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Other Cactus Games => Cactus Board Games => Topic started by: ACe on January 22, 2010, 02:35:45 PM
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Was Dragon Raid a game made by cactus? and has any one played it?
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I don't believe it was a Cactus game. And the only way to attach more stigma to D&D than it already has is to make a Christian version.
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So is it not recomended or is there any other people out there that have played it?
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well if it has a bible theme to it and like redemption have fun and fellowship then yes i would recommend it, but i wouldn't know about it cause i'v never played it before but i would if i could
some person put it on the "satanic games" list which i don't believe they could do such a thing to a christian game
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Just cuz a game says it is christian doesn't MAKE it christian nor does calling a game christian make it GOOD(EG Bibleopoly).
I have not played it BUT I know there are a few who have.
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Just play DD, have a Christian DM, and don't let anyone play Evil. Simple as that.
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Just play DD, have a Christian DM, and don't let anyone play Evil. Simple as that.
Or mages.
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Try Googleing Dragon Raid. I visited their website a while back and the game reminded me a lot of D&D. just with different packaging. Best advice is to check 3 Lions Gaming.com-he lists reviews on various games.
Sincerely, Sadness
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I checked three lions but there was no review.
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sadness, try covenantgames.com
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not really a review. I just cant believe that no one has played it. or can tell me more then the web sites have.
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Because of its strong resemblance to D&D I would assume most parents stay away from it, just in case.
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i used to play it a long time ago when i was younger, actually a very solid game. you memorize and quote a lot of scripture to gain benefits, so thats a plus.
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Because of its strong resemblance to D&D I would assume most parents stay away from it, just in case.
I'm a parent and I have it. 8) I like the idea behind the game. Yes, it can be compared to D&D, as Redemption can be compared to the "other" card game, but it is not D&D. There is much scripture memorization and quoting in the game. Many Biblical principles are laid out and taught in the game much like they are to be used in real life. We have played it very little due to time and my kids being a bit young for it. (that reminds me, I need to dig the game out since the kids are older) I did quite a bit of research on the game before and after purchasing it. It has many expansions for it and has been used a discipleship training tool also. Please don't dismiss the opportunity to play this game if you are interested. The benefits are gonna outweigh some of the preceived negativity of being a D&D clone game. Just think of it kinda like Redemption and the "other" card game out there. They get compared, but they are not the same.
Godspeed,
Mike
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well i teach Jr High boys 7th 8th grade and i was looking for something hands on they can do. also what are the expansions? and where can you get them
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I think this Dragon Raid link (http://www.dragonraid.net/home) should help you out.
Godspeed,
Mike
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Thanks alot Mike you were the post i have been waiting for. So its not something you would use to teach sunday school with is it?
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i read a awsome review of it i say it would be a good game
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I believe it could be used to teach Sunday School class with, but you would need a dedicated group of X persons for X amount of time to complete each adventure. Example - if an adventure requires approx. 16 hrs. to complete you would need 10 weeks. Week 1 getting players started/set-up with characters. Week 2 - 9 (averaging 2 hrs play each Sunday) Adventure time. Week 10 wrap things up (recap Biblical principles learned and how to apply them in everyday situations, maybe set-up the next adventure). The Dragon Raid website and all the links provide a plethora of info. Let me know how it goes.
Godspeed,
Mike
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Yeah i will i still have 4 or 5 weeks to finish up the Tabernacle study. was thinking about taking the boys the the holy land in Urika? AK. I hear they have a Life size Tabernacle. I wanted to know if it could be sunday school material and thank you for the answers.
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I have played DragonRaid for years as well as lead DragonRaid groups. It is NOT a game. It is a discipleship program that is designed similiar to Role Playing Games. Years ago, I led a small DragonRaid group. Out of all the programs I led as the youth minister, the DragonRaid group showed the most spiritual growth. If handled correctly, it is an EXCELLENT discipleship tool.
DragonRaid was published in 1984 by Adventure Learning Systems Inc. Designed by dork Wulf, a Christian counselor who has written books on the dynamics of small groups. DragonRaid was originally maligned by the hobby gaming industry for being a Christianized RPG, and maligned by various Christian groups whose only excuse was ignorance of the subject matter. Basically, having never played an RPG or even learned about what they are, these Christian groups were outspoken against DragonRaid.
Gameplay-wise, DragonRaid is a scaled down RPG. Very simplistic when compared to other RPGS. It was designed as a discipleship program, not as a game for hobby enthusiasts. Today it is published by Adventures For Christ, a small group of part time fans from back in the day. You may have even met some of them at Redemption tournaments.
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DragonRaid is not the only faith based RPG. Holy Lands is published by Faith Quest Games. Spiritual Warfare is published by Golgotha Games. Green Ronin Publishing even makes a book called Testament. It's an RPG based on the D&D open license.
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DragonRaid is not the only faith based RPG. Holy Lands is published by Faith Quest Games. Spiritual Warfare is published by Golgotha Games. Green Ronin Publishing even makes a book called Testament. It's an RPG based on the D&D open license.
I didn't care for Holy Lands. I never actually got a group together though... ...
Dragon Raid sounds interesting though.
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yeah im starting my dragon raid in 2 sundays after we finish the tabernacle. my jr high boys are getting really excited about it.
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yeah im starting my dragon raid in 2 sundays after we finish the tabernacle. my jr high boys are getting really excited about it.
lemme know how it goes. I can't see myself getting a group together any time soon, but once I'm an adult I would be up for doing the same sort of thing, but maybe not in Sunday school. an awesome way to have a fun ministry.
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I really like DragonRaid. I have had great success leading 4 or 5 different DragonRaid groups over the years. The groups ranged in age from about 3rd grade to 12th grade. It is great seeing players memorize scripture so they can "level up" their Sword of the Spirit rating. I did not use it for Sunday School, but I did use it for the Wednesday night group. The kids loved it, the parents were super impressed with how much Bible memorization happened, and the pastor appreciated that as well.
The included materials are not super high-quality (some things are line drawn and not colored, there are no figures but just flat cutouts to represent the raiders and the creatures, etc.). The last time we played, I brought some Knights and Vikings and Orcs and a Troll and a Giant and a Dragon from Heroscape so we could use those pieces for Dragonraid. The kids liked that a lot better than the little cardboard pieces, but you can certainly play with cardboard.
There are a lot of stats to calculate, and that is a never-ending job if your players keep memorizing a lot of scripture like my players did. To simplify things a bit, I removed most of the weapons from the list, and just used the sword. For ranged attacks, I invented a "sword blast" from the sword of the Spirit that does half-damage and can only be used every other turn. If you have a laptop, you can make a spreadsheet with values and equations for the various stats, and your laptop can do all the calculations for you. The next time I run a Dragonraid group, I hope to have a laptop and do just that.
The adventures themselves are fun, yet great for training. Many of the old players remember some of the crazy things that happened to them during the adventures. Hopefully, they remember some of the lessons they learned, too.
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yeah i took over the sunday school class back in january and the used these church approved lesson books and it had no involvement with the students. the boys seem to be more hands on and when i started this tabernacle i made the room look like the tabernacle and we have been doing a 12 week study. and they are taking a test over everything we learned and the one who get the most answers get card from redemption that have to do with the tabernacle.