a really good player.
I'm going to have to agree. This deck must have won on a combination of the player being really good and the meta not expecting silver not named Captain or TSA. Congrats either way, I just don't see how it happened.
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it happened by there being a bunch of new players with me and john m as the 2 top contenders i beat john round 2 faced this round 3 and got a cruddy defense draw ok.
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I'm baffled as to how this won a tournament. It's an awful deck, so you must be a really good player.
I'm going to have to agree. This deck must have won on a combination of the player being really good and the meta not expecting silver not named Captain or TSA. Congrats either way, I just don't see how it happened.
This was along the lines of my first thoughts when I saw the deck.
In theory Silver is a very fun brigade right now. But to me it seems like the deck was constructed out of a box of whatever the player happened to have laying around, it hasn't been meticulusly constructed and tested making changes here and there until its the best it can be.
Case and Point - Preaching the Truth, when he doesn't have a single character that it can be used on.
Case and Point # 2 - Only 5 EC's, without any real chemistry between them in a 56 card deck.
Case and Point # 3 - No TSA, DoN, etc, etc.
All that said, I think the deck is good for what it is, and could be a very fun deck if the suggestions in the thread are taken (adding in TSA, etc) but I don't expect to see it on top of the leaderboards come regionals and nationals if it remains in this form.
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I'm baffled as to how this won a tournament. It's an awful deck, so you must be a really good player.
How about we uplift & encourage our brothers rather than be quick to shoot down his new district win.
Congrants on your recent win. Would you mind checking out www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com (http://www.thekingdomcolumn.webs.com) and share with us your tournament experience. Or can you direct me to your host so I can talk with him?
I am one of the hosts as are two other people
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so heres the thing if you don't have a nice thing to say about this don't talk ever. I am a magic player at heart and one that doesn't build decks people expect and that is what i will do in every tcg
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Guys,
He's a fairly new player, working on building his deck. (Remember what that was like, or was it so long ago that you've forgotten?)
You should be offering suggestions, NOT throwing attacks.
ESPECIALLY to a new "convert" from Magic. If you criticize him too much, you'll drive him away - and we all lose out.
Welcome him, and HELP him!
Just my .02
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Perhaps some people are just jealous that you won a district and they didn't. Let's just say everyone has space to learn, grow, and improve as well as their decks. No one has come to Christ-like perfection & completeness. Even myself, I have areas in my life as well my decks where I can improve. But that shouldn't give others the chance to tear down and bash others when we really ought to be uplifting and encouraging the accomplishment for those that achieved it in the first place.
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I am glad he won with silver. He's only missing one of the big 4 (The Strong Angel). The beauty of silver is that you almost always draw one of the big 4 first turn. They all bring about goodness for your offense. I could very easily see him winning games because he drew Cap or Gabe or Mike early.
I agree that the bashing is completely unneeded. Minuses for those who participated.
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You are all smarter than that. Did anyone even read the second sentence of my post? I'm sorry, but the deck as posted is just objectively bad, even to the point of having a card that does nothing.
If you read one more sentence (takes a few seconds, I know you have it in you), you'll see that my point in emphasizing how bad the deck is was to emphasize how good the player is. Anyone can build a better deck with a few months' experience under his belt, but being a good player is a much more difficult, much better situation.
Long story short, that was a compliment.
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Seriously. Both Pol and myself made it a point to compliment the player's skill for winning with a subpar deck.
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I didn't post it but I thought pretty much the same thing that Pol said. I didn't post it because I assumed it would be taken the wrong way. Stating that the deck has lots of room for improvement is no diss to the creator. I think it's extremely impressive that a new (to Redemption) player has the skill to pilot that deck to a tournament win. If this guy sticks with Redemption and fine tunes his deck building skillz to match his playing skillz he'll be placing at big tournaments. Who knows, maybe even win Nationals. ;)
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agreed he did beat me lol ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah it needs maybe 5 cards changed and then you have an awesome deck. BTW Remove Preaching for TSA and your deck is better then.
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I dont feel TSA or CotH are as good in todays overal meta with all the CBP EE running around like
Disbelieving Sadducees (Di)
Imprisoned (Di)
Tenants Kill the Son (Di)
Herod Agrippa II (TP)
Herod's Treachery (TP)
Image of Jealousy (TP)
and then all the CBN banding
just seems like CotH just doesnt get the job done now a days...
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Online meta is diffrent than RL Clift. His meta may not have those cards running around.
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Even so, would you really say TSA isn't as good as Kira, Eli, or Angel of Might?
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1) Great job at winning distric.
2) An option that people might have forgotten is that the playgroup there weren't expecting his deck. When I first played T2, I won first not because my awesome deck building skills (which I have none of) but because the T2ers weren't expecting a shuffle/capture deck (and how mideval Nebby can be :) ).
Again, congrats on your win.
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This deck is good, I think we should build others up not break them down. :)
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Don't necropost, please. It clogs up the forums with old stuff.
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I strongly disagree with that. Please necropost all day long (as long as you have something worth saying). Why is there a prejudice toward people and ideas that have been active in the last 2 days?
If he wants to contribute to the conversation in this thread would you seriously want him to start a whole new thread and then link to this one? Thats seems less efficient and more clutter.
Or do you mean that he just shouldn't comment period? Sorry that you're a new member and missed out on this and many others but since you weren't hear to say something at the time, we don't care what you have to say so shut up. Why don't we just delete all threads after a week or two since we don't want anyone commenting on them ever?
P.S. This is not personal against you Minion, and I'm not upset with you. As I understand it you were just relaying board policy but it is a policy I have found increasingly aggravating. It discriminates against new people and people that have busy lives and can't get on here every day or week.
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I strongly disagree with that. Please necropost all day long (as long as you have something worth saying). Why is there a prejudice toward people and ideas that have been active in the last 2 days?
If he wants to contribute to the conversation in this thread would you seriously want him to start a whole new thread and then link to this one? Thats seems less efficient and more clutter.
Or do you mean that he just shouldn't comment period? Sorry that you're a new member and missed out on this and many others but since you weren't hear to say something at the time, we don't care what you have to say so shut up. Why don't we just delete all threads after a week or two since we don't want anyone commenting on them ever?
P.S. This is not personal against you Minion, and I'm not upset with you. As I understand it you were just relaying board policy but it is a policy I have found increasingly aggravating. It discriminates against new people and people that have busy lives and can't get on here every day or week.
Completely agree with this. +1
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I understand what you mean. I don't have anything against more recent posts, or things that are interesting. But nothing was really contributed to the conversation, and it's not from last week, but 3 years ago.
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Yeah, I get that. Personally I wouldn't have made that comment and its not particularly deep or insightful or new but so what? I think joeychips is a new member and do we really want to discourage a new member from contributing?
Personal example here: I just saw a couple threads in the gameplay variations topic for the first time that I found interesting and I thought I could add something meaningful to the idea but they are from 9+ months ago. The likely accusation of necroposting discourages me from bothering to post those ideas and what could have led to a better gameplay variation and sparked other peoples creativity now won't.
In other words, there are plenty of peoples posts that I personally find to have no value but I'm fine with that because I don't want them to shut up entirely and also miss out on their good ideas. People also don't learn how to improve their communication without practice which necessarily includes some pointless chatter and maybe it isn't pointless to someone else. Maybe joeychips didn't need to make that comment but maybe it was encouraging to someone that needed it and that is contribution enough, imo.
As a side point, the gameplay variations section only had 17 threads in the last year and this topic (complete decks) only had 2 threads active in the past 7 months. I find it hard to say it is clogging up the forum when there has been almost no activity. In fact I'd say it is more ressurecting an area of the boards that is dead rather than necroposting. Now if we were talking the ruling section that gets more activity and should be kept cleaned up more to help find rulings then thats different.
P.S. This is obviously not just about this post or thread for me. I have been thinking this for a long time but just finally said something.
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I get it. You make some good points. However, everyone might be too set in their ways to change now.